lzma compression no worky?

rsegal · 14th January 2005, 18:08

I've got an installer I've been making recently that uses lzma compression. Only recently every time I try to make said installer I get the following result from makensis trying to build the script...

Error: deflateToFile: deflate() failed(-4 input/output error) Error - aborting creation process

Wha happen?

rsegal · 17th January 2005, 19:38

No thoughts? Anyone? I'm curious because this problem is fairly important for me.

Anders · 17th January 2005, 22:01

out of space on the drive that contains the temp dir?

rsegal · 18th January 2005, 13:48

Doubt it but not a bad guess. I've got about 2GB worth of free space on the drive I'm using.

kichik · 18th January 2005, 17:10

There was a problem with clzma.cpp that caused it to return LZMA_IO_ERROR (the error you're seeing) instead of LZMA_THREAD_ERROR. I've attached the new fixed version. If you have a compiler, please recompile with it and let me know if the error is still LZMA_IO_ERROR.

Now, time for some details. Which version of NSIS are you using? Have you compiled makensis.exe on your own? Does it happen only with that specific installer or with others too? Do you get a similar error with bzip2 or zlib compression?

rsegal · 18th January 2005, 20:31

Compiled it. Tried it. Works. You're the King kichik. In responses to your questions...

-The version I'm using is daily snapshot 2.04 build 22. I believe I installed it on January 6th.

-Never compile makensis except for testing the file you attached. I usually just run the daily snapshot installer.

-I haven't tried many other installers with it. I don't have any other installers I can test with. The only minor tests I've done is to eliminate all the files except for license files to be included in the installer so there's only script code and that works fine.

-The problem only occurs with lzma. bzip2 and zlib seem to work fine, they've never failed for me so I've always been happy to have them as alternatives.

Once again kichik thanks very much! If you need any more details I am at your disposal.

kichik · 20th January 2005, 18:20

Well... Hmm... It wasn't supposed to fix it. Recompiling probably just hid the problem. Does the problem still go away if you recompile with the old version of clzma.cpp? You can test it with the examples that come with NSIS. makensis.nsi uses lzma too and contains more than one file. It should be a good example.

BTW, Build 22 is 2.04

kichik · 20th January 2005, 19:31

Heh, seems I've been updating build numbers for nothing. It's not even used if it's not the same major, minor and revision version. It will be zero for 2.05

rsegal · 21st January 2005, 18:26

Quote:

Originally posted by kichik
Well... Hmm... It wasn't supposed to fix it. Recompiling probably just hid the problem. Does the problem still go away if you recompile with the old version of clzma.cpp? You can test it with the examples that come with NSIS. makensis.nsi uses lzma too and contains more than one file. It should be a good example.

BTW, Build 22 is 2.04

Conveniently rebuilding using the non modified clzma.cpp does work as well.

kichik · 21st January 2005, 19:07

That's weird... Does the original makensis.exe work now too?

rsegal · 21st January 2005, 21:13

It appears to be working off and on now with the original now. I don't know what to say. So far I've had more luck using the rebuilt source.

kichik · 21st January 2005, 21:36

Maybe there really is an IO error. Does it happen on other computers?

rsegal · 21st January 2005, 22:38

I'll be trying that next week, we'll see. Thanks for all your help kichik.

rsegal · 27th January 2005, 18:14

Seems to be working fine on other machines. Could be the error was valid. Anyways I'm happy I've got some alternatives if anything goes wrong again. Thanks for your help kichik.

kichik · 27th January 2005, 19:05

If it doesn't happen on other machines, it might be the memory - lzma uses a lot of it. Try testing your memory with memtest86.

rsegal · 2nd February 2005, 02:22

So I open up my work computer to take a look that everythings working properly and it turns out some of the capacitors on the motherboard are starting to melt. That's the best way I can think of to describe it. There is some sort of substance being emitted from the capacitors.

Anyways after discovering that I switched to a new (and conveniently faster) machine and am back making installers with good old lzma compression. Just like the good times again. I don't think memory was the problem, likely it was some kind of issue with the motherboard.

kichik · 3rd February 2005, 17:52

Right, melted capacitors are a no-go with lzma. I'll have to remember that

Congratulations on your new computer

HGOwen · 5th February 2005, 09:29

The capacitors havent melted.

Theyre cheapo capacitors from Taiwan and use a Water based Electrotyte.

The Electrotyte is incomplete, and thus they release Hydrogen in use. This makes them bulge and eventually pop.

EDIT: Spelling

rsegal · 7th February 2005, 17:11

Thanks for the exaplanation HG, that's pretty much what I saw.

peterob · 8th February 2005, 07:11

Off-topic - dodgy caps

Replace the caps and the board will work perfectly again. I've recovered upwards of 50 boards that way.

The caps that go, in my experience, are usually the 6.3V, 1000 microfarad ones, those that haven't popped will in time.

You've got nothing to lose, anyway.

rsegal · 8th February 2005, 16:15

That's true but I ain't no electrical engineer and the boards not mine, it's my companies. It's a good idea for sure but I don't know if it'll happen. Thanks for the idea though.

14th January 2005, 18:08	#1
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	lzma compression no worky? I've got an installer I've been making recently that uses lzma compression. Only recently every time I try to make said installer I get the following result from makensis trying to build the script... Error: deflateToFile: deflate() failed(-4 input/output error) Error - aborting creation process Wha happen?

17th January 2005, 22:01	#3
Anders Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ${NSISDIR} Posts: 5,449	out of space on the drive that contains the temp dir? IntOp $PostCount $PostCount + 1

20th January 2005, 18:20	#7
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	Well... Hmm... It wasn't supposed to fix it. Recompiling probably just hid the problem. Does the problem still go away if you recompile with the old version of clzma.cpp? You can test it with the examples that come with NSIS. makensis.nsi uses lzma too and contains more than one file. It should be a good example. BTW, Build 22 is 2.04 NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

20th January 2005, 19:31	#8
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	Heh, seems I've been updating build numbers for nothing. It's not even used if it's not the same major, minor and revision version. It will be zero for 2.05 NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

21st January 2005, 19:07	#10
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	That's weird... Does the original makensis.exe work now too? NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

17th January 2005, 19:38	#2
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	No thoughts? Anyone? I'm curious because this problem is fairly important for me.

18th January 2005, 13:48	#4
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Doubt it but not a bad guess. I've got about 2GB worth of free space on the drive I'm using.

18th January 2005, 20:31	#6
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Compiled it. Tried it. Works. You're the King kichik. In responses to your questions... -The version I'm using is daily snapshot 2.04 build 22. I believe I installed it on January 6th. -Never compile makensis except for testing the file you attached. I usually just run the daily snapshot installer. -I haven't tried many other installers with it. I don't have any other installers I can test with. The only minor tests I've done is to eliminate all the files except for license files to be included in the installer so there's only script code and that works fine. -The problem only occurs with lzma. bzip2 and zlib seem to work fine, they've never failed for me so I've always been happy to have them as alternatives. Once again kichik thanks very much! If you need any more details I am at your disposal.

21st January 2005, 21:13	#11
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	It appears to be working off and on now with the original now. I don't know what to say. So far I've had more luck using the rebuilt source.

21st January 2005, 21:36	#12
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	Maybe there really is an IO error. Does it happen on other computers? NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

21st January 2005, 22:38	#13
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	I'll be trying that next week, we'll see. Thanks for all your help kichik.

27th January 2005, 18:14	#14
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Seems to be working fine on other machines. Could be the error was valid. Anyways I'm happy I've got some alternatives if anything goes wrong again. Thanks for your help kichik.

27th January 2005, 19:05	#15
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	If it doesn't happen on other machines, it might be the memory - lzma uses a lot of it. Try testing your memory with memtest86. NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

2nd February 2005, 02:22	#16
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	So I open up my work computer to take a look that everythings working properly and it turns out some of the capacitors on the motherboard are starting to melt. That's the best way I can think of to describe it. There is some sort of substance being emitted from the capacitors. Anyways after discovering that I switched to a new (and conveniently faster) machine and am back making installers with good old lzma compression. Just like the good times again. I don't think memory was the problem, likely it was some kind of issue with the motherboard.

3rd February 2005, 17:52	#17
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	Right, melted capacitors are a no-go with lzma. I'll have to remember that Congratulations on your new computer NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

5th February 2005, 09:29	#18
HGOwen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4	The capacitors havent melted. Theyre cheapo capacitors from Taiwan and use a Water based Electrotyte. The Electrotyte is incomplete, and thus they release Hydrogen in use. This makes them bulge and eventually pop. EDIT: Spelling

7th February 2005, 17:11	#19
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Thanks for the exaplanation HG, that's pretty much what I saw.

8th February 2005, 07:11	#20
peterob Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	Off-topic - dodgy caps Replace the caps and the board will work perfectly again. I've recovered upwards of 50 boards that way. The caps that go, in my experience, are usually the 6.3V, 1000 microfarad ones, those that haven't popped will in time. You've got nothing to lose, anyway.

8th February 2005, 16:15	#21
rsegal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	That's true but I ain't no electrical engineer and the boards not mine, it's my companies. It's a good idea for sure but I don't know if it'll happen. Thanks for the idea though.

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