2.72b decoder bug?

distortion · 15th January 2001, 06:14

Wondering if anyone else notices this. Under the new decoder (2.72b) while using Internet Explorer or scrolling down a web page, loading a web page, etc. Does anyone else notice that the track playing "statics" out for a split second (similar to the "win2k crackle/pop bug" only more of a static-like distortion)? It's kinda odd. (btw, thanks Justin for fixing that annoying lame bug

) but naturally I gotta be a trouble maker and find new things wrong

bonj · 15th January 2001, 06:18

I noticed that too.. kinda minor static but it's there. IE is using 20 megs of RAM but I have 256 megs so..

distortion · 15th January 2001, 06:21

yeah its not a big deal but it is there and its pretty noticable (to me at least). Might be another win2k only thing. Hmph. Just wanted to bring it to someone's (hopefully Justin's duh

) attention. 192MB here and IE is sucking down about 10MB which is a few megs higher then usual.

15th January 2001, 07:21

I'm not 100% sure that the issue you are talking about is what i've experienced in the past, but i've had something similiar.

While using IE ( primarily if i'm using the mousewheel to scroll ), I get a short distortion / static. However, I moved Winamp to "high" processor priority, and it has resolved the problem.

Since Winamp really doesn't use much processor time anyway, it really hasn't caused any problems either.

Domain

distortion · 15th January 2001, 07:45

hmm yeah mine was already at high so I turned it down to normal and they became a bit more frequent... I've also noticed the static/blip when minimizing windows that are sucking down significant memory (AIM windows with lots of images exchanged..yadda). I dont dare put it up to realtime as this has caused problems under windows2000 (it doesn't like realtime priority on programs that it doesn't deem worthy

)

oh sidenote: I'm not sure what issue you've also been having in the past but this one has only surfaced since I started using this decoder so if "the past" is longer ago... then who knows

fear the madness

magnezium · 15th January 2001, 09:22

i couldn't reproduce that either and i only have 32 megs ram. did u try turning off smooth scrolling?

R68A_5200 · 15th January 2001, 12:40

Does it happen with all songs? You should try others first. Do you have a PCI Display Adapter. In this case you should read this, http://www.zefiro.com/vgakills.txt

Matt · 15th January 2001, 15:44

I have similar problems. But also when I press on a menu or start button the sound goes a bit strange. Also there are occassional short skips in the song. This happened with the other decoder though and I have the same problem with sound in games.

Driver trouble is the problem not Winamp. Maybe Win 2000 fault as 98 and ME work fine with sound.

Does anyone else have Win2000 sound probs with a AGP card? Cause I do.

c0deX · 15th January 2001, 20:28

Hmm, I just had that problem scrolling down this page, although I hadn't noticed it before. I have a pIII 450 with 192 mb of ram and win2k.

distortion · 16th January 2001, 00:23

smooth scrolling and all other transistion effects are off.. been there tried that. The pop/blips have been around forever since I've gone to win2k so they are most likely win2ks fault. I dont have any problems with sound outside of this one or any resulting from my agp video. And it happens on pretty much any song, bitrate, encoder, etc. on a P2 450/192MB/win2k sp1

grahamma · 16th January 2001, 02:15

I'm glad I found this discussion because it's the reason I was browsing these forums. I'm running win2k with 128 megs ram on a pIII 866. Winamp has started to make some funny "staticy" (for lack of a better description) noises. They're very win 2k specific as I have never heard them in win98. Actually it's not really noises at all, but it sounds like it's cutting out... if I run something else or minimize or maximize a window it'll do it and sometimes stop completely and I'll have to end the winamp task.

What's going on???

It didn't do this in Win98.

What kind of graphics cards are you guys using?? I have a Creative Labs 3D Banshee that I think may be the culprit for many of my problems. I'm going to upgrade my memory and video card in the next couple of days so if it fixes the problem I'll let you guys know.

Thanks.

Graham

P.S. Let me know if you figure it out!!

talha · 16th January 2001, 02:47

I'm experiencing skips in Winamp playback recently. Didn't happen before. It happens one or two times a song. I don't have any plugins or anything installed.

I guess it might be some application I have installed recently.

magnezium · 16th January 2001, 08:50

i just got one of those statics while listening to one of chopin's scherzos... completely random... but using win95... perhaps it was something else that caused it... oh i just got it a second time... hmmm...

Indyrod · 16th January 2001, 13:19

It's my understanding it takes a minimum of 256k Ram, to run Win2K efficiently.

Jed · 16th January 2001, 15:59

when did Winamp 2.72 beta come out ??? i thought the newest one is 2.71 except for Winamp 3

Matt · 16th January 2001, 16:03

2.72 isn't out yet. It's the in_mp3.dll file that had been updated. Get it here -
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38757

and Win 2000 will run on 128MB and happily on 196MB.

Jed · 16th January 2001, 16:25

What is the difference between Major Dude and Senior Member? i heard that moderators got Winamp 3

Matt · 16th January 2001, 16:47

When you get 500 posts you become a 'Major Dude'.

distortion · 16th January 2001, 22:09

well all that pointless jabber aside, yes it seems that this problem is Win2k specific. I'm still playing around with it but I'm still unsure what the specific cause is.

And just for the record, I've run win2k on 32MB... you can go make dinner while it boots but the guy never turns the machine off (and only uses it for word processing lol)

It sucked bad you should really have 128, or 192 for even smoother sailing.

Update: does this static-ing get any worse for anyone when you crank the priority up to real-time? I think if you give non-essential (uhh I need winamp to live, windows, who are you kidding?

) applications real-time priority it gets angry. Bah.

Quote:

It's my understanding it takes a minimum of 256k Ram, to run Win2K efficiently.

A) I'd like to see that

B) Didnt Gates say "256k is enough for everyone"?

C) I know it was a typo but I had to make a deal of it hehe

magnezium · 17th January 2001, 11:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt
2.72 isn't out yet.

well... it is now...=]

http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/...mp272_full.exe

ojms · 17th January 2001, 12:53

it's out check out justins post.

ElChevelle · 17th January 2001, 13:55

Quote:

Originally posted by ojms
it's out check out justins post.

It wasn't out when he posted, DUH

15th January 2001, 06:18	#2
bonj Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: HEH!!!! :D Posts: 920	I noticed that too.. kinda minor static but it's there. IE is using 20 megs of RAM but I have 256 megs so.. heh?

15th January 2001, 07:21	#4
Domain Guest Posts: n/a	2.72b I'm not 100% sure that the issue you are talking about is what i've experienced in the past, but i've had something similiar. While using IE ( primarily if i'm using the mousewheel to scroll ), I get a short distortion / static. However, I moved Winamp to "high" processor priority, and it has resolved the problem. Since Winamp really doesn't use much processor time anyway, it really hasn't caused any problems either. Domain

16th January 2001, 02:15	#11
grahamma Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1	I'm having the same problem! I'm glad I found this discussion because it's the reason I was browsing these forums. I'm running win2k with 128 megs ram on a pIII 866. Winamp has started to make some funny "staticy" (for lack of a better description) noises. They're very win 2k specific as I have never heard them in win98. Actually it's not really noises at all, but it sounds like it's cutting out... if I run something else or minimize or maximize a window it'll do it and sometimes stop completely and I'll have to end the winamp task. What's going on??? It didn't do this in Win98. What kind of graphics cards are you guys using?? I have a Creative Labs 3D Banshee that I think may be the culprit for many of my problems. I'm going to upgrade my memory and video card in the next couple of days so if it fixes the problem I'll let you guys know. Thanks. Graham P.S. Let me know if you figure it out!!

16th January 2001, 13:19	#14
Indyrod Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana USA Posts: 687	To the Win2K Users.. It's my understanding it takes a minimum of 256k Ram, to run Win2K efficiently.

16th January 2001, 15:59	#15
Jed Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York Posts: 202	Winamp 2.72b?? when did Winamp 2.72 beta come out ??? i thought the newest one is 2.71 except for Winamp 3

15th January 2001, 06:14	#1
distortion Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, USA Posts: 109	Wondering if anyone else notices this. Under the new decoder (2.72b) while using Internet Explorer or scrolling down a web page, loading a web page, etc. Does anyone else notice that the track playing "statics" out for a split second (similar to the "win2k crackle/pop bug" only more of a static-like distortion)? It's kinda odd. (btw, thanks Justin for fixing that annoying lame bug ) but naturally I gotta be a trouble maker and find new things wrong

15th January 2001, 06:21	#3
distortion Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, USA Posts: 109	yeah its not a big deal but it is there and its pretty noticable (to me at least). Might be another win2k only thing. Hmph. Just wanted to bring it to someone's (hopefully Justin's duh ) attention. 192MB here and IE is sucking down about 10MB which is a few megs higher then usual.

15th January 2001, 07:45	#5
distortion Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, USA Posts: 109	hmm yeah mine was already at high so I turned it down to normal and they became a bit more frequent... I've also noticed the static/blip when minimizing windows that are sucking down significant memory (AIM windows with lots of images exchanged..yadda). I dont dare put it up to realtime as this has caused problems under windows2000 (it doesn't like realtime priority on programs that it doesn't deem worthy ) oh sidenote: I'm not sure what issue you've also been having in the past but this one has only surfaced since I started using this decoder so if "the past" is longer ago... then who knows fear the madness

15th January 2001, 09:22	#6
magnezium Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 306	i couldn't reproduce that either and i only have 32 megs ram. did u try turning off smooth scrolling?

15th January 2001, 12:40	#7
R68A_5200 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Brooklyn, New York, United States Posts: 14	Does it happen with all songs? You should try others first. Do you have a PCI Display Adapter. In this case you should read this, http://www.zefiro.com/vgakills.txt

15th January 2001, 15:44	#8
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,396	I have similar problems. But also when I press on a menu or start button the sound goes a bit strange. Also there are occassional short skips in the song. This happened with the other decoder though and I have the same problem with sound in games. Driver trouble is the problem not Winamp. Maybe Win 2000 fault as 98 and ME work fine with sound. Does anyone else have Win2000 sound probs with a AGP card? Cause I do.

15th January 2001, 20:28	#9
c0deX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 123	Hmm, I just had that problem scrolling down this page, although I hadn't noticed it before. I have a pIII 450 with 192 mb of ram and win2k.

16th January 2001, 00:23	#10
distortion Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, USA Posts: 109	smooth scrolling and all other transistion effects are off.. been there tried that. The pop/blips have been around forever since I've gone to win2k so they are most likely win2ks fault. I dont have any problems with sound outside of this one or any resulting from my agp video. And it happens on pretty much any song, bitrate, encoder, etc. on a P2 450/192MB/win2k sp1

16th January 2001, 02:47	#12
talha Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 27	I'm experiencing skips in Winamp playback recently. Didn't happen before. It happens one or two times a song. I don't have any plugins or anything installed. I guess it might be some application I have installed recently.

16th January 2001, 08:50	#13
magnezium Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 306	i just got one of those statics while listening to one of chopin's scherzos... completely random... but using win95... perhaps it was something else that caused it... oh i just got it a second time... hmmm...

16th January 2001, 16:03	#16
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,396	2.72 isn't out yet. It's the in_mp3.dll file that had been updated. Get it here - http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38757 and Win 2000 will run on 128MB and happily on 196MB.

16th January 2001, 16:25	#17
Jed Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York Posts: 202	difference between Major Dude and Senior Member What is the difference between Major Dude and Senior Member? i heard that moderators got Winamp 3

16th January 2001, 16:47	#18
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,396	When you get 500 posts you become a 'Major Dude'.

17th January 2001, 12:53	#21
ojms Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 269	2.72 is out it's out check out justins post.

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