newest version of winamp likes to crash a lot when editing id3 tags

Mr_Sako · 15th June 2006, 16:23

i don't know if anyone else has been getting this but since the latest version my winamp crashes alot, mainly when im updatnig id3 tags and stuff itll crash at random times.

I don't know if anyone else has been catching this but winamp just seems to becoming less stable with each version. Im about to downgrade to an older version, does anyone remeber the version of winamp right before the new media library icons came out? i remeber i had no problems with that one

DrO · 15th June 2006, 16:28

5.13

-daz

amano · 15th June 2006, 22:06

http://www.winampheaven.net/old.php

osmosis · 16th June 2006, 19:53

i agree with the id3 tag crashing. for me it seemed to correlate more with id3v2. i'll report more on it as i see it.

retchless · 17th June 2006, 15:33

I've had tagging crashes as well. And they appear to be random. This has been happening for me since 5.21. Originally, the bug appeared to correlate with copying from ID3v2 to v1, but I'm not so sure anymore.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=240920

bemymonkey · 19th June 2006, 21:04

Mine does the tagging crashes too, but I've been living with that since around 5.08 or so...

DJ Egg · 19th June 2006, 21:26

Does it still happen after a clean install with no 3rd-party plugins?

Post a list of all plugins (including defaults) c/o a my_plugins_list.txt as generated by DrO's gen_nunzio plugin (see here for info/instructions)

The same thing used to happen to me quite a bit, especially when an Explorer window was open which contained the files I was editing at the time (damn WinXP and it's Tiles/Info views). But it hasn't happened to me since I disabled a few 3rd-party plugins I never used, and updated a few others.

nimd4 · 20th June 2006, 04:41

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
especially when an Explorer window was open which contained the files I was editing at the time

Yup that's it!

Thanks ..

bemymonkey · 20th June 2006, 08:58

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Does it still happen after a clean install with no 3rd-party plugins?

Post a list of all plugins (including defaults) c/o a my_plugins_list.txt as generated by DrO's gen_nunzio plugin (see here for info/instructions)

The same thing used to happen to me quite a bit, especially when an Explorer window was open which contained the files I was editing at the time (damn WinXP and it's Tiles/Info views). But it hasn't happened to me since I disabled a few 3rd-party plugins I never used, and updated a few others.

Here's my plugin list. It's difficult to test with a clean install because it doesn't always happen - seems to be pretty random. Still happens pretty often though, usually when editing the same field in lots of files at once...

retchless · 20th June 2006, 14:55

Ah ha! Good call on the Windows Explorer business. I haven't had any crashes while explorer windows are closed. Does this behavior constitute a bug? Theoretically, Winamp should fail gracefully in this case, or detect file locks, and wait a few seconds for them to free up.

ViPPeR_666 · 24th June 2006, 11:26

So, is this a bug or what?

My winamp is crashing too, just like the way you guys said.
I've been using Winamp since version 1.x n' I've never had any error such as this one.

Btw, I've also tryed to close all explorer's windows, but this error insists.

PS: I'm using version 5.24

DJ Egg · 24th June 2006, 11:31

@ViPPeR_666

Well, like everyone else in this thread, maybe you can confirm whether it only happens when the files you're editing are also open in an Explorer window at the time? If not, then your issue is being caused by something else, ie. different to the cause for everyone else in this thread.

@bemymonkey

If it's been crashing since 5.08, then it's more than likely some 3rd-party plugin to blame, because the problem seemed to appear around the 5.2x versions for just about everyone else here (including me).

Does it still crash after removing/disabling all these 3rd-party plugins?
Monkey's Audio Player v4.01 [in_APE.dll]
WinLIRC Plugin 0.4 [GEN_IR.DLL]
MessengerAmp v2.2 (gen_msn.dll)
Play Tracking Replacement v0.4 [gen_pcfix.dll]
AudioScrobbler for Winamp v1.1.10 (ML Mode) [ml_audioscrobbler.dll]
gUSB v1 build 005 [ml_gusb_us.dll]

ViPPeR_666 · 24th June 2006, 11:41

@DJ Egg

I'm afraid to tell you that this is not, apparentaly, a problem with the plugins. I have these plugins since version 4.x n' I've never had any sort of error.

This is the first time. What do you think I should do?

Oh yea, I've also tryed to close all explorer windows, including mIRC (lol?). N' this error just keeps on.

DJ Egg · 24th June 2006, 11:45

What plugins? You haven't even posted a plugin list, heh (see above).

If a newer version of Winamp starts crashing for no apparent reason, then the first place to look is always at 3rd-party plugins. As certain (core) changes are made to Winamp, then some 3rd-party plugins can become broken, and therefore the author(s) of said plugin(s) need to update them to make them compatible again.

btw, there was no Winamp 4.x

ViPPeR_666 · 24th June 2006, 11:51

I've deleted all my plugins. There's only one left:

[moo] Announce

Btw, I couldn't find his dll name.

bemymonkey · 24th June 2006, 11:53

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
@bemymonkey

If it's been crashing since 5.08, then it's more than likely some 3rd-party plugin to blame, because the problem seemed to appear around the 5.2x versions for just about everyone else here (including me).

Does it still crash after removing/disabling all these 3rd-party plugins?
Monkey's Audio Player v4.01 [in_APE.dll]
WinLIRC Plugin 0.4 [GEN_IR.DLL]
MessengerAmp v2.2 (gen_msn.dll)
Play Tracking Replacement v0.4 [gen_pcfix.dll]
AudioScrobbler for Winamp v1.1.10 (ML Mode) [ml_audioscrobbler.dll]
gUSB v1 build 005 [ml_gusb_us.dll] [/B]

I've removed the plugins and I'm testing now... By the way, how do you "disable" a plugin without uninstalling it? Thanks for the continued efforts to help! This forum would be dead without you, heheh.

DJ Egg · 24th June 2006, 11:59

The easiest way is to close Winamp, and then go to the Winamp\Plugins folder and rename the respective plugins to something like gen_msn.dll.off

(of course, it helps to know the filenames of said 3rd-party plugins first).

This way you can always easily re-enable them at a later date by renaming them back again (ie. with no need to do an official uninstall/reinstall).

bemymonkey · 24th June 2006, 12:04

Aaaaaah, now why didn't I think of that? lol

Thanks for the tip

Bubba Smith · 24th June 2006, 12:59

Quote:

Originally posted by ViPPeR_666
I've deleted all my plugins. There's only one left:

[moo] Announce

Btw, I couldn't find his dll name.

Well, that gen_nunzio plugin that Egg mentioned above will show the actual name of the plugin (.dll) and the text file generated will show it as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
Post a list of all plugins (including defaults) c/o a my_plugins_list.txt as generated by DrO's gen_nunzio plugin (see here for info/instructions)

tankexmortis · 24th June 2006, 17:11

This is happening to me as well, as I posted here. As far as I can tell it's not caused by any plugin.

DJ Egg · 24th June 2006, 17:21

@ tankexmortis

So it's nothing to do with having an Explorer window open containing the files that you're editing at the time (as was the case with just about everyone else who posted in this thread)?

Also, unless you post a my_plugin_list.txt log, then there's no way for us to know if it's being caused by a 3rd-party plugin or not.

@ bemymonkey

Any joy since disabling those plugins? Or does it still crash?

tankexmortis · 25th June 2006, 14:01

No, it happens even without any Explorer windows open. As for the plugins, I disabled everything without "Nullsoft" in front of it's name and got the same error. I'm assuming that's all of the third party plugins?

bemymonkey · 25th June 2006, 14:05

It's still crashing :-(... not that this is going to impair my Winamp usage ;-)...

Guess I'm gonna have to start using ID3-Tagit more often...

tankexmortis · 22nd July 2006, 23:18

New development: recently, after crashing, upon reopening Winamp it takes longer than usual to load, and then it immediately freezes.
This is really frustrating. If the next update (or someone's kind help) doesn't fix this problem I'm giving up and switching to (ugh) iTunes.

tankexmortis · 23rd July 2006, 02:48

Nevermind, a clean install fixed the random freezing. Still having the original problem, of course.

DJ Egg · 23rd July 2006, 06:21

The 'random crashing when editing id3 tags' issue is fixed for 5.25

15th June 2006, 16:23	#1
Mr_Sako Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 70	newest version of winamp likes to crash alot i don't know if anyone else has been getting this but since the latest version my winamp crashes alot, mainly when im updatnig id3 tags and stuff itll crash at random times. I don't know if anyone else has been catching this but winamp just seems to becoming less stable with each version. Im about to downgrade to an older version, does anyone remeber the version of winamp right before the new media library icons came out? i remeber i had no problems with that one

15th June 2006, 16:28	#2
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	5.13 -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

15th June 2006, 22:06	#3
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16th June 2006, 19:53	#4
osmosis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cananada Posts: 841	i agree with the id3 tag crashing. for me it seemed to correlate more with id3v2. i'll report more on it as i see it. Request: A little SmartView Query Language love.

19th June 2006, 21:04	#6
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Mine does the tagging crashes too, but I've been living with that since around 5.08 or so... Weeeeeeeeeeee

17th June 2006, 15:33	#5
retchless Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 97	I've had tagging crashes as well. And they appear to be random. This has been happening for me since 5.21. Originally, the bug appeared to correlate with copying from ID3v2 to v1, but I'm not so sure anymore. http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=240920

19th June 2006, 21:26	#7
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Does it still happen after a clean install with no 3rd-party plugins? Post a list of all plugins (including defaults) c/o a my_plugins_list.txt as generated by DrO's gen_nunzio plugin (see here for info/instructions) The same thing used to happen to me quite a bit, especially when an Explorer window was open which contained the files I was editing at the time (damn WinXP and it's Tiles/Info views). But it hasn't happened to me since I disabled a few 3rd-party plugins I never used, and updated a few others. Playlist -\|- Twitter

20th June 2006, 14:55	#10
retchless Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 97	Ah ha! Good call on the Windows Explorer business. I haven't had any crashes while explorer windows are closed. Does this behavior constitute a bug? Theoretically, Winamp should fail gracefully in this case, or detect file locks, and wait a few seconds for them to free up.

24th June 2006, 11:26	#11
ViPPeR_666 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maceió, AL - Brazil Posts: 3	So, is this a bug or what? My winamp is crashing too, just like the way you guys said. I've been using Winamp since version 1.x n' I've never had any error such as this one. Btw, I've also tryed to close all explorer's windows, but this error insists. PS: I'm using version 5.24

24th June 2006, 11:31	#12
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	@ViPPeR_666 Well, like everyone else in this thread, maybe you can confirm whether it only happens when the files you're editing are also open in an Explorer window at the time? If not, then your issue is being caused by something else, ie. different to the cause for everyone else in this thread. @bemymonkey If it's been crashing since 5.08, then it's more than likely some 3rd-party plugin to blame, because the problem seemed to appear around the 5.2x versions for just about everyone else here (including me). Does it still crash after removing/disabling all these 3rd-party plugins? Monkey's Audio Player v4.01 [in_APE.dll] WinLIRC Plugin 0.4 [GEN_IR.DLL] MessengerAmp v2.2 (gen_msn.dll) Play Tracking Replacement v0.4 [gen_pcfix.dll] AudioScrobbler for Winamp v1.1.10 (ML Mode) [ml_audioscrobbler.dll] gUSB v1 build 005 [ml_gusb_us.dll] Playlist -\|- Twitter

24th June 2006, 11:41	#13
ViPPeR_666 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maceió, AL - Brazil Posts: 3	@DJ Egg I'm afraid to tell you that this is not, apparentaly, a problem with the plugins. I have these plugins since version 4.x n' I've never had any sort of error. This is the first time. What do you think I should do? Oh yea, I've also tryed to close all explorer windows, including mIRC (lol?). N' this error just keeps on.

24th June 2006, 11:45	#14
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	What plugins? You haven't even posted a plugin list, heh (see above). If a newer version of Winamp starts crashing for no apparent reason, then the first place to look is always at 3rd-party plugins. As certain (core) changes are made to Winamp, then some 3rd-party plugins can become broken, and therefore the author(s) of said plugin(s) need to update them to make them compatible again. btw, there was no Winamp 4.x Playlist -\|- Twitter

24th June 2006, 11:51	#15
ViPPeR_666 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maceió, AL - Brazil Posts: 3	I've deleted all my plugins. There's only one left: [moo] Announce Btw, I couldn't find his dll name.

24th June 2006, 11:59	#17
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	The easiest way is to close Winamp, and then go to the Winamp\Plugins folder and rename the respective plugins to something like gen_msn.dll.off (of course, it helps to know the filenames of said 3rd-party plugins first). This way you can always easily re-enable them at a later date by renaming them back again (ie. with no need to do an official uninstall/reinstall). Playlist -\|- Twitter

24th June 2006, 12:04	#18
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Aaaaaah, now why didn't I think of that? lol Thanks for the tip Weeeeeeeeeeee

24th June 2006, 17:11	#20
tankexmortis Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	This is happening to me as well, as I posted here. As far as I can tell it's not caused by any plugin.

24th June 2006, 17:21	#21
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	@ tankexmortis So it's nothing to do with having an Explorer window open containing the files that you're editing at the time (as was the case with just about everyone else who posted in this thread)? Also, unless you post a my_plugin_list.txt log, then there's no way for us to know if it's being caused by a 3rd-party plugin or not. @ bemymonkey Any joy since disabling those plugins? Or does it still crash? Playlist -\|- Twitter

25th June 2006, 14:05	#23
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	It's still crashing :-(... not that this is going to impair my Winamp usage ;-)... Guess I'm gonna have to start using ID3-Tagit more often... Weeeeeeeeeeee

22nd July 2006, 23:18	#24
tankexmortis Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	New development: recently, after crashing, upon reopening Winamp it takes longer than usual to load, and then it immediately freezes. This is really frustrating. If the next update (or someone's kind help) doesn't fix this problem I'm giving up and switching to (ugh) iTunes.

23rd July 2006, 02:48	#25
tankexmortis Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Nevermind, a clean install fixed the random freezing. Still having the original problem, of course.

23rd July 2006, 06:21	#26
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	The 'random crashing when editing id3 tags' issue is fixed for 5.25 Playlist -\|- Twitter

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