Computer/Monitor issue

d0rk · 29th March 2005, 20:11

For a while this has been happening but I couldn't figure out what caused it. It seemed that randomly the bottom of my screen (where the sys tray is) would randomly make quick wavey lines that would last for about 30 seconds and then quit. Well now its not random. Whenever I open some programs (Firefox, and IE is what I've noticed so far) it will start happening. I tried degauss and updating to latest drivers for my video card but still happens.

OS: XP Pro SP2
CPU: P4 3.2 w/HT
Video Card: 9800 Pro 128mb
RAM: 1gb Corsair XMS
HD: 120gb Western Digital
Mobo: ASUS P4S800D
Monitor: 20in KDSusa

Any help appreciated.

cyu · 30th March 2005, 02:37

Try turninig down the screen refresh rate and see if it still happens. Oh and try moving things like lights or other emf emitting objects away from the monitor.

PulseDriver · 30th March 2005, 04:16

The amount of bright pixels can also make som monitors go nuts.. or make buzzing noises... however, trying different refresh rates with your graphics adapter should work. If not, try other resolutions.

Print · 30th March 2005, 20:22

Time for a new monitor..

Seriously though, if your monitor is totally messed up, and isn't like a brand new or expensive one, just get a nice new one, they are pretty cheap. Especially CRT.

d0rk · 30th March 2005, 20:31

Only thing close to it is a TV but the monitor was doing it before the TV was there (just wasn't as bad). Happens with PSP 7 too. Also, if I open FF to my 4 homepages two or three of the tabs will happen but one of them doesn't. It is never the same tab either. The monitor is just over a year old. It was about $400. I should still have a warrenty on it...

Print · 30th March 2005, 20:33

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
Only thing close to it is a TV but the monitor was doing it before the TV was there (just wasn't as bad). Happens with PSP 7 too. Also, if I open FF to my 4 homepages two or three of the tabs will happen but one of them doesn't. It is never the same tab either. The monitor is just over a year old. It was about $400. I should still have a warrenty on it...

Warranty! Take that shit back right now! WHo cares if it is just a little messed, if it's under warranty, let the manufact worry about it

d0rk · 30th March 2005, 20:37

It is from a local computer store and Im trying to find my invoice when I bought it. If I can find it im taking it back. If not, I'm fucked? :/

/edit

Found it!

I bought it for $200 and its 1 year and 6 days since I did.

PulseDriver · 31st March 2005, 19:46

Quote:

Originally posted by blueprint_n9ne
Time for a new monitor..

Seriously though, if your monitor is totally messed up, and isn't like a brand new or expensive one, just get a nice new one, they are pretty cheap. Especially CRT.

I still like CRT better... LCD still have wrong colors except the spot on the scree you're looking straight at. And since my desk have room for a CRT (space that can't be used for anything else practial) I'll stick to CRT for a while longer. Since CRT have been around for a while (and CRT can change the amount of pixels pysically on the screen) and have a sharp picture no matter from where you look at (with LCD it's enough to sit right in front of it and look in one of the corner to see a pailed color) the CRT have some stunning tech these days (if you pay at least some to get quality).

If you have space for a CRT monitor, I'll advice you to use it. LCD technology is only good for places that have high electrical disturbances or places where there is need of the space that CRT monitors take up.

I payed quite much to get the screen I have now, but it's 5 years old and is still one of the best I have ever seen (two of my buddies also have the exact same) and the refresh rates at higher resolutions is quite good.

EDIT: I should found the "Long live the CRT-Monitor Foundation"

nwave · 31st March 2005, 21:25

Nice pleading for CRT monitors there, PulseDriver.
I have only one argument: CRT's are not good for eyes. Their functioning principle is unhealthy because they are flashing 50 to 100 times every second (refresh rate). People don't see when the CRT image goes on/off, because human eye can't distinguish so many flashes in such a short time. The eye cannot distinguish them, but the retinae is hit by these on/off cycles... I would buy right now LCD if it has a decent response time (8ms or less) and if it has a decent price

PulseDriver · 31st March 2005, 23:54

Yep, that's why you need a good CRT monitor, recommended 100hz pluss

Print · 1st April 2005, 04:25

Quote:

Originally posted by nwave
Nice pleading for CRT monitors there, PulseDriver.
I have only one argument: CRT's are not good for eyes. Their functioning principle is unhealthy because they are flashing 50 to 100 times every second (refresh rate). People don't see when the CRT image goes on/off, because human eye can't distinguish so many flashes in such a short time. The eye cannot distinguish them, but the retinae is hit by these on/off cycles... I would buy right now LCD if it has a decent response time (8ms or less) and if it has a decent price

I thought the higher the refresh rate, the better for your eyes??
Something about your eyes getting tired or strained if refresh rate (hz) was too low??

Mine is at 75Mhz. Is that good or bad.

nwave · 1st April 2005, 09:41

The higher refresh rate means less time for the eyes to accomodate to the change of the light coming from your monitor. Over one point (70Hz upwards, but some say over 85Hz), your eye is fooled by the monitor: the light switches on/off so fast, that the eye has no time to accomodate. Still, these switches/flshes hurt your eyes, even if you don't feel it. I'm sorry if I can't explain this to good...

This isn't pleading for LCDs instead of CRTs. I was just trying to show that CRTs have problems too.

Print · 1st April 2005, 09:46

Yeah either way it doesn't help when I sit in my room for hours at night with the lights off looking at my monitor playing games or surfing.

I just hate the glare of my lamps off the monitor... but it kills my eyes i'm sure..

Leonhart · 1st April 2005, 10:36

I use a CRT monitor at home, but at work i use a nice TFT monitor, i find that playing games on my CRT at home is better, than my friends TFT at his house.

d0rk · 1st April 2005, 11:00

Went and talked to the place I bought it from and they have ordered a new monitor to replace the one I have

d0rk · 27th April 2005, 13:17

Got the new one two weeks ago, just crapped out. Heard a pop noise, everything turned bright and fuzzy. Restart or degauss didn't do anything, a different old monitor works fine.

Warrior of the Light · 27th April 2005, 14:36

Have you tried the old monitor on another videocard/system too?

If it worked fine there, then you should tripple-check your system before attaching a new monitor.

Too-DAMN-Much · 27th April 2005, 15:57

Quote:

Originally posted by nwave
Nice pleading for CRT monitors there, PulseDriver.
I have only one argument: CRT's are not good for eyes. Their functioning principle is unhealthy because they are flashing 50 to 100 times every second (refresh rate). People don't see when the CRT image goes on/off, because human eye can't distinguish so many flashes in such a short time. The eye cannot distinguish them, but the retinae is hit by these on/off cycles...

does enabling doublescan do away with this? currently @ 75hz

d0rk · 29th April 2005, 08:06

Quote:

Originally posted by WarriorO/TLight
Have you tried the old monitor on another videocard/system too?

If it worked fine there, then you should tripple-check your system before attaching a new monitor.

Old one that I warrentied (sp?) did the same thing on another computer. The monitor that just went out is fucked on another computer too. Im getting tired of KDS monitors.

DuaneJeffers · 29th April 2005, 09:02

Yea, You should go with a quality manufacturer. And with CRTs, that usually means NEC, Viewsonic, and that is about it. You can get a cheap CRT, but that means you will have to trade it in a few months. I was hesitant to get a LCD, but now I have one, I can't live with out it.

/me LOVES my Samsung Syncmaster 213T

-Duane

Phyltre · 30th April 2005, 00:45

I have a tech question. Why do people complain about televisions not being fully HD when computer monitors can easily be configured to work as televisions?

Why don't they just buy computer monitors? Is it purely a size consideration?

29th March 2005, 20:11	#1
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Computer/Monitor issue For a while this has been happening but I couldn't figure out what caused it. It seemed that randomly the bottom of my screen (where the sys tray is) would randomly make quick wavey lines that would last for about 30 seconds and then quit. Well now its not random. Whenever I open some programs (Firefox, and IE is what I've noticed so far) it will start happening. I tried degauss and updating to latest drivers for my video card but still happens. OS: XP Pro SP2 CPU: P4 3.2 w/HT Video Card: 9800 Pro 128mb RAM: 1gb Corsair XMS HD: 120gb Western Digital Mobo: ASUS P4S800D Monitor: 20in KDSusa Any help appreciated. I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

30th March 2005, 04:16	#3
PulseDriver w3 addict (Major Dude) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 1,806	The amount of bright pixels can also make som monitors go nuts.. or make buzzing noises... however, trying different refresh rates with your graphics adapter should work. If not, try other resolutions. 09 F9 11 01 9D 74 E8 5B D8 41 56 C3 63 56 81 C0

30th March 2005, 20:31	#5
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Only thing close to it is a TV but the monitor was doing it before the TV was there (just wasn't as bad). Happens with PSP 7 too. Also, if I open FF to my 4 homepages two or three of the tabs will happen but one of them doesn't. It is never the same tab either. The monitor is just over a year old. It was about $400. I should still have a warrenty on it... I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

30th March 2005, 20:37	#7
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	It is from a local computer store and Im trying to find my invoice when I bought it. If I can find it im taking it back. If not, I'm fucked? :/ /edit Found it! I bought it for $200 and its 1 year and 6 days since I did. I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

31st March 2005, 23:54	#10
PulseDriver w3 addict (Major Dude) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 1,806	Yep, that's why you need a good CRT monitor, recommended 100hz pluss 09 F9 11 01 9D 74 E8 5B D8 41 56 C3 63 56 81 C0

30th March 2005, 02:37	#2
cyu Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 1,617	Try turninig down the screen refresh rate and see if it still happens. Oh and try moving things like lights or other emf emitting objects away from the monitor.

30th March 2005, 20:22	#4
Print Forum King Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,215	Time for a new monitor.. Seriously though, if your monitor is totally messed up, and isn't like a brand new or expensive one, just get a nice new one, they are pretty cheap. Especially CRT.

31st March 2005, 21:25	#9
nwave Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11	Nice pleading for CRT monitors there, PulseDriver. I have only one argument: CRT's are not good for eyes. Their functioning principle is unhealthy because they are flashing 50 to 100 times every second (refresh rate). People don't see when the CRT image goes on/off, because human eye can't distinguish so many flashes in such a short time. The eye cannot distinguish them, but the retinae is hit by these on/off cycles... I would buy right now LCD if it has a decent response time (8ms or less) and if it has a decent price

1st April 2005, 09:41	#12
nwave Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11	The higher refresh rate means less time for the eyes to accomodate to the change of the light coming from your monitor. Over one point (70Hz upwards, but some say over 85Hz), your eye is fooled by the monitor: the light switches on/off so fast, that the eye has no time to accomodate. Still, these switches/flshes hurt your eyes, even if you don't feel it. I'm sorry if I can't explain this to good... This isn't pleading for LCDs instead of CRTs. I was just trying to show that CRTs have problems too.

1st April 2005, 09:46	#13
Print Forum King Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,215	Yeah either way it doesn't help when I sit in my room for hours at night with the lights off looking at my monitor playing games or surfing. I just hate the glare of my lamps off the monitor... but it kills my eyes i'm sure..

1st April 2005, 10:36	#14
Leonhart Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England Posts: 312	I use a CRT monitor at home, but at work i use a nice TFT monitor, i find that playing games on my CRT at home is better, than my friends TFT at his house. "To Be Forgotten Is Worse Than Death"

1st April 2005, 11:00	#15
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Went and talked to the place I bought it from and they have ordered a new monitor to replace the one I have I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

27th April 2005, 13:17	#16
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Got the new one two weeks ago, just crapped out. Heard a pop noise, everything turned bright and fuzzy. Restart or degauss didn't do anything, a different old monitor works fine. I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

27th April 2005, 14:36	#17
Warrior of the Light Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,121	Have you tried the old monitor on another videocard/system too? If it worked fine there, then you should tripple-check your system before attaching a new monitor. Jesus loves you [yes, you] so much, he even died for you so that you will not need to die, but live forever

29th April 2005, 09:02	#20
DuaneJeffers Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 1,776	Yea, You should go with a quality manufacturer. And with CRTs, that usually means NEC, Viewsonic, and that is about it. You can get a cheap CRT, but that means you will have to trade it in a few months. I was hesitant to get a LCD, but now I have one, I can't live with out it. /me LOVES my Samsung Syncmaster 213T -Duane Website Yeah, that's pretty much it. :-\

30th April 2005, 00:45	#21
Phyltre Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,751	I have a tech question. Why do people complain about televisions not being fully HD when computer monitors can easily be configured to work as televisions? Why don't they just buy computer monitors? Is it purely a size consideration?

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