Old 13th December 2005, 06:07   #1
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unable to play videos

I downloaded, via bittorrent, a number of avis and .mpgs from Doctor Who from the BBC. These recently used to play with no problem in winamp. After changing my harddrive and reinstalling the exact same software, I now can no longer play the video portion of the files. Teh audio will play, but no vid. Could someone please help, or suggest a thread where I might find help?

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Old 13th December 2005, 06:16   #2
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MPEGs or AVI files? Either way try ffdshow first and see if they play after that.


http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=131207

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Old 13th December 2005, 21:35   #3
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excellent! Works better than with the original codexes! Thanks for the reply.

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Old 14th December 2005, 20:35   #4
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Yes me too my Winamp video stopped working after I upgraded from v2.95 to newer versions. I don't use it that often really so it never really bothered me too much, although it would of been nice if it says it plays videos that it has the right codecs to begin with, but anyway now seeing this post and the one referred to from DJEgg about putting the two mplayer.dll's into the plugin folder ...bingo, now it works again and that's great, thanks.

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Old 14th December 2005, 22:40   #5
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...Whooops, after a few hours realized I had problems* with the mplayer.dll's, but to be fair to Winamp with my above earlier post - I must say and just realized that after 2 years with the Winamp video not working, that afterall it was not Winamps fault that broke it in the first place - it was because of an older music video I downloaded a few years ago that none of my stock players would play, so after investigating realized this particular video was recorded as mpeg-2 which none of my stock players would play - so investigating I settled on custom installing specifically the Elecard-Ligos mpeg-2 decoder files which that made the video work fine for all my other stock players, but little did I realized till just now that that is what somehow and someway interfered with Winamp being able to play Any video files at all ...well, so to step back in time too see, I just reversed that old Elecard-Ligos mpeg-2 decoder install, and also removed the mplayer.dll's placed earlier today back Out of Winamps plugin folder - and behold now most all videos worked again in Winamp without the mplayer.dll's (except that mpeg2 video)

*Now the reason why I didn't want to leave the new mplayer.dll's in place from earlier today is realizing they were not perfect seeing that 1 out of 5 of my various videos playing in Winamp would pop up a Windows Error prompt pointing to Winamp and Freeze, not good, and so these mplayer.dll's are great for sure - but are not perfected yet.

I'm still happy though because of this all happening led me to find out what caused my Winamp video not playing problem in the first place not being Winamp related at all, and so I learned things today so am still thankful - I just need a better codec to play this one odd old mpeg2 video is all, or just convert it sometime.
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Old 18th December 2005, 02:40   #6
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get the gpl mpeg1/2 directshow decoder, its very nice
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gplmpgdec/
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Old 18th December 2005, 14:50   #7
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get the gpl mpeg1/2 directshow decoder, its very nice
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gplmpgdec/
Interesting codec thanks gameplaya15143.
It's installs easily and makes few changes, and yes as far as the video goes it plays on Winamp & WMP9, but, the audio does Not play for it. I see it plays audio okay on my CyberlinkPowerDVD player but that uses its own codecs I guess.

And so it seems for this particular video anyway, specifically for its audio, looking at the audio properties Winamp shows it's an MPEG-2 Demultiplexer (AVIcodec program shows it's a: Audio: 4.71 MB, 224 Kbps, 44100Hz, 2 channels, 0x50=Mpeg-1 audio Layer 2(MP2)Unsupported)

hmmm... now I know wimamp and wmp plays .mp2 audio files but somehow this directshow decoder doesn't link all that together like the ffdshow did which did play the audio too.. and so I guess I need something else in conjunction with gplmpgdec video codec to be able to also render the audio within it like cyberlink power dvd does ...which I am sure surprised that wmp9 or winamp doesn't play the audio part of it either!
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Old 18th December 2005, 20:24   #8
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and a ps about my last post,

I was able to download just an audio codec to go with the gpl mpeg1/2 directshow decoder you gave, and what I downloaded was 'Freeware' Elecard and is a Audio Decoder DirectShow filter at: http://www.elecard.com/ftp/pub/OdioDec/OdioDec.zip ..and all it did was to place a elaudec.ax file and register it, which is a Direct Show filter for decoding MPEG-1/2/2.5, LPCM and ATSC A-52 audio streams. It works for me now, but I wish I did not have to install two different things to make it work.
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Old 18th December 2005, 21:53   #9
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Start > programs > ffdshow > audio decoder config > codecs
Make sure "mp1,mp2" is set to "libmad" (not disabled)
(if it says 'disabled', click on 'disabled' and change it to 'libmad')

Note, you can also use ffdshow for mpeg2 video (by changing it from 'disabled' to 'libavcodec' in the video decoder config)

ps. re: one of your above posts...
I no longer recommend using the buggy in_mplayer plugin
(that was like 2 years ago or something).
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Old 19th December 2005, 20:46   #10
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Start > programs > ffdshow > audio decoder config > codecs
Make sure "mp1,mp2" is set to "libmad" (not disabled)
(if it says 'disabled', click on 'disabled' and change it to 'libmad')

Note, you can also use ffdshow for mpeg2 video (by changing it from 'disabled' to 'libavcodec' in the video decoder config)
I'd love to be able to try ffdshow but it won't install for me no matter what I do. This is the error I get: http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/730...owerror6gu.gif

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ps. re: one of your above posts...
I no longer recommend using the buggy in_mplayer plugin
(that was like 2 years ago or something).
Okay understood, well it was just a post I came up with after a search on the subject, but anyway I wont need to use that one again.
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Old 19th December 2005, 21:44   #11
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Urghh, what's that? Windows 98? Looks to me like you wrongly downloaded the SSE version, whereas methinks you need just the plain vc7 version of ffdshow, heh.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download_...hp?d=1230&s=50

ps. don't checkmark any of the extra/optional components in the ffdshow installer options, just stick to the default components (ds filter, vfw interface, avisynth). Basically, one of the other optional components (avisynth scripts serving, virtualdub, dscaler, not sure which) causes an issue where winamp fails to initialize :/ (info)
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Urghh, what's that? Windows 98? Looks to me like you wrongly downloaded the SSE version, whereas methinks you need just the plain vc7 version of ffdshow, heh.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download_...hp?d=1230&s=50

ps. don't checkmark any of the extra/optional components in the ffdshow installer options, just stick to the default components (ds filter, vfw interface, avisynth). Basically, one of the other optional components (avisynth scripts serving, virtualdub, dscaler, not sure which) causes an issue where winamp fails to initialize :/ (info)
That's the version direct from the webpage given on the OP above for ffdshow, and it clearly shows it's for all windows OS's and so that's the one I used from its download button and it only gives the SSE version. I see now on another post that you referred me to that you recommended to someone else to download ffdshow from here instead: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm
..and so it is there I see more explanation about the program and as well explains about the SSE version compared to the MSVC version, which btw using cpuz I see I should be able to use the SSE version anyway as per my screenshot: http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3554/cpuz0pd.gif (Intel 3.2c GHz processor, etc)

Anyways, I just installed the MSVC version and I got pretty much the same error as per this screenshot:http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/4...owmsvc79sb.gif

I spose I could install it on W2K or XP and copy the necessary files and reg entries and make an install for 98SE, but really if it says it installs on W98SE then it should but it doesn't.. ..I see gaekwad talking in that other thread about using different compilers in other installers, and so I will try another install version from http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/ffdshow or something
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Old 20th December 2005, 00:03   #13
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Okay I choose 3 different installs from his different compiler links and installed seperately one by one: ffdshow-20051103.exe, ffdshow-20050930MSVC71.exe, and ffdshow-20050630.exe ..now they all installed with no errors this time, however, the first two would not actually play the video, but after installing the last one I tried and the oldest (ffdshow-20050630.exe) that did work and play the video. All the settings you told me about were already done. Yes btw between each and every install I reversed/uninstalled Everything that was done each time using an uninstaller, and even had a backup partition image waiting if I got into trouble but all this was easy stuff to remove. Okay, well enough time spent with this silly mpeg2 music video I wanted to watch and I'm movin on, but it was fun to learn/tinker and so was worth it.

thanks for the time
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....oh ps, and so I guess it does matter what compiler/installer was used for ffdshow like was said, at least for me it did anyway. Also fwiw, that little gpl mpeg1/2 directshow decoder mentioned before but needed an extra Elecard Audio Decoder, together, had just a very few files and a few registry entries to make it work, comparatively.
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Old 20th December 2005, 00:22   #14
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Hmm... strange.

Though where Windows 9x is concerned, anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

And yeah, I personally only ever link to ffdshow at free-codecs.com
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Old 20th December 2005, 02:35   #15
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http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/
for ac3 and mp2 audio, it doesnt get much better
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