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DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 00:59

Hello Guys!
I was reading threads all day (6 hours) and I got the answers for all my questions...so far but 2!!
first is very important...:
so I did the setup and so...have forwarded the chosen port to the local machine I have chosen to be the server...so far so good!
I am able to go to another machine on the LAN and listen to my broadcast without any lag (delay)...ok..keep reading!!...when I put: the public address that comcast has given me http://blablaIP:9000 , I can listen for 3 seconds then it stops!...I KNOW I KNOW...they have said...that delays are always present...but in my case is kindof local is not it?!!!
Can you help?! (The most logical explanation was that My cable MODEM does not support auto loopback (but comcast dudes said it does!!).....my broadcast address is: http://10.132.13.2:9000/listen.pls (try it if you please!)
second question is: how can I get started to get a web player.. (u know a player inside a tiny web page!)
Cheers...and thanks in advance!

tuckerm · 31st May 2005, 01:13

1) your not broadcasting..connection refuesed
2) search for embeded player in this forum

tuckerm · 31st May 2005, 01:14

check for errors in your DNAS

[edit> thats not your IP cause i cant even get into the shoutcast display thingy..try www.whatismyip.com]

drewbar · 31st May 2005, 01:21

10.X.X.X is never a valid internet IP routable address.

DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 01:22

Sorry...wrong IP given: local address!!so the real one is:

http://67.172.134.252:9000
my apologies!!! try it now!!

Nick@ss · 31st May 2005, 05:47

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tuckerm · 31st May 2005, 11:24

yep get that here also

DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 21:22

well I turned off my station...try it from now to infinity!

I will be checking your answers...very often!

djSpinnerCee · 31st May 2005, 21:34

The Auto Loopback is a feature that you will only "know" by testing -- it really doesn't matter if your ISP says it should work, if you do everythying right, it just may not be allowed by your gear.

I didn't really understand what was your problem with delay, but if you can connect, local loopback is not a problem, but there wil be a delay ALWAYS, it doesn't evan matter if you're listening on the same PC as the DNAS -- moreover, that delay is not network-distance related, so your local listen delay could be possibly be greater than any of your remote listeners. It's just the way networking works.

DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 21:37

ok,
Thanks for your answer...do you mind trying listening to it?
even thought...It does make no sense that I will have more lag than remote users...I kind of don't get it...
http://67.172.134.252:9000

tuckerm · 31st May 2005, 21:40

Current Stream Information
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 80 kbps with 0 of 100 listeners (0 unique)
Listener Peak: 1
Average Listen Time: 0m 01s
Stream Title: Radio Bou3raben Experimental
Content Type: audio/mpeg
Stream Genre: Alternative
Stream URL: http://www.shoutcast.com
Stream AIM: N/A
Stream IRC: #shoutcast
Current Song: Mario Lopez - Blind (cj stone meets mr phillips remix)

djSpinnerCee · 31st May 2005, 21:40

Delay often has more to do with the player than the server -- In WinAMP, RealPlayer, and probably others, the buffer size is configurable (either by seconds or RAM size) -- this is where most of the delay variance comes from.

DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 21:45

ok, so u can listen to it...
My other question is not being answered!!! why...why!!! LOL
anyways...I found some code to work with for that...
What do u think about MICs??(I am trying to get a descent config for a talk show!)..I am concerned about background noise...and auto switching..instead of a toggle switch!!

Thanks

NJK · 31st May 2005, 21:46

some polite advise

you are trying to stream at 80kbps from your home connection , nothing wrong there but there is no way in the world you can support 100 listeners on a home connection.

time for some simple math.

take your uploadspeed devide it by 80 kbps , the outcome is the max listeners.

example: if your uploadspeed is 512kbps than you can savely support 5 listeners (512/80=6.4) you always need some bandwidth for overhead.

DZWIFI · 31st May 2005, 21:51

LOL...I know..
I am wrote EXPERIMENTAL...means I am gonna lower it / or I am setting it up on a faster connection @ work (several T1)
Thanks for the Advice Homes!
I got a little sense of math!...I like especially Schrodinger equations! LOL
Thanks though!

webhostau · 1st June 2005, 12:43

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31st May 2005, 00:59	#1
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	Web player Hello Guys! I was reading threads all day (6 hours) and I got the answers for all my questions...so far but 2!! first is very important...: so I did the setup and so...have forwarded the chosen port to the local machine I have chosen to be the server...so far so good! I am able to go to another machine on the LAN and listen to my broadcast without any lag (delay)...ok..keep reading!!...when I put: the public address that comcast has given me http://blablaIP:9000 , I can listen for 3 seconds then it stops!...I KNOW I KNOW...they have said...that delays are always present...but in my case is kindof local is not it?!!! Can you help?! (The most logical explanation was that My cable MODEM does not support auto loopback (but comcast dudes said it does!!).....my broadcast address is: http://10.132.13.2:9000/listen.pls (try it if you please!) second question is: how can I get started to get a web player.. (u know a player inside a tiny web page!) Cheers...and thanks in advance!

31st May 2005, 01:13	#2
tuckerm Forum Emo Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,364	1) your not broadcasting..connection refuesed 2) search for embeded player in this forum @tuckerm

31st May 2005, 01:14	#3
tuckerm Forum Emo Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,364	check for errors in your DNAS [edit> thats not your IP cause i cant even get into the shoutcast display thingy..try www.whatismyip.com] @tuckerm

31st May 2005, 01:21	#4
drewbar Sawg 2.0 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,916	10.X.X.X is never a valid internet IP routable address. Count with us! Jan 1st, 12AM (PST, GMT -8) 2010 - 282,246

31st May 2005, 05:47	#6
Nick@ss Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Streamsolutions Headquarters Posts: 11,953	The page cannot be displayed www.streamsolutions.co.uk SHOUTcast \| Flash Media \| Windows Media \| Icecast 2 \| Content Delivery \|

31st May 2005, 01:22	#5
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	Sorry...wrong IP given: local address!!so the real one is: http://67.172.134.252:9000 my apologies!!! try it now!!

31st May 2005, 11:24	#7
tuckerm Forum Emo Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,364	yep get that here also @tuckerm

31st May 2005, 21:22	#8
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	well I turned off my station...try it from now to infinity! I will be checking your answers...very often!

31st May 2005, 21:34	#9
djSpinnerCee Forum King Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollis, Queens/The Bronx, NYC Posts: 3,555	The Auto Loopback is a feature that you will only "know" by testing -- it really doesn't matter if your ISP says it should work, if you do everythying right, it just may not be allowed by your gear. I didn't really understand what was your problem with delay, but if you can connect, local loopback is not a problem, but there wil be a delay ALWAYS, it doesn't evan matter if you're listening on the same PC as the DNAS -- moreover, that delay is not network-distance related, so your local listen delay could be possibly be greater than any of your remote listeners. It's just the way networking works. /* v2 HTML5 / Player test pages DigitalMixNYC, DigitalMixNYCbx \| DNAS Status: Now Playing js codes (scaststatus_X.php) \| PortForward.com \| Upload/Download Speed Test \| No-IP.com: Free Dynamic DNS \| In the YP \| dnasDir */

31st May 2005, 21:37	#10
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	ok, Thanks for your answer...do you mind trying listening to it? even thought...It does make no sense that I will have more lag than remote users...I kind of don't get it... http://67.172.134.252:9000

31st May 2005, 21:40	#11
tuckerm Forum Emo Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,364	Current Stream Information Server Status: Server is currently up and public. Stream Status: Stream is up at 80 kbps with 0 of 100 listeners (0 unique) Listener Peak: 1 Average Listen Time: 0m 01s Stream Title: Radio Bou3raben Experimental Content Type: audio/mpeg Stream Genre: Alternative Stream URL: http://www.shoutcast.com Stream AIM: N/A Stream IRC: #shoutcast Current Song: Mario Lopez - Blind (cj stone meets mr phillips remix) @tuckerm

31st May 2005, 21:45	#13
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	ok, so u can listen to it... My other question is not being answered!!! why...why!!! LOL anyways...I found some code to work with for that... What do u think about MICs??(I am trying to get a descent config for a talk show!)..I am concerned about background noise...and auto switching..instead of a toggle switch!! Thanks

31st May 2005, 21:46	#14
NJK FRISIAN (MOD) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in a house Posts: 16,103	some polite advise you are trying to stream at 80kbps from your home connection , nothing wrong there but there is no way in the world you can support 100 listeners on a home connection. time for some simple math. take your uploadspeed devide it by 80 kbps , the outcome is the max listeners. example: if your uploadspeed is 512kbps than you can savely support 5 listeners (512/80=6.4) you always need some bandwidth for overhead. Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music. WINAMP SHOUTCAST

31st May 2005, 21:51	#15
DZWIFI Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	LOL...I know.. I am wrote EXPERIMENTAL...means I am gonna lower it / or I am setting it up on a faster connection @ work (several T1) Thanks for the Advice Homes! I got a little sense of math!...I like especially Schrodinger equations! LOL Thanks though!

1st June 2005, 12:43	#16
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