Any pmp_usb.dll developments please?

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by danburd
I deleted all of the files in a folder using Winamp's "remove from device" context menu option, and the folder remained on the portable device, empty. I have "remove empty folders" checked in config.

I'm running Winamp 5.24 with Windows XP, probably with the latest Service Pack, whichever that is (I don't know how to check). I also don't know how to view or change device permissions, perhaps someone could tell me. Also, the device I'm using is a Samsung YP-MT6X.

Thanks for your help!

Hmm, ok... I fixed one bug with this for the next release. The bug had to do with anything where a track number of zero or a blank field was used to create a folder.

To make sure i get your bug with this, can you post your file naming format from config, please?

[jmbattle]

Well, WinAMP dies when I reconnect my MP3 player. Yet, sometimes it will remain open, but take the best part of a minute to 'sync' the device (and refresh the ML).

Could you perhaps make a debug version available to find the cause of this problem, please?

Cheers,
James
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[jmbattle]

I have just noticed that my old 128mb USB1.x clip drive is correctly detected by WinAMP automatically - I do not need to configure anything, manually 'connect' the drive, or reconnect the device whilst WinAMP is open.

So it would obviously appear that my iAudio M3 operates in a different way. Perhaps worth noting is that the M3 mounts under windows as a 'Local Disk' type, whilst the 128mb clip drive appears as a 'Removable Disk' - both have different icons in Windows Explorer. Is this relevant?

Cheers,
James
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[danburd]

E:\<Album>\<filename> is my file naming format.

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by jmbattle
I have just noticed that my old 128mb USB1.x clip drive is correctly detected by WinAMP automatically - I do not need to configure anything, manually 'connect' the drive, or reconnect the device whilst WinAMP is open.

So it would obviously appear that my iAudio M3 operates in a different way. Perhaps worth noting is that the M3 mounts under windows as a 'Local Disk' type, whilst the 128mb clip drive appears as a 'Removable Disk' - both have different icons in Windows Explorer. Is this relevant?

Cheers,
James
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Ah, I was just discussing that i thought this might be the case with will yesterday. Thanks for confirming it . Right now in order to not detect local hard drives, pmp_usb does not detect hard drives on startup. However, it will pick them up if it detects a device change, because this would be a removable drive.

I am currently working on a way for pmp_usb to remember that you have previously manually connected a drive, and load it on startup.

One thing that would help - does your HD player get classified as a "USB Mass Storage Device" in its drivers?

[jmbattle]

One thing that would help - does your HD player get classified as a "USB Mass Storage Device" in its drivers?

I'm afraid I do not know - I cannot see any categories of this time in device manager; the player simply mounts as a disk drive.



I hope this helps.
Cheers,
James
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[Soundrs]

Yeah, that helps, your device is a USB mass storage device. It should be remembered after a manual connect in the next release.

[statik213]

Originally posted by Soundrs
I added an auto-delete folders option to the config screen. I have it on by default because it only deletes a folder when you delete a track in winamp and its the last track in the folder.

Changes since v0.2:
-Metadata caching through xml file
-Metadata for tracks now stored in memory
-Optimized playback of tracks (Winamp 5.25+)
-Improved configuration window (several GUI/functionality changes)
-Fixed handling of multiple devices in configuration window
-Fixed supported tracks edit box
-Media Library device view now longer shows unsupported track data
-Auto-delete empty folders option added to config

Let me know of any features you would like added or bugs you would like to see fixed.

Been looking forward to something like this, it works great with my creative muvo.
What is the "official" location of this plugin?

[Red Mullet]

pmp_usb.dll is very nifty & clean in winamp 5.24 latest version.
Check latest version till you enjoy it.
Cheers japanese boy/girl

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by statik213
Been looking forward to something like this, it works great with my creative muvo.
What is the "official" location of this plugin?

There is no official location yet... we are still in beta for now. What I can do is give you the latest version though Sorry its been a while, forgot to release the latest version on here. Its been up on internal beta for a while now. Just a couple of things fixed:

pmp_usb.dll

Changes since v0.3
-Plugin will now remember devices that you have manually connected if they had songs on them
-Fixed bug with purging empty folders
-probably some other stuff that I cant remember offhand..

[edit: attachment removed, get latest winamp]

[jmbattle]

Excellent job Sounders!

WinAmp picks up my iAudio and now automatically loads the database into the ML. It takes a little while (over 30secs for nearly 3000 tracks), but I hope this can improve once the db is locally cached.

I did notice WinAmp died when physically disconnecting and reconnecting the drive, however.

Please keep the updates coming!

Cheers!
James (struggling with a broken laptop keyboard...)
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[Logy]

just a wish... dev team!
if you have add the name of usb drive if will be nice, very confusing if only have alphabet name...
adios!

[KnifeFed]

Hey.
I'm using this in conjunction with a SonyEricsson W810i and everything seems fine, as in it finds the device and I can browse the media, but when I press sync nothing happens. Nothing at all.

[jmbattle]

Yes, an option to rename devices would be great.

Please allow the columns (artist, album etc.) to be configurable also.

Cheers, take care,
James
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[KnifeFed]

Originally posted by KnifeFed
Hey.
I'm using this in conjunction with a SonyEricsson W810i and everything seems fine, as in it finds the device and I can browse the media, but when I press sync nothing happens. Nothing at all.

Ok, I got sync working now.. well, sort of. It transfers the files correctly from the media library to the phone when I press sync, but if I delete a file from the media library and then press sync, it doesn't delete it from the phone...

Any ideas?

(btw, thanks a BUNCH for blessing us with pmp_usb! I've been eagerly anticipating a Winamp-plugin that does the same thing as ml_ipod/pmp_ipod since I migrated from a 6GB mini to a 4GB W810i.)

[will]

KnifeFed: thats by design at the moment.

You can force this behaviour by editing c:\program files\Winamp\Winamp.ini

Find the line "[ml_pmp]" and under it write "TrueSync=1" (no quotes).

Will

[KnifeFed]

Thanks Will! You've made me a very happy man! This plugin is the beez kneez and then some...

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by jmbattle
Excellent job Sounders!

WinAmp picks up my iAudio and now automatically loads the database into the ML. It takes a little while (over 30secs for nearly 3000 tracks), but I hope this can improve once the db is locally cached.

I did notice WinAmp died when physically disconnecting and reconnecting the drive, however.

Please keep the updates coming!

Cheers!
James (struggling with a broken laptop keyboard...)
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Optimizing load times is a feature that we can hopefully implement sometime soon. Recently i have been tied up with working on a different plugin.

Your iAudio was not picked up by the plugin because it was not classified as a removable drive in the drivers. I have it set so that if it has been connected before it will connect it again, as long as it has songs on the device when you connect it.

As for winamp crashing when you disconnect the device, does it still crash if you right click-> eject the device, and then disconnect it? There was some support given for ripping the drive, but it may not be working with your device.

[jmbattle]

Hello Soundrs, thank you for your updates!

Great to hear that loading times will be improved in the future. I was a little off on my previous benchmarks - it actually takes 2m:11s to load the database from my player, so any optimisations would be most welcome.

Out of curiousity, I tried musikCube a few days ago, and whilst the database file it stores on my player's drive is nearly twice the size (3.7mb), it is read very quickly, within a matter of seconds. I believe musikCube uses SQlite, which may help?

Regarding the crashing, WinAMP does not crash upon disconnecting the drive - I simply pull out the cable, as the 'Eject' button is non-functional (a requestor states 'Is something else using it?', which does not appear to be the case, browsing the taskmanager).

Connecting the drive when WinAMP is running is what causes the crash (my apologies at the incorrect report previously). This means that I need to ensure the drive is already connected (and recognised by Windows) before starting WinAMP.

Well, I hope this answers your questions - please do not hesitate to let me know if I can assist further.

Finally, would you please confirm is support for rearranging the columns of portable devices will be added in future?

Thanks again,
James
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[KnifeFed]

I've found that even though I've chosen to delete empty folders in the config, this doesn't actually happen... Could this be because a folder isn't considered "empty" even though all it contains is another empty folder?

Also, after a short while during a transfer in progress, Winamp becomes very unresponsive/unusable for me. The files transfer just fine though!

[Soundrs]

I set up the purge folders feature so that when you remove a track from the device (in winamp), it will delete the folder that it was in. If this causes the parent folder of the folder that was just deleted to be empty, that folder will recursively be deleted as well.

I'm not sure what the circumstances are that you are deleting a track and it is not deleting the folder. I could easily have it scan the device for empty folders, but this is much slower; I'd rather figure out the context where its not deleting your empty folder.

[KnifeFed]

I have pmp_usb configured to transfer files to "W:\MP3\<Artist>\<Album>\## - <Title>". I click "USB Drive W:" in the Portables-section of the Media Library, select an album, mark all the songs it contains and select Remove from device. pmp_usb removes all the mp3-files but leaves the <Artist>-folder, containing only an empty <Album>-folder.

[jmbattle]

Hello chaps,

Well, my instabilities improve considerably if I leave the default PMP USB settings - i.e. do not scan for .ogg files. Connecting/Disconnecting the drive is fast and stable.

However, adding .ogg scanning (the majority of my music collection), the tag_cache.xml becomes ten times the size, and this is where the problems occur.

I hope this information is useful.

Cheers,
James
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[KnifeFed]

I don't use ogg-files, only mp3 and m4a, yet Winamp becomes very dodgy during file-transfers...

[jmbattle]

I don't believe the format is the problem, it is more the size of the database (cached on my player's drive).

James
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[Logy]

just a curiosity...
an icon for pmp usb seem annoying (black with stripe) on default skin and some other skin... is it by design or it bugs(heheee!)! i'm still waiting a function like that rename usb or something like that!
adios!

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by Logy
just a curiosity...
an icon for pmp usb seem annoying (black with stripe) on default skin and some other skin... is it by design or it bugs(heheee!)! i'm still waiting a function like that rename usb or something like that!
adios!

I just added a name changing feature. However, it looks like will is going to make one for ml_pmp, so i think I'm going to take it out again.

Thanks for pointing out the icon, my skin is pretty much black and white and I didnt notice that it wasnt anti-aliased correctly. When i switched it to the default classic skin, I saw how hidious it looked!

[Logy]

you're welcome!
thanks for new feature!
adios!

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by KnifeFed
I have pmp_usb configured to transfer files to "W:\MP3\<Artist>\<Album>\## - <Title>". I click "USB Drive W:" in the Portables-section of the Media Library, select an album, mark all the songs it contains and select Remove from device. pmp_usb removes all the mp3-files but leaves the <Artist>-folder, containing only an empty <Album>-folder.

I tried doing things a little differently than I was doing before. It should work for you in the next release.

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by jmbattle
Hello chaps,

Well, my instabilities improve considerably if I leave the default PMP USB settings - i.e. do not scan for .ogg files. Connecting/Disconnecting the drive is fast and stable.

However, adding .ogg scanning (the majority of my music collection), the tag_cache.xml becomes ten times the size, and this is where the problems occur.

I hope this information is useful.

Cheers,
James
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The main problem for me has been trying to reproduce a crash. It sounds like a file (probably internal, not a song) is still open when you are trying to disconnect.

Does it still say "Failed to eject device" if you haven't done anything with the device other than connect it?

[jmbattle]

Yes, opening WinAMP, plugging the device in, waiting a few seconds for it to appear in the 'Portables' list, then clicking 'Eject' - 'Failed to eject device - Is something using it?'.

If you would like me to test using a debug build, I would be more than happy to help.

Cheers,
James
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[Soundrs]

Do you mind posting your tag_cache.xml file for me please? (I promise not to make fun of any embarassing songs you may have on there )

[Extranion]

I see there are many problems about connecting mp3 players to winamp.

you need a plug-in to connect your mp3 player...

What now if u just take the portable drives in your windows and make a option in the "send to" menu to send the selected files to your portable drive.

Then u can copy your files always to your mp3 player because many mp3 players are seen as a portable drive.

then u dont need the plugin files...

Dont know if this is possible with winamp program but i dont think it will be hard to make.

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there is another thing. it will be very cool if winamp have some options to change multiply mp3 id3 tags. so u can set a label for all album songs and a year.

now i use mediadmonkey to edit my id3 tags and copy to my mp3 player, but of course winamp is my main player.

[Soundrs]

Originally posted by jmbattle
Yes, opening WinAMP, plugging the device in, waiting a few seconds for it to appear in the 'Portables' list, then clicking 'Eject' - 'Failed to eject device - Is something using it?'.

If you would like me to test using a debug build, I would be more than happy to help.

Cheers,
James
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I didnt have the beta settings set to send us detailed crash results in the beta you are using. Hopefully the crashing issues will be a bit easier to resolve after the next public beta is out there.

Thanks for your patience.

[Gabes Dad]

I'm using a Sony NX70V palm handheld with a 256MB CF card which mounts as a "Removeable Disk" disk drive. I have a few issues so far:

1. When trying to play songs through Winamp that are located on the device, winamp will play approximately 5 seconds of the song just fine and then go into repeating loop of last 1 second of the song that was played.

2. When editing tags of files that are already on the device and the device is close to full disk capacity in use, it cannot write all of the tags. Looking at the dsik in explorer shows a .tmp file temporarily being created while tagging the file. Is there anyway this file can be created in the temp space in the desktop's temp directory rather than the devices limited storage space.

3. A minor issue, but if the filename format is setup incorrectly, winamp crashes when sending files to the device rather than generating an error message. The filename format and playlist directory seem somewhat redundant have to include the drive letter when the top drop-down has already asked for it. I noticed that the filename and playlist dialogues automatically place the drive letter at the beginning of line, i.e., "F", although it might be helpful to place the whole "F:\" at the beginning of the line to prevent confusion. I did switch the drive letter while connected an the plugin updated itself just fine, so that works.

4. I also have the eject issue where winamp tells me the "Failed to eject device. Is something else using it?" error. When ejecting the device in the windows task tray it gives me a similar message and so I have to disconnect the drive through the Palm software against its warnings.

Other than those issues, great plugin. It would be nice if I could use the "view file info" option to edit file tags on a device rather than the media library's "edit selected items" dialogue, but I guess this has something to do with how the song database is cached on the device. Can't wait to use the upcoming builtin transcoding with this.

Thanks.

[jmbattle]

Soundrs, PM sent.

I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but would it perhaps make sense to read the entire tag_cache.xml into memory first, then populate the ML with it's entries, rather than open the file gradually, populating the ML at the same time.

Potentially faster loading of PMP data?

Cheers,
James
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[lazerfisk]

I'll just go ahead and paste this here

I'm using the USB Device v0.4 plugin which has been working great for me. However, now my external USB harddrive also shows up (which it didn't do before) and this also crashes WinAmp on startup when scanning the drive. The interesting thing here is that on the USB drive there are three partitions, I:, P: and Q:, but only I: shows up. I: is an external USB harddrive and no MP3 player

This happened after I tried installing the 5.25 beta (which I later replaced with 5.24 again but the problem persists)

Possible feaure request: "Remove this portable device" in order to stop it from appearing in the lists, and add a configuration page with "ignored devices" or something?

Cheers,
Christopher

[Logy]

just suggestions :
1.) it would be nice if winamp detected the name of usb drive as the windows as detected... and renamed the drive will affected the name on windows using too.
2.} and the configuration setting would be nice if using the hidden attribute on usb drive, and very annoying when see that file visible!
adios!

[Gabes Dad]

Another suggestion - under supported fomats, allow some character or means of using all formats supported by winamp. For example, I might use a portable hard drive to transfer items between computers.

[will]

Soundrs has returned to college, i've taken pmp_usb back over.

Here is v0.5
www.winamp.com/player

* reads id3 tags in the background (no more stalling winamp on startup). Click "clear search" to refresh as the metadata cache is built
* guesses metadata based on filename and path if there is no id3 tag
* PSP support
* maybe a few small bugfixes in the general cleaning up of code

[edit: download link removed, get latest winamp]