Which is better: Photoshop or Paint Shop?

Flynnz · 15th January 2001, 00:04

Well...?

fish · 15th January 2001, 00:08

it depends. photoshop is for photos and paint shop is for painting

Ice · 15th January 2001, 00:10

photoshop all the way. photoshop is the best for editing images, and can also paint. photoshop is sectsay.

Matt · 15th January 2001, 00:13

No competiton, it's Paint Shop (Pro).

Photoshop is unusable and has the worse interface I've ever seen.

15th January 2001, 00:13

If you are going for quality and value, Paint Shop Pro is the best for its price. (I am assuming you are buying it).

Yantze · 15th January 2001, 00:30

PhotoShop is the industry standard for pretty much every graphic-related industry. I haven't used Paint Shop Pro since version 4 and it was really bad back then. PhotoShop 6 is probably the most powerful graphics program available right now. It's jpg compression algorhythm is the best in the business (beating even FireWorks) and it can now use Vector Tools (not as good as Illustrator, but pretty dam close).

As for the interface, Adobe's interface has been copied by many companies (such as MacroMedia who are being sued by Adobe now for patent infringement).

My suggestion is to get/learn PhotoShop. It is WAY more powerful than the other products on the market now.

15th January 2001, 00:52

PhotoShop is clearly the better program. Whether it is worth $609.00 US dollars (suggested retail), depends on what you're going to do with it. If you are just going to make Winamp skins and retouch photos, Paint Shop Pro more than does the job for me. And at a tenth of the price.

My 2 cents

(And Yantze, Paint Shop Pro has evolved a lot since version 4).

[Edited by randman on 01-14-2001 at 09:13 PM]

Flynnz · 15th January 2001, 01:11

Keep the "cents" coming.

s1138 · 15th January 2001, 02:46

well, since i havent installed Paint Shop Pro yet, i cant say. but photoshop is good for me

Jayn · 15th January 2001, 02:57

I use Paint Shop Pro 7 (much better than version 6). I have Photoshop, but I've never done much with it yet. Yantze is right, Photoshop is the industry standard, but for just starting out Paint Shop Pro is much easier to use.

Flynnz · 15th January 2001, 03:04

Might be good to note that I have a 200 mhz pentium with 64 megs of ram....

BuZZboX · 15th January 2001, 03:14

I was always a keen fan of Paint Shop Pro, ever since my old 486 days! It's fine for normal graphic type stuff, but as you get better with graphics, you'll need more advanced software. Photoshop is a high end users tool, and i bet even the people who say how much they love it, haven't even got past using the twirl effect yet!!! So yeah, you use what you need. I still have both Photoshop 5.5 and PSP6 on my Athlon800.

By the way, I have Photoshop 4 on an old P75 with 32MB RAM!!! It runs fine!

Ice · 15th January 2001, 03:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Flynnz
Might be good to note that I have a 200 mhz pentium with 64 megs of ram....

i ran version 5 on my pentium 75 mhz with 20 megs ram. i dont think you'll have any trouble.

Anacific · 15th January 2001, 04:41

I like Photoshop...even though it takes a while to load on my comp...

magnezium · 15th January 2001, 09:28

well i've tried all three... and i'll tell u corel photopaint 9 is the winner...=] but then again, it's a matter of opinion and what u use the program for...=]

Kezman · 15th January 2001, 13:19

nah Paint Shop Pro is alright with me...version 7 rulez..

much better than Photoshop atleast that's my opinion..

John M · 15th January 2001, 18:01

paint+picture it = all i need.

PhrostByte · 15th January 2001, 18:15

Paint Shop Pro 7.0 for editing, creating, scanning documents, and some other stuff...

Also, I use Eye Candy 4000 and Xenofex for effects, and Ulead 3D Cool for text.

Yantze · 15th January 2001, 18:23

PhotoShop 5.5 and 6 both require like 94Mb to run with ImageReady and I think 64Mb to run by itself, so I think you'd probably be better off with Paint Shop Pro.

Like everything, it is a matter of opinion. If you have a fast connection, why not download the trials for both and then pick the one YOU like best?

D-cibeL · 15th January 2001, 22:17

Personally I like Corel PhotoPaint. It comes with Corel Draw, which is by far the best software package for it's price. Paint+vectors for a price which is less than Photoshop. Photoshop + Illustrator = much much more. PhotoPaint has basically the same features as Photoshop, but with a much nicer interface.

As far as Paint Shop Pro goes, I think it's more of a hobbiest's program than a professional program. That's just my opinion though.

[D-cibeL]

Flynnz · 15th January 2001, 22:23

"If you have a fast connection, why not download the trials for both and then pick the one YOU like best?"

Did that already.. just wanted to hear what YOU guys thought.

bad_rip_off · 15th January 2001, 23:11

corel kicks photoshop's fat ass

boobless · 15th January 2001, 23:19

never used photoshop, don't like paint shop that much...love photoimpact 6 ulead.com tho.

Xerxes · 16th January 2001, 06:40

There is a reason Adobe leads the market - photoshop cannot be beat. It is the ultimate tool for graphics, and it has now added worlds of usability and function to the package with the addition of vector drawing in photoshop 6.

If you look in serious design magazines, you don't hear
much mention of anything else. Actually, you MIGHT do
yourself better if you want to stay on the free side and
download "the GIMP" for windows which has been hailed by
many as a near equal to photoshop...

I say either Photoshop or GIMP, and eliminate paintshop out of the equation.

magnezium · 16th January 2001, 08:34

hey guys! let's all use M$ Paint and M$ Photo Editor!!! and for those with win 3.1 and below, use Paintbrush!!!

ElChevelle · 16th January 2001, 10:43

If you suck at painting, do us all a favor and DO NOT use Photoshop!
There's nothing uglier than putting a shitty driver behind the wheel of a Lamborghini.

John M · 16th January 2001, 13:21

understood.

ElmoTheGreat · 16th January 2001, 13:30

Do more = Study more = Photoshop

What does this have to do with Winamp?

EvilTenster · 16th January 2001, 13:39

Hmm.. for those with semi-"alternative" operating sytem also installed you could use the Gimp, although figuring out how to use it is sometimes interesting...

Plus it's free... and it's name gets way more laughs than the other two..

Flynnz · 16th January 2001, 13:59

I already tried GIMP... the Windows port is horribly slow, and - unsurprisingly - was kinda hard for me to use.

(We'll see how it is once I get Linux installed.)

NoLimit37 · 16th January 2001, 15:49

I got PSP 4 SE.. LOL I think I need to get a newer version of PSP.. Right now I can make little outerspace type pictures with letters that look really cool and pop out of the picture sorta.. I usually use the effects of a graphics programs in strange ways that not many people would think of.. MUHHAHAHAHAHA!!

D-cibeL · 16th January 2001, 21:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Flynnz
I already tried GIMP... the Windows port is horribly slow, and - unsurprisingly - was kinda hard for me to use.

(We'll see how it is once I get Linux installed.)

I personally like Gimp, and think the Windows port runs reasonabaly fast, although it crashes alot when opening pics. I strongly suggest you try CorelDraw though. I assure you, you will not be dissapointed.

Check out features here:
http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi...id=CC1IOY1YKCC

(What's great is that Corel make software for Windows, Mac, AND *Linux*)

15th January 2001, 00:08	#2
fish Pretty Cool Guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cle, OH, USA Posts: 4,847	it depends. photoshop is for photos and paint shop is for painting eh, heh.

15th January 2001, 00:10	#3
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,303	photoshop all the way. photoshop is the best for editing images, and can also paint. photoshop is sectsay. I'd like to meet a mad man who makes it all seem sane To work out all these troubles and what there is to gain

15th January 2001, 01:11	#8
Flynnz Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: mostly not here anymore Posts: 855	Interesting... Keep the "cents" coming.

15th January 2001, 03:14	#12
BuZZboX Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 10	Photoshop vs Paint Shop Pro I was always a keen fan of Paint Shop Pro, ever since my old 486 days! It's fine for normal graphic type stuff, but as you get better with graphics, you'll need more advanced software. Photoshop is a high end users tool, and i bet even the people who say how much they love it, haven't even got past using the twirl effect yet!!! So yeah, you use what you need. I still have both Photoshop 5.5 and PSP6 on my Athlon800. By the way, I have Photoshop 4 on an old P75 with 32MB RAM!!! It runs fine!

15th January 2001, 04:41	#14
Anacific Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,744	I like Photoshop...even though it takes a while to load on my comp... "He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence." - William Blake WSPA \| WWF \| RSPCA \| AAPA \| Green Peace - Know and help... The Rainforest Site \| The Animal Rescue Site - Click and help...

15th January 2001, 00:04	#1
Flynnz Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: mostly not here anymore Posts: 855	Well...?

15th January 2001, 00:13	#4
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,396	No competiton, it's Paint Shop (Pro). Photoshop is unusable and has the worse interface I've ever seen.

15th January 2001, 00:13	#5
randman Guest Posts: n/a	If you are going for quality and value, Paint Shop Pro is the best for its price. (I am assuming you are buying it).

15th January 2001, 00:30	#6
Yantze Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 141	PhotoShop is the industry standard for pretty much every graphic-related industry. I haven't used Paint Shop Pro since version 4 and it was really bad back then. PhotoShop 6 is probably the most powerful graphics program available right now. It's jpg compression algorhythm is the best in the business (beating even FireWorks) and it can now use Vector Tools (not as good as Illustrator, but pretty dam close). As for the interface, Adobe's interface has been copied by many companies (such as MacroMedia who are being sued by Adobe now for patent infringement). My suggestion is to get/learn PhotoShop. It is WAY more powerful than the other products on the market now.

15th January 2001, 00:52	#7
randman Guest Posts: n/a	PhotoShop is clearly the better program. Whether it is worth $609.00 US dollars (suggested retail), depends on what you're going to do with it. If you are just going to make Winamp skins and retouch photos, Paint Shop Pro more than does the job for me. And at a tenth of the price. My 2 cents (And Yantze, Paint Shop Pro has evolved a lot since version 4). [Edited by randman on 01-14-2001 at 09:13 PM]

15th January 2001, 02:46	#9
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	well, since i havent installed Paint Shop Pro yet, i cant say. but photoshop is good for me

15th January 2001, 02:57	#10
Jayn Honorary Vixen (Forum Queen) Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,996	I use Paint Shop Pro 7 (much better than version 6). I have Photoshop, but I've never done much with it yet. Yantze is right, Photoshop is the industry standard, but for just starting out Paint Shop Pro is much easier to use.

15th January 2001, 03:04	#11
Flynnz Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: mostly not here anymore Posts: 855	Might be good to note that I have a 200 mhz pentium with 64 megs of ram....

15th January 2001, 09:28	#15
magnezium Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 306	well i've tried all three... and i'll tell u corel photopaint 9 is the winner...=] but then again, it's a matter of opinion and what u use the program for...=]

15th January 2001, 13:19	#16
Kezman Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Honolulu Posts: 80	nah Paint Shop Pro is alright with me...version 7 rulez.. much better than Photoshop atleast that's my opinion..

15th January 2001, 18:01	#17
John M Puts the Cuss in General Discussions (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cincy, Ohio Posts: 3,624	paint+picture it = all i need. missyob made me post this.

15th January 2001, 18:15	#18
PhrostByte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 109	Paint Shop Pro 7.0 for editing, creating, scanning documents, and some other stuff... Also, I use Eye Candy 4000 and Xenofex for effects, and Ulead 3D Cool for text.

15th January 2001, 18:23	#19
Yantze Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 141	PhotoShop 5.5 and 6 both require like 94Mb to run with ImageReady and I think 64Mb to run by itself, so I think you'd probably be better off with Paint Shop Pro. Like everything, it is a matter of opinion. If you have a fast connection, why not download the trials for both and then pick the one YOU like best?

15th January 2001, 22:17	#20
D-cibeL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: the basement Posts: 158	Personally I like Corel PhotoPaint. It comes with Corel Draw, which is by far the best software package for it's price. Paint+vectors for a price which is less than Photoshop. Photoshop + Illustrator = much much more. PhotoPaint has basically the same features as Photoshop, but with a much nicer interface. As far as Paint Shop Pro goes, I think it's more of a hobbiest's program than a professional program. That's just my opinion though. [D-cibeL]

15th January 2001, 22:23	#21
Flynnz Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: mostly not here anymore Posts: 855	"If you have a fast connection, why not download the trials for both and then pick the one YOU like best?" Did that already.. just wanted to hear what YOU guys thought.

15th January 2001, 23:11	#22
bad_rip_off Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 18	corel kicks photoshop's fat ass

15th January 2001, 23:19	#23
boobless Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 88	never used photoshop, don't like paint shop that much...love photoimpact 6 ulead.com tho.

16th January 2001, 06:40	#24
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	There is a reason Adobe leads the market - photoshop cannot be beat. It is the ultimate tool for graphics, and it has now added worlds of usability and function to the package with the addition of vector drawing in photoshop 6. If you look in serious design magazines, you don't hear much mention of anything else. Actually, you MIGHT do yourself better if you want to stay on the free side and download "the GIMP" for windows which has been hailed by many as a near equal to photoshop... I say either Photoshop or GIMP, and eliminate paintshop out of the equation.

16th January 2001, 08:34	#25
magnezium Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 306	hey guys! let's all use M$ Paint and M$ Photo Editor!!! and for those with win 3.1 and below, use Paintbrush!!!

16th January 2001, 10:43	#26
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	If you suck at painting, do us all a favor and DO NOT use Photoshop! There's nothing uglier than putting a shitty driver behind the wheel of a Lamborghini.

16th January 2001, 13:21	#27
John M Puts the Cuss in General Discussions (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cincy, Ohio Posts: 3,624	understood. missyob made me post this.

16th January 2001, 13:30	#28
ElmoTheGreat Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 25	Learning curve Do more = Study more = Photoshop What does this have to do with Winamp?

16th January 2001, 13:39	#29
EvilTenster Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 37	Hmm.. for those with semi-"alternative" operating sytem also installed you could use the Gimp, although figuring out how to use it is sometimes interesting... Plus it's free... and it's name gets way more laughs than the other two..

16th January 2001, 13:59	#30
Flynnz Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: mostly not here anymore Posts: 855	I already tried GIMP... the Windows port is horribly slow, and - unsurprisingly - was kinda hard for me to use. (We'll see how it is once I get Linux installed.)

16th January 2001, 15:49	#31
NoLimit37 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 31	hmmm.... I got PSP 4 SE.. LOL I think I need to get a newer version of PSP.. Right now I can make little outerspace type pictures with letters that look really cool and pop out of the picture sorta.. I usually use the effects of a graphics programs in strange ways that not many people would think of.. MUHHAHAHAHAHA!!

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