Listing frozen on Shoutcast YP

bigjohn85 · 27th May 2006, 04:36

I recently switched to SAM Broadcaster from Winamp, and my YP listing seems to be frozen. It will not update, but instead stays frozen on the same song/listener count and will not update. I changed my station details via SAM's encoder, and the listing did not change.

I also tried going back to Winamp and updating it, and it still would not change.

Any ideas? Thanks!

Chris @ RCN · 27th May 2006, 05:00

This is a known problem, and the response of some is "lump it".

I personally hope that someone that can kick the server will do so, but since in the U.S. Monday is a holiday, Tuesday could be the earliest anything happens. It's been this way for a week at least.

LXMUS2007 · 27th May 2006, 11:38

um no it's been this way for like ...try going on 2 months!

Chris @ RCN · 27th May 2006, 15:56

I've sent Craig a PM and asked him to look into it. Remember, it IS a holiday weekend here in the US so it will be Tuesday until anything could happen.

Nick@ss · 27th May 2006, 16:45

All due respect chris but craig and all of the mods are aware of it,

This has been ongoing for months now...hence the get on with attitude has been adopted by most.

maybe now all the old programmers are no longer with nullsoft its a lack of technical abillity or maybe a lack of interest in something that doesnt earn any revenue,

Chris @ RCN · 27th May 2006, 17:21

Quote:

maybe a lack of interest in something that doesnt earn any revenue,

There is revenue generated by the banner ads. That ad inventory is sold by AOL to advertisers wanting to be part of the AOL network. Just read a book on the subject.

It would take, what, 2 - 5 minutes to reboot a few servers?

Nick@ss · 27th May 2006, 17:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris @ RCN
There is revenue generated by the banner ads. That ad inventory is sold by AOL to advertisers wanting to be part of the AOL network. Just read a book on the subject.

It would take, what, 2 - 5 minutes to reboot a few servers?

ok dont get me wrong as im not sticking up for nullsoft or anyone else here but that advertising space doesnt even earn 1% of aols income so not really a massive plus point for fixing the yp as a matter of urgency.

also you are working on the pretense that a reboot will work the magic but i imagine it isnt that simple in reality.

i just feel that although everyone has the right to voice their opinions that they are preaching to the choir and it will get done when it gets done.

Pie Man · 28th May 2006, 17:27

This has been mentioned before in another thread - but why not add yourself to another yp listing. It's FREE and looks nice:

http://www.streamfinder.com/index.php

sleepyhead87 · 28th May 2006, 19:23

You know somethmes, a simple reboot does help, but sometimes it doesn't either. Anyways, I don't think anythings wrong, everything seems working fine for me. Maybe you guys are just unlucky?

Tag · 29th May 2006, 01:09

We are having some issues with our slave databases's not syncing to the master. This will hopefully be fixed next week. I understand your frustation, but atleast you're being listed (so what if the metadata is old).

tuckerm · 29th May 2006, 01:27

Thanks Tag

B0b · 29th May 2006, 06:02

Thanks tag. It's nice to know that you guys are aware of, and are working to correct, the problem.

harryhelmit · 30th May 2006, 08:31

our station..is begin added but it still pointing us to a old connection from a few weeks ago...judging from the remarks here ..this problem hasnt been resolved.

CraigF · 30th May 2006, 08:51

I wouldnt expect it to. Its not yet business hours in Dulles.
Check if its working this time tomorrow.

CraigF · 30th May 2006, 08:55

To expand. The problem has not been ongoing for months, just the same symptoms for two seperate issues.

Prior to the new online services a different architecture was used to power the YP. There were quite a few problems with the database in this case, where by, after some failures, the system was rewritten to be properly load balanced.

The issue currently, as Tag has stated, is with the sync's between those database servers accepting inserts, and those returning the queries. Which is why your listing requests are currently working, but your actual listings are not being updated.

dj001 · 30th May 2006, 18:55

It's beyond annoying. It's completely constipated. Nobody is doing a thing about it. What amazes me is that Shoutcast continues running, without anybody actually involved in keeping it going.

dotme · 30th May 2006, 19:49

@dj001 - Did you not read this post? It's just six posts above your own...

Quote:

Originally posted by Tag
We are having some issues with our slave databases's not syncing to the master. This will hopefully be fixed next week. I understand your frustation, but atleast you're being listed (so what if the metadata is old).

dj001 · 30th May 2006, 20:00

Yes, it's like things written before on this problem, so I didn't feel like sitting there lamely waiting to see if there'd be any improvement.

CraigF · 30th May 2006, 22:37

So use some other software.

sleepyhead87 · 30th May 2006, 22:47

Quote:

Originally posted by dj001
Yes, it's like things written before on this problem, so I didn't feel like sitting there lamely waiting to see if there'd be any improvement.

Either shut up or help out. I doubt you can help either so if you're just going to sit there, sit there quietly like the rest of us. The team is working hard to fix it already so appreciate they even care. This is free software after all. Enjoy it.

Sure Quality · 31st May 2006, 01:10

Quote:

Originally posted by sleepyhead87
Either shut up or help out .... This is free software after all. Enjoy it.

Amen!

dj001 · 31st May 2006, 11:02

Quote:

Originally posted by sleepyhead87
Either shut up or help out.

Please let me know what I can do to help expedite the repair of this problem.

NJK · 31st May 2006, 16:49

Quote:

Originally posted by dj001
Please let me know what I can do to help expedite the repair of this problem.

would help a lot

officialuser · 1st June 2006, 04:03

Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a perminate problem.

Thanks again for all of the hard work.

intergalaktik · 1st June 2006, 06:34

Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a perminate problem.

Thanks again for all of the hard work.

harryhelmit · 2nd June 2006, 14:02

sorry to say but it still listing our station from a few weeks ago..
www.switch105fm.co.nr

intergalaktik · 2nd June 2006, 20:08

Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a permanent problem.

Thanks again for all of the hard work.

Sure Quality · 2nd June 2006, 22:55

We are not listed at all. (sigh)

Patiently standing by...

Evil Lu · 2nd June 2006, 23:16

Christ, who gives a toss? You're all relatively insane to rely on it at all.

SorceryKid · 3rd June 2006, 03:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Pie Man
This has been mentioned before in another thread - but why not add yourself to another yp listing. It's FREE and looks nice:

http://www.streamfinder.com/index.php

Interesting recommendation. I've tried different ISPs and gateways (on major backbones) yet the StreamFinder homepage always stalls and then times out after a minute. Just an observation.

Dark Shadow X · 3rd June 2006, 06:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Lu
You're all relatively insane to rely on it at all.

if thats the case, then why this site still exist on the net??

i've tried different measures on exposing my station and even i signed onto streamfinder and like i already said once before, theres hardly any listeners checking in like it was before this whole mess began.

i was told to have a website and advertise to get listeners - that didnt work.
obioulsy not all of us amature broadcasters have the big flashy websites, the latest hits or big feeds of bandwidth speed to try to compete with the big stations thats still listed on the YP (although its still frozen, but they are still listed regardless)

anyway just for the record i'll still run my station still, the reason being is i take it im on someones favorite list (judging that im seeing the same IP that pops up almost everyday), even though the majoity of my listeners mainly came the YP

thats my opinion on this whole problem, and to the one who is reading this (the one who put the "no whining" photo up) just to let you know is that im not whining or complaining, and to the one that said "if you rely on the YP for listeners, then you are not serious about broadcasting" to me this is a hobby to share my favorite music with anyone in the world, im not trying to be liek Digitaly Imported or any of the major online radio stations out there today.

im just stating the facts here in my point of view

NJK · 3rd June 2006, 06:37

you are in no way stating fact, you are giving your point of view.

your life isn't depending on the YP listing on shoutcast.com , so read what Tag wrote and wait.

it will be handled when there is time , it's not top priority

intergalaktik · 3rd June 2006, 06:43

Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a permanent problem.

Thanks again for all of the hard work.

Nick@ss · 3rd June 2006, 08:05

Quote:

Originally posted by intergalaktik
Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a permanent problem.

Thanks again for all of the hard work.

this is the 4th time you have posted this messege now?

i dont think this will make it get fixed any faster?

you and 14000 other servers have been effected by this now and they will fix it when they fix it

JE JaggedEdge · 3rd June 2006, 16:55

This particular problem has not been going on for months, it's been happening off and more ON for YEARS. LOL

JE

harryhelmit · 6th June 2006, 07:18

it looks like this will not be resolved ...in the near future if at all ,so maybe we should list a few sites that do work
http://www.no-ip.com/
works with acc+ and windows media(with plugin)and it will take a feed from winamp & if your running a website it can run direct from a website via a embedded player

CraigF · 6th June 2006, 08:55

Quote:

Originally posted by JE JaggedEdge
This particular problem has not been going on for months, it's been happening off and more ON for YEARS. LOL

JE

I already stated why that would be apparent.

bigbradio · 6th June 2006, 16:05

Relaying stopped working for me
but does anyone else have problems with getting kicked off air when connecting remotely?

dotme · 6th June 2006, 18:13

No problems getting kicked off the air, but yeah - for the past 48 hours two of my three bitrate streams have had broken clusters, and it's starting to create problems. Relay servers don't know where to redirect listeners when they are full.

All we can do is wait it out - maybe they had to pull everything apart to fix it. Ironically, stats are working again...

dj001 · 16th June 2006, 14:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Tag
We are having some issues with our slave databases's not syncing to the master. This will hopefully be fixed next week.

This was not fixed last week. Any new target on this?

27th May 2006, 04:36	#1
bigjohn85 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 25	Listing frozen on Shoutcast YP I recently switched to SAM Broadcaster from Winamp, and my YP listing seems to be frozen. It will not update, but instead stays frozen on the same song/listener count and will not update. I changed my station details via SAM's encoder, and the listing did not change. I also tried going back to Winamp and updating it, and it still would not change. Any ideas? Thanks!

27th May 2006, 16:45	#5
Nick@ss Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Streamsolutions Headquarters Posts: 11,953	All due respect chris but craig and all of the mods are aware of it, This has been ongoing for months now...hence the get on with attitude has been adopted by most. maybe now all the old programmers are no longer with nullsoft its a lack of technical abillity or maybe a lack of interest in something that doesnt earn any revenue, www.streamsolutions.co.uk SHOUTcast \| Flash Media \| Windows Media \| Icecast 2 \| Content Delivery \|

29th May 2006, 01:09	#10
Tag Streaming Media Expert Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 141	We are having some issues with our slave databases's not syncing to the master. This will hopefully be fixed next week. I understand your frustation, but atleast you're being listed (so what if the metadata is old). Powered by Redbull and Progressive House

29th May 2006, 01:27	#11
tuckerm Forum Emo Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,364	Thanks Tag @tuckerm

3rd June 2006, 06:37	#32
NJK FRISIAN (MOD) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: in a house Posts: 16,103	you are in no way stating fact, you are giving your point of view. your life isn't depending on the YP listing on shoutcast.com , so read what Tag wrote and wait. it will be handled when there is time , it's not top priority Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music. WINAMP SHOUTCAST

27th May 2006, 05:00	#2
Chris @ RCN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Rochester, MN US Posts: 280	This is a known problem, and the response of some is "lump it". I personally hope that someone that can kick the server will do so, but since in the U.S. Monday is a holiday, Tuesday could be the earliest anything happens. It's been this way for a week at least.

27th May 2006, 11:38	#3
LXMUS2007 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15	um no it's been this way for like ...try going on 2 months!

27th May 2006, 15:56	#4
Chris @ RCN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Rochester, MN US Posts: 280	I've sent Craig a PM and asked him to look into it. Remember, it IS a holiday weekend here in the US so it will be Tuesday until anything could happen.

28th May 2006, 17:27	#8
Pie Man Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 76	This has been mentioned before in another thread - but why not add yourself to another yp listing. It's FREE and looks nice: http://www.streamfinder.com/index.php

28th May 2006, 19:23	#9
sleepyhead87 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6	You know somethmes, a simple reboot does help, but sometimes it doesn't either. Anyways, I don't think anythings wrong, everything seems working fine for me. Maybe you guys are just unlucky?

29th May 2006, 06:02	#12
B0b Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 222	Thanks tag. It's nice to know that you guys are aware of, and are working to correct, the problem.

30th May 2006, 08:31	#13
harryhelmit Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	our station..is begin added but it still pointing us to a old connection from a few weeks ago...judging from the remarks here ..this problem hasnt been resolved.

30th May 2006, 08:51	#14
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	I wouldnt expect it to. Its not yet business hours in Dulles. Check if its working this time tomorrow.

30th May 2006, 08:55	#15
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	To expand. The problem has not been ongoing for months, just the same symptoms for two seperate issues. Prior to the new online services a different architecture was used to power the YP. There were quite a few problems with the database in this case, where by, after some failures, the system was rewritten to be properly load balanced. The issue currently, as Tag has stated, is with the sync's between those database servers accepting inserts, and those returning the queries. Which is why your listing requests are currently working, but your actual listings are not being updated.

30th May 2006, 18:55	#16
dj001 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Who's asking? Posts: 452	It's beyond annoying. It's completely constipated. Nobody is doing a thing about it. What amazes me is that Shoutcast continues running, without anybody actually involved in keeping it going.

30th May 2006, 20:00	#18
dj001 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Who's asking? Posts: 452	Yes, it's like things written before on this problem, so I didn't feel like sitting there lamely waiting to see if there'd be any improvement.

30th May 2006, 22:37	#19
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	So use some other software.

1st June 2006, 04:03	#24
officialuser Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13	Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a perminate problem. Thanks again for all of the hard work.

1st June 2006, 06:34	#25
intergalaktik Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Outter Space Posts: 6	Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a perminate problem. Thanks again for all of the hard work.

2nd June 2006, 14:02	#26
harryhelmit Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	sorry to say but it still listing our station from a few weeks ago.. www.switch105fm.co.nr

2nd June 2006, 20:08	#27
intergalaktik Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Outter Space Posts: 6	Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a permanent problem. Thanks again for all of the hard work.

2nd June 2006, 22:55	#28
Sure Quality Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	We are not listed at all. (sigh) Patiently standing by...

2nd June 2006, 23:16	#29
Evil Lu Forum Maitresse Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: I'm hiding under your bed Posts: 2,974	Christ, who gives a toss? You're all relatively insane to rely on it at all.

3rd June 2006, 06:43	#33
intergalaktik Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Outter Space Posts: 6	Thanks for the continued support of this, I have been effected by this as well, and I am glad to know that it shouldn't be a permanent problem. Thanks again for all of the hard work.

3rd June 2006, 16:55	#35
JE JaggedEdge Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 415	This particular problem has not been going on for months, it's been happening off and more ON for YEARS. LOL JE .::.(())::. Urban Hitz Radio™ USA .::.(())::. The People' Choice for Hip-Hop & R&B! Listen to Urban Hitz Radio - GET A Local or TOLL-FREE Request Line NOW...Only $2 Monthly Request Line: 1-855 588-6767

6th June 2006, 07:18	#36
harryhelmit Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	it looks like this will not be resolved ...in the near future if at all ,so maybe we should list a few sites that do work http://www.no-ip.com/ works with acc+ and windows media(with plugin)and it will take a feed from winamp & if your running a website it can run direct from a website via a embedded player

6th June 2006, 16:05	#38
bigbradio Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1	Relaying stopped working for me but does anyone else have problems with getting kicked off air when connecting remotely?

6th June 2006, 18:13	#39
dotme Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 4,024	No problems getting kicked off the air, but yeah - for the past 48 hours two of my three bitrate streams have had broken clusters, and it's starting to create problems. Relay servers don't know where to redirect listeners when they are full. All we can do is wait it out - maybe they had to pull everything apart to fix it. Ironically, stats are working again... Atlantic Sound Factory Licensed by StreamLicensing \| Powered by Fast Serv \| Radionomy Broadcaster

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