AVS has been made open source!

will · 18th May 2005, 21:42

A sourceforge project is in the process of being created.

If you want to be added to this as a developer (when sf approves the it) please post here with your sourceforge username.

I'm not going to take an active role in this project, I've just been pursuaded by Cody to start it up. Heh.

If you want to start tinkering now, the homepage is here: http://www.nullsoft.com/free/avs/

However, please hold off on making any (big/important) changes until we have some kind of sourceforge-based source control going.

Lots of love,

Will

Boktor · 18th May 2005, 22:04

Hurray!!

S-uper_T-oast · 19th May 2005, 01:40

Wow, time to go find all those posts that said AVS WILL NEVER BECOME OPEN SOURCE and laugh hysterically. This could mean some good things if people can use this well. I might actually start taking the time to learn to use the new features and start AVSing again.

MaTTFURY · 19th May 2005, 02:29

HOOOOOOOORAH!!!!!

Jaak · 19th May 2005, 04:58

W0000T!

...and now?

jheriko · 19th May 2005, 06:54

i will look at this when i finish work today.

stupid real life... so time consuming

EDIT: sf username jheriko

mysterious_w · 19th May 2005, 07:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Yathosho 9 Aug 2004
..and why don't you just let it die

Haha, You was wrong! I predicted this 4, ..5.. 9 months ago!

I is teh winner!

s_kupers · 19th May 2005, 07:30

Well, this was certainly unexpected

.

TomyLobo · 19th May 2005, 07:46

my sf username is tomylobo

Zevensoft · 19th May 2005, 08:10

Ooh yeah!

* pelvic thrusts in the general direction of AVS

sf username zevensoft

times2 · 19th May 2005, 09:55

this is awesome.

my top 5 new feature wishlist:-

non-realtime output
double buffering on overlay while the editor is open
visualisation that runs while the GUI is being accessed
AVS as a plugin in other realtime/ non realtime packages
DV support

thanks boktor for showing me this!
i might even come out of 'retirement'...

T

Jaak · 19th May 2005, 11:32

somebody sticky this

btw... my sf username is 'Jaak-' (yes... the '-' is supposed to be there... basterds usin' MY name!!1one1)

Warrior of the Light · 19th May 2005, 11:34

/grabs his C books

Free beer in the internet café for everyone

But Jaak is right...

A plan is needed to go on from.. or else we will have 30 different and uncompatible versions of vis_avs.dll

Jaak · 19th May 2005, 12:10

you more like need 'C for dark voodoo magicians'

PAK-9 · 19th May 2005, 12:30

We're through the looking glass people...

I thought this day would never come, and now its here *sniff*, its beautiful man, just beautiful.

my sf username is 'pak-9'

and for some reason I can seem to download that avs_src.zip that will linked to.

Jaak · 19th May 2005, 12:34

Quote:

Originally posted by PAK-9
and for some reason I can seem to download that avs_src.zip that will linked to.

i hope its typo

because otherways i shouldnt have uploaded this:
www.oesel.ee/~jaak/avs_src.zip

PAK-9 · 19th May 2005, 12:35

sweet, thanky thanky

duo · 19th May 2005, 13:34

Never thought I would read that

Zen-X · 19th May 2005, 14:30

Sweet, first job; add AVStrans / Glob variables to main dll...

Although will winamp be updated with it (unlikely) or will every pack wanting to use the new AVS have to include the required vis_avs.dll with it? In which case what sort version control will there be?

I know there aren't any answers to these questions, just thinking through text.

Peace

zen-x

[Ishan] · 19th May 2005, 15:24

*jawdrops* whoa. I cant believe this finally happened. Although i'm not so good with programming, i can imagine the possibilities of an Open Source AVS. Hopefully someone from the many talented programmers here would make the one wish we've always been waiting for, Make AVS faster...maybe with hardware acceleration.

^..^ · 19th May 2005, 17:16

i guess we'll have to wait for that a bit longer.
But including some common ape's into AVS itslef seems much more likely to me.

But whatever you want to happen first, my main/only wish would be, that avs stays 'straight'. It'd be awfully bad if we had thousands of different crappy versions. So perhaps/hopefully/PLEASE new winamp-releases could contain the last (finished) open-source-AVS??

(also i'm holding back with my wishes, cause i most probably won't be able to support this project much.

)

justin · 19th May 2005, 17:47

Will and I will be opening and managing a sourceforge.net project, which will hopefully be the mainline version.
Or something...

-Justin

PAK-9 · 19th May 2005, 18:39

Had a bit of a lookie, bit gutted it wont compile under .NET, but it could be changed to do so (I hate the VC6 interface)

Gotta keep an eye on sourceforge, are you going to post here when its set up?

will · 19th May 2005, 23:33

werd.

The reason we're setting up a sourceforge page is to try to keep the project in one piece rather than several forks. Also, to FINALLY give everyone else a chance to catch up =)

S-uper_T-oast · 20th May 2005, 04:57

This is like a highschool reunion or something. All these people are popping out of the wood work... this is a very good day.

TomyLobo · 20th May 2005, 06:02

yeah duo, zen-x where have you been? and what makes you pop up all of a sudden?

Rovastar · 20th May 2005, 14:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Zen-X
Sweet, first job; add AVStrans / Glob variables to main dll...

Although will winamp be updated with it (unlikely) or will every pack wanting to use the new AVS have to include the required vis_avs.dll with it? In which case what sort version control will there be?

I know there aren't any answers to these questions, just thinking through text.

Peace

zen-x

I imagine that we will have the new versions with Winamp in the future. I intend on doing that with the OS MilkDrop.

^..^ · 20th May 2005, 14:43

appreciate that!

MaTTFURY · 20th May 2005, 18:39

does this mean the libvisual project is gone?

TomyLobo · 20th May 2005, 22:29

nope, libvisual is dedicated to a totally different cause: giving visualization plugins an interface to build upon while libvisual takes care of the player and maybe even OS support

Mr_Nudge · 21st May 2005, 05:46

it's about time too!! i think the most needed addition, although it would be the most complicated is hardware support

hboy · 21st May 2005, 11:18

omg these are really huge and complicated for my tiny brain

[Ishan] · 22nd May 2005, 15:04

*cough*hardware support*cough*

so...when does the real work start?

zamuz · 22nd May 2005, 19:36

huge news. but, just as we've been patiently waiting for avs to become open source, we should be just as patient when it comes to its development. i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure adding hardware acceleration support is a pretty complicated process, so let's remember codemonkeys are human, and cut em some slack

UnConeD · 22nd May 2005, 21:04

Adding hardware acceleration to AVS wouldn't be a good idea. And a duplication of effort.

Yathosho · 23rd May 2005, 09:37

Quote:

Originally posted by ^..^
But whatever you want to happen first, my main/only wish would be, that avs stays 'straight'. It'd be awfully bad if we had thousands of different crappy versions. So perhaps/hopefully/PLEASE new winamp-releases could contain the last (finished) open-source-AVS??

in a way i find this a bit narrow-minded. i certainly hope that the developers consider the potential of avs and don't think of it as a plugin for a not-so-major-anymore mediaplayer.

jheriko · 23rd May 2005, 13:29

I think the real thing will be maintaining avs and not expanding it too drastically. fixing the bugs and removing the poor UI design choices etc...

that and hardware would do little for avs. it certainly cant be added to existing components like superscope..

will · 23rd May 2005, 13:38

Homepage at http://www.nullsoft.com/free/avs/

goebish · 23rd May 2005, 15:00

Count me in to replace render/avi by VfxAviPlayer.ape and keep compatibility with presets using the previous one.
I could also improve my addborder.ape as it is used in lots of presets packs.

sf nick: goebish

TomyLobo · 23rd May 2005, 15:39

yeah what about setting the width of the border relative to the whole image or in pixels

18th May 2005, 21:42	#1
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	AVS has been made open source! A sourceforge project is in the process of being created. If you want to be added to this as a developer (when sf approves the it) please post here with your sourceforge username. I'm not going to take an active role in this project, I've just been pursuaded by Cody to start it up. Heh. If you want to start tinkering now, the homepage is here: http://www.nullsoft.com/free/avs/ However, please hold off on making any (big/important) changes until we have some kind of sourceforge-based source control going. Lots of love, Will DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

19th May 2005, 02:29	#4
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	HOOOOOOOORAH!!!!! i am not normal, no really.

19th May 2005, 04:58	#5
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	W0000T! ...and now? Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

19th May 2005, 06:54	#6
jheriko Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: a twist in the fabric of space Posts: 2,150	i will look at this when i finish work today. stupid real life... so time consuming EDIT: sf username jheriko -- Jheriko 'Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers'

19th May 2005, 07:46	#9
TomyLobo Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 580	my sf username is tomylobo If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic.

18th May 2005, 22:04	#2
Boktor Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 38	Hurray!!

19th May 2005, 01:40	#3
S-uper_T-oast Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fnord?! Posts: 2,657	Wow, time to go find all those posts that said AVS WILL NEVER BECOME OPEN SOURCE and laugh hysterically. This could mean some good things if people can use this well. I might actually start taking the time to learn to use the new features and start AVSing again.

19th May 2005, 07:30	#8
s_kupers Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2	Well, this was certainly unexpected .

19th May 2005, 08:10	#10
Zevensoft Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ballarat, Australia Posts: 529	Ooh yeah! * pelvic thrusts in the general direction of AVS sf username zevensoft 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 3W \| 4W W

19th May 2005, 09:55	#11
times2 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 43	no way! this is awesome. my top 5 new feature wishlist:- non-realtime output double buffering on overlay while the editor is open visualisation that runs while the GUI is being accessed AVS as a plugin in other realtime/ non realtime packages DV support thanks boktor for showing me this! i might even come out of 'retirement'... T

19th May 2005, 11:32	#12
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	somebody sticky this btw... my sf username is 'Jaak-' (yes... the '-' is supposed to be there... basterds usin' MY name!!1one1) Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

19th May 2005, 11:34	#13
Warrior of the Light Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,121	/grabs his C books Free beer in the internet café for everyone But Jaak is right... A plan is needed to go on from.. or else we will have 30 different and uncompatible versions of vis_avs.dll Jesus loves you [yes, you] so much, he even died for you so that you will not need to die, but live forever

19th May 2005, 12:10	#14
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	you more like need 'C for dark voodoo magicians' Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

19th May 2005, 12:30	#15
PAK-9 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 1,374	We're through the looking glass people... I thought this day would never come, and now its here sniff, its beautiful man, just beautiful. my sf username is 'pak-9' and for some reason I can seem to download that avs_src.zip that will linked to. http://PAK-9.deviantart.com ...innit

19th May 2005, 12:35	#17
PAK-9 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 1,374	sweet, thanky thanky http://PAK-9.deviantart.com ...innit

19th May 2005, 13:34	#18
duo Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: new york Posts: 10	Never thought I would read that

19th May 2005, 14:30	#19
Zen-X Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6	Sweet, first job; add AVStrans / Glob variables to main dll... Although will winamp be updated with it (unlikely) or will every pack wanting to use the new AVS have to include the required vis_avs.dll with it? In which case what sort version control will there be? I know there aren't any answers to these questions, just thinking through text. Peace zen-x

19th May 2005, 15:24	#20
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	jawdrops whoa. I cant believe this finally happened. Although i'm not so good with programming, i can imagine the possibilities of an Open Source AVS. Hopefully someone from the many talented programmers here would make the one wish we've always been waiting for, Make AVS faster...maybe with hardware acceleration. Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

19th May 2005, 17:16	#21
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	i guess we'll have to wait for that a bit longer. But including some common ape's into AVS itslef seems much more likely to me. But whatever you want to happen first, my main/only wish would be, that avs stays 'straight'. It'd be awfully bad if we had thousands of different crappy versions. So perhaps/hopefully/PLEASE new winamp-releases could contain the last (finished) open-source-AVS?? (also i'm holding back with my wishes, cause i most probably won't be able to support this project much. )

19th May 2005, 17:47	#22
justin Moderator Alumni Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: USA Posts: 315	Will and I will be opening and managing a sourceforge.net project, which will hopefully be the mainline version. Or something... -Justin

19th May 2005, 18:39	#23
PAK-9 Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 1,374	Had a bit of a lookie, bit gutted it wont compile under .NET, but it could be changed to do so (I hate the VC6 interface) Gotta keep an eye on sourceforge, are you going to post here when its set up? http://PAK-9.deviantart.com ...innit

19th May 2005, 23:33	#24
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	werd. The reason we're setting up a sourceforge page is to try to keep the project in one piece rather than several forks. Also, to FINALLY give everyone else a chance to catch up =) DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

20th May 2005, 04:57	#25
S-uper_T-oast Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fnord?! Posts: 2,657	This is like a highschool reunion or something. All these people are popping out of the wood work... this is a very good day.

20th May 2005, 06:02	#26
TomyLobo Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 580	yeah duo, zen-x where have you been? and what makes you pop up all of a sudden? If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic.

20th May 2005, 14:43	#28
^..^ Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: There Posts: 1,002	appreciate that!

20th May 2005, 18:39	#29
MaTTFURY Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia, Posts: 1,356	does this mean the libvisual project is gone? i am not normal, no really.

20th May 2005, 22:29	#30
TomyLobo Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 580	nope, libvisual is dedicated to a totally different cause: giving visualization plugins an interface to build upon while libvisual takes care of the player and maybe even OS support If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic.

21st May 2005, 05:46	#31
Mr_Nudge Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: melbourne, australia Posts: 655	it's about time too!! i think the most needed addition, although it would be the most complicated is hardware support Life's a game, break the rules Click here

21st May 2005, 11:18	#32
hboy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hungary Posts: 217	omg these are really huge and complicated for my tiny brain

22nd May 2005, 15:04	#33
[Ishan] Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Posts: 1,156	coughhardware supportcough so...when does the real work start? Amateur AVS'er. All over again. Last AVS Pack : Resurgence

22nd May 2005, 19:36	#34
zamuz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: santiago, chile Posts: 152	huge news. but, just as we've been patiently waiting for avs to become open source, we should be just as patient when it comes to its development. i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure adding hardware acceleration support is a pretty complicated process, so let's remember codemonkeys are human, and cut em some slack

22nd May 2005, 21:04	#35
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	Adding hardware acceleration to AVS wouldn't be a good idea. And a duplication of effort.

23rd May 2005, 13:29	#37
jheriko Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: a twist in the fabric of space Posts: 2,150	I think the real thing will be maintaining avs and not expanding it too drastically. fixing the bugs and removing the poor UI design choices etc... that and hardware would do little for avs. it certainly cant be added to existing components like superscope.. -- Jheriko 'Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers'

23rd May 2005, 13:38	#38
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Homepage at http://www.nullsoft.com/free/avs/ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

23rd May 2005, 15:00	#39
goebish Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: an UFO near planet earth Posts: 164	Count me in to replace render/avi by VfxAviPlayer.ape and keep compatibility with presets using the previous one. I could also improve my addborder.ape as it is used in lots of presets packs. sf nick: goebish Get more APEs Last edited by goebish; 23rd May 2005 at 16:19.