Winamp 5.24 Released

[osmosis]

hmm. so my media library mysteriously corrupted itself..

[shakey_snake]

Originally posted by DJ Egg
If no-one answers, it usually means that no-one knows.

Grazie.

[amano]

If the control over the ML components in the installer is planned, I would suggest that the burning/ripping ML component is linked to the sonic engine. Because only those who want to burn and rip will want to have this engine. So install the engine silently if one chooses to install ripping and burning support. Otherwise not. That would be a clean solution.

One other gripe with the installer: There is no real control over the output plugin. On XP I would want to install just out_ds and not out_wave. But I can just disable out_ds in the installer. A clearer way would be to show both plugins with out_ds greyed out on 2000/xp/vista and out_wave greyed out on 95/98/me. That makes sure that nobody disables the recommended output plugin by thinking that it would't be necessary. This might happen on xp and a non tech-savy person would't notice because out_wave would work as well (somehow).

[ontobrokenglass]

Hi, I hope this is the right place to post this in. I've tried downloading Winamp 5.23 from the previous version before it and I'm having troubles (ah I'm mad that I downloaded the new version cause it screwed up Winamp on my computer.) Everytime I try downloading it a message pops up saying there is an error opening certain files for writing, like C:\Program Files\Winamp.exe, for example. If I ignore those files the program is screwed up.

I tried to uninstall the program, except it didn't help. Some of the files can't be deleted from my computer. Hah well I'm not sure if any of that made sense.. basically I'm having troubles downloading the new version and I was wondering how I could get it to work? I don't know that much about computers so I have no idea what to do.

[Edit --> DJ Egg]
No, as stated in bold text in the first post in this thread, this isn't the correct place to post about such issues.
Start a new thread in Tech Support intsead.
That error message usually occurs if the winamp.exe process is still running. Kill it in Task Manager first, then try running the installer again.

[kzuse]

Are you logged in as a user?

Make sure you have writing rights in the Winamp folder.

Try to log on as an administrator.

Regards,
kzuse

[Logy]

is it true dvd functions will be a feature on next version 5.2xx...!

[DrO]

doubtful as things stand now i'd say since what had been developed before 5.2 was buggy and there were some licensing issues which i think killed the thing.

-daz

[jmbattle]

I have a query about the ML and portable devices. I notice that when connecting my MP3 player whilst WinAMP is open, the interface does not respond for a few seconds - probably because WinAMP is syncing with the player. This isn't unexpected however, in my opinion, I do not believe this should happen until the ML window is visible. Perhaps an option for 'Do not sync portable devices until opening ML' would be a worthwhile addition?

Anyway, now that I have mentioned that, Logy, Brazil, yes. England, probably not - did you see us play yesterday against Trinidad & Tobago yesterday? Quite awful. ;( Almost as bad as your local Terengganu football side! Actually, I had quite a lovely few days there a couple of years ago, a nice bustling city.

Take care,
James
x

[Logy]

offtopic...
my local footbal side... (@*sigh!)
it is extremely bad as compare as england side... at least england has beckham and many times qualified to world cup, my country Malaysia, may be next 20 years, to qualified world cup football !
adios!

[pEar 242]

Since version 5.22 Winamp does not display cyrillics in MAKI scripts (blanks are displayed). I so liked this opportunity, but now I cannot use it.
Why? In the following version this to appear?

As I use cyrillics in MAKI.
1.) I translate on Russian, using latin letters MAKI a file, for example: Play > Vosproizvedenie (translation)
2.) I Use Script Compiler what to make MAKI.
3.) C the help of program WinHex I replace a Latin with cyrillics, not breaking program code Vosproizvedenie > Âîñïðîèçâåäåíèå.


I very much ask to return this opportunity. Please.
Sorry for my Ebglish.

crosspost

[sonic7]

I've just updated from 5.21 and noticed a very annoying Bug (?).
Seems like Winamp is way too quiet now.
I'm usually listen to harder Stuff, like Techno, Hardcore and so on and the Bass etc. isnt the same anymore sounds kinda like "dully" dunno how to explain that.
No matter what EQ's im using its always the same Problem, any1 else noticed that?

[amano]

Hmm. With Winamp 5.23 benski disabled the (crappy) built-in MP3 EQ by default. So MP3 files use the much better global EQ.

But it might sound different with the existing presets. Maybe this is what you experience?

Just give it a try. in the configuration of the MPEG Audio plugin: on the decoder tab see if the "Fast Layer 3" checkbox is checked. But note that checking the box means that you use an inferior EQ. But maybe this isn't noticeable with this kind of music.

[pEar 242]

Winamp loses the positions. To me sadly to realize it. Not so long ago Winamp was the best not only on the user interface, but also on sounding, unfortunately it every day to become history. There are new versions of known programs which differ better sounding, for example WMP 11, the list can be continued.
What is necessary, what Winamp would become better?
The equalizer works on known only Nullsoft to the scheme with the doubtful scheme of processing of a signal and an arrangement of adjustable frequencies (strips eq). (Adjustment with 60hz for a bass it is ridiculous WMP11 begins with 31 hz and adjustment of high frequencies it is excessive 12,14,16 Khz what for, the same effect can achieve more greater intervals 12, 16 Khz for example). For example eq shoober 2000 it is constructed on the module supereq why it to not use Nullsoft? I do not use the majority of innovations in general, to me is necessary beautiful, convenient and well sounding media player and in its person I wish to see Winamp. Problems with internalization (I post above) too causes problems. Improve quality of sounding, having taken for an example shoober 2000. And at last make normal human playlist with normal slider with buttons scroll up and scroll down as in module Album List.
I know at you it to turn out! And Winamp becomes the best! The best media player on the Earth, again!

Pay attention to this message, this opinion not of one user, believe.
Sorry for my English.

[gaekwad2]

There is a Shibatch SuperEQ plugin, it even includes a parametric eq (unlike foobar).

[crossover]

Hey, my first post here
I was very disappointed when I installed Winamp 5.23. The jump to file box didn't work properly here, it had some kind of lag. When I tried to install 5.20 a little later, it did not work. A few days later it did work, but all my settings were gone.
It was a pretty big mistake, Winamp 5.23.

[DJ Egg]

The 'lag' (and 'fix') is referenced all over the place on the forums (example), and was implemented to improve performance with large playlists (Without the 'lag' I get a 20 second or more pause after typing the first letter in the search field, with my 25,000+ playlist. With the 'lag' I only get a ~250ms pause).

If you've got a smaller playlist, then you can remove the 'lag' by editing/adding this value in the [Jump To File Extra] section of winamp.ini

jtfe_search_delay=

eg. hidden/hard-coded default value is:
jtfe_search_delay=250

I've got mine set to 375 (which works best for me), but you probably want to set yours to anything between 0 and 100ms

[amano]

Originally posted by amano
If the control over the ML components in the installer is planned, I would suggest that the burning/ripping ML component is linked to the sonic engine. Because only those who want to burn and rip will want to have this engine. So install the engine silently if one chooses to install ripping and burning support. Otherwise not. That would be a clean solution.

One other gripe with the installer: There is no real control over the output plugin. On XP I would want to install just out_ds and not out_wave. But I can just disable out_ds in the installer. A clearer way would be to show both plugins with out_ds greyed out on 2000/xp/vista and out_wave greyed out on 95/98/me. That makes sure that nobody disables the recommended output plugin by thinking that it would't be necessary. This might happen on xp and a non tech-savy person would't notice because out_wave would work as well (somehow).

To continue my installer thoughts: I don't know the agreement with predixis und thus don't know if it would be possible but if the predixis plugin was diabled by default in the installer and a nice "currently broken" message was put next to it, maybe predixis could be motivated enough to fix their stuff?

[DrO]

Originally posted by amano
maybe predixis could be motivated enough to fix their stuff?

that's the funniest thing i've seen for a while from experience so far (including registering on their forums to offer help/feedback) they've never seemed at all interested in working on the winamp plugin (the cpu hogging is just not acceptable especially if it can cripple a high spec current machine) so i really doubt anything is going to happen from how it's gone before with them. just not having the thing in there would help drop the installer back towards 5Mb and would help cut the ram usage of winamp (it's one of the worse ones for mem bloat in the player)

-daz

[amano]

I wouldn't mind removing it completely. Since it isn't usable, probably nobody wouldn't mind (maybe not even predixis?). Just make the installer remove the current plugin.

[DrO]

if only it was that simple since i'm sure there's some sort of dodgy agreement in place which is why it's in there in the first place. all i can say is that the feature was a extreme let down from what it had been made out to be but there we go

-daz

[DJ Egg]

21st June 2006 : 5.24 released
winamp.exe = 5.2.4.703 | in_midi.dll updated (info)
Everything else is exactly the same as 5.23
Main post in thread updated accordingly.

[amano]

Now announced on Betanews.

A quick update obviously since the Secunia report is from today. So congrats for the zero day delay.

[DrO]

and it was listed on neowin.net before we'd even had confirmation of the files being on the download servers (damn they're quick, heh)

-daz

[COtto1984]

Nevermind, found my answer.

[Logy]

Originally posted by DrO
and it was listed on neowin.net before we'd even had confirmation of the files being on the download servers (damn they're quick, heh)

-daz

where? i found nothing on that site... or it has remove!



i thing the next version will be essential bugfixes... ahaks!

or may be a new features added! heheeeee!!!

adios...!

[DrO]

it's in their forums and the 'back page news' section

-daz

[Invulner]

new winamp turned all my playlist stored radio channel names into IP addresses.

[lexel]

I've installed the full version of 5.24, but the "Open file window" in 'All supported types' mode still does not show MOD file.

But when i switch it to 'Music Modules' mode, it does show!

[drewbar]

It's a Windows issue, actually.

14. Missing extensions under "All supported formats" in Open File dialog.
Windows bug. You can 'fix' it by removing input plugins you don't use and/or unassociating less important extensions in MIDI, MOD and WAV input plugin configurations.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....did=161361#ofd

[Kieran Walker]

Semi-random question.

Should Winamp be cutting off midi files several seconds before the end? It's been doing this since I installed 5.24, on every midi file I've got.

[DJ Egg]

Try the updated in_midi.dll
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....156839#regress

[amano]

Since this was discussed in this thread:

Winamp 5.25 will not ship with predixis anymore. YAY!

see http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=156839

This will bring down the download size significantly.

Another suggestion to bring it further down: What about shipping a 48kbps demo.aac (or even smaller?) file instead of the 56 kbps demo.mp3? aacPlus is supported through the in_mp3 plugin and aacPlus is advertised by Winamp on winamp.com. It would make some sense for me.

Just make the installer script remove the mp3 file.

[Bubba Smith]

Originally posted by amano
Winamp 5.25 will not ship with predixis anymore. YAY!

Thank God for that. It's total crap.

[DrO]

but but it was so... oh what the hell, it was shite (it had to be if i went as far as coding something to remove it, heh)

-daz

[Bubba Smith]

LOL!

[kzuse]

What about shipping a 48kbps demo.aac

This is a great idea I think. Wasn't it even in version 5.1 ("surround edition" ;-) that demo.aac was installed instead of demo.mp3?

I think it has only advantages: The file would be smaller but still in a better quality (if HE-AAC is used), and AAC is the "better", "more modern", "more stylish" ;-) format...

Best regards,
kzuse

[siebe83]

I hope they still have the original, or they'd need to transcode

(btw, the demo.aac that came with Winamp 5.1 was a special surround version, with 6 channels: 155 kB, instead of the 38 kB demo.mp3)

[billyvnilly]

something i just noticed on the predixis forums. it now says player plugins (it seems they have made a plugin for WMP 10)

adios predixis, you will be missed

[kzuse]

(btw, the demo.aac that came with Winamp 5.1 was a special surround version, with 6 channels: 155 kB, instead of the 38 kB demo.mp3)

oh, yes you're right... Nah, that wouldn't actually be necessary, just a new one in normal Stereo HE-AAC format (smaller but better would be great!

Maybe someone could even invent a new sound? I mean the slogan is cool but somehow the "how it is made" remembers me a little bit of a trailer for a small radio station with 5 listeners

Regards,
kzuse

[Kieran Walker]

Egg: Thank you kindly. Working fine now.