Bug since 5.2

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 16:56

Hi all

Since version 5.2 winamp displays the ID3 tags wrong.
If a MP3 file contains only ID3 V1 tag, winamp displays some taginfo from the unchecked ID3 V2 panel in the list and in the edit window. I think, it's because of this?:

Quote:

* Improved: [in_mp3] unicode id3 tags
* Improved: [in_mp3] preliminary id3v2.4 support

I'm using 98SE and XP - it happens on both systems.
If you don't know, what i mean, i can post some screenshots.

I hope, this will be fixed soon.

Greets @ DJ Egg!

Juanus · 16th July 2006, 18:40

I am sure your issue is related to this issue that has already been reported

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=250489

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 18:53

Uhm, not really. It's not only the comment field and this field is also not empty. It's not limited to a specific entry.

DJ Egg · 16th July 2006, 19:02

If the ID3v2 fields are filled in but grayed-out, it usually means that those are Lyrics3 tags. Could this be the case? If they are Lyrics3 tags, then they'll take precedence over ID3v1 tags.

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 19:24

Lyrics3 tag? What's that?
Anyway, i've attached a screenshot.
Although the ID3 V2 tag is disabeld, it's displayed in the playlist.

btw: Videos in generals are displayed only als "-". Under winamp V5.13 displaying worked 100%...

DJ Egg · 16th July 2006, 19:47

Did you download these files from somewhere, or did you encode them yourself?

It looks like Lyrics3 tags to me
http://www.id3.org/lyrics3.html
http://www.id3.org/lyrics3200.html

In pre 5.2 there was no way to view/edit Lyrics3 tags in Winamp without a 3rd-party plugin, but since 5.2 the Lyrics3 tags are shown as in your screenshot.

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 20:01

This file was a download. For my self-made files i'm always using ID V1 and ID V2 tag, so i don't have this problem there.
OK, how to "un-display" those Lyrics3 tags like in winamp V5.13?

Bubba Smith · 16th July 2006, 20:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
OK, how to "un-display" those Lyrics3 tags

Kinda tough. You actually have to remove the Lyrics3 tags. First, install Mp3tag. Then follow ara-fat32's instructions in this post in another forum.

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 21:18

Can't winamp just un-display instead of removing it like in 5.13?

Bubba Smith · 16th July 2006, 21:23

Nope. Sorry.

As Egg already indicated above...

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
since 5.2 the Lyrics3 tags are shown as in your screenshot.

So, either live with it or try ara-fat32's method of removal that I mentioned in my above post.

btw... it's not a bug at all really (as your thread indicated). It's a new 'feature' in Winamp.

DJ Egg · 16th July 2006, 21:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
Can't winamp just un-display instead of removing it like in 5.13?

As already stated, in 5.13 and earlier those Lyrics3 tags would still be displayed in the playlist, but you wouldn't be able to view them in the File Info box like you can in 5.2x.

So what's better? Being able to see the Lyrics3 tags in the Editor, or not seeing them at all and wondering where the hell Winamp is reading the information from?

Lyrics3 tags take precedence over ID3v1 tags, but ID3v2 tags take precedence over Lyrics3, so your other option is to checkmark "ID3v2 tag", then click the "Copy from ID3v1" button, then click "Update".

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 21:40

This "feature" prevents making a playlist with correct titles. This is really annoying - can't you put in an option for disable the representation of Lyric3 tags in the playlist or even in general? Otherwise i must continue using 5.13...

@DJ Egg: No, in older verions you never saw Lyric3 tags in the playlist, nor in the edit box.
It's not bad, to see them in the edit box, they just shouldn't appear in the playlist - even without ID V2.

DJ Egg · 16th July 2006, 22:11

Support for Lyrics3 tags was broken in 5.13, but was working in all versions prior to that, and was fixed again in 5.2

So it's not up to us to fix anything, but it's up to you to remove the Lyrics3 tags if you don't want them.

Quote:

It's not bad, to see them in the edit box, they just shouldn't appear in the playlist - even without ID V2

Please read again what I said above about Lyrics3 tags taking precedence over ID3v1.
We didn't write the ID3 or Lyrics3 specifications. They're an mp3 standard, and it's always been like that ever since ID3 and Lyrics3 tags have existed.

Chrissyx · 16th July 2006, 22:31

OK then, is it possible to implement
-an option to disable the displaying of Lyric3 tags in the playlist
or
-possibilities to edit the Lyric3 directly
?

Quote:

We didn't write the ID3 or Lyrics3 specifications. They're an mp3 standard, and it's always been like that ever since ID3 and Lyrics3 tags have existed.

But why was there never a problem with winamp 5.X or 2.X? I got this display probs only since 5.2X...

DJ Egg · 17th July 2006, 01:27

How many files have you got with this so-called problem?
Have you had these files for a few years (ie. when 2.x was still around)?
Can you zip up one of the files, upload it to some webspace and provide a link here?

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
-an option to disable the displaying of Lyric3 tags in the playlist
or
-possibilities to edit the Lyric3 directly

Yes, by copying the ID3v1 tag to the v2 tag, as referenced in one of my posts above.

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
your other option is to checkmark "ID3v2 tag", then click the "Copy from ID3v1" button, then click "Update".

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
But why was there never a problem with winamp 5.X or 2.X?

Not sure, but maybe Lyrics3 tag support had been broken for longer than we thought?

Red Mullet · 17th July 2006, 17:53

I din not think this bug is spesially is for 5.2.
in oldest version that I had some same bugs I saw.
But Now I have winamp 5.24 id3 tags work better than previous versions.
Maybe you have internal bug intyour win98se.
Check your win for viruses
Cheers Lord

amano · 17th July 2006, 20:05

Red Mullet, is this your new hobby to tell people that their problems do not exist? Although everybody can reproduce it?

But on the other hand you post "bugs" into the bug channel that nobody can reproduce.

Check your brain for viruses.

Jesus Lord!

siebe83 · 17th July 2006, 21:07

Yeah, cut the bullshit already.

Benski · 21st July 2006, 18:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
[B]OK then, is it possible to implement
-an option to disable the displaying of Lyric3 tags in the playlist

Uncheck "Read Lyrics3" in Preferences->Input->Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder->Title/Tags.

If these files are in your media library, you might have to remove them and re-add them, as the media library caches the tags.

DJ Egg · 21st July 2006, 21:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrissyx
is it possible to implement
-an option to disable the displaying of Lyric3 tags in the playlist

Quote:

Originally posted by Benski
Uncheck "Read Lyrics3" in Preferences->Input->Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder->Title/Tags.

Doh, of course! I'd forgotten about that new little feature, heh

Chrissyx · 24th July 2006, 19:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Benski
Uncheck "Read Lyrics3" in Preferences->Input->Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder->Title/Tags.

If these files are in your media library, you might have to remove them and re-add them, as the media library caches the tags.

PERFECT! GREAT! Just what i needed!

^^ THANKS!

Now i can finally update from 5.13 to 5.24

16th July 2006, 19:02	#4
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	If the ID3v2 fields are filled in but grayed-out, it usually means that those are Lyrics3 tags. Could this be the case? If they are Lyrics3 tags, then they'll take precedence over ID3v1 tags. Playlist -\|- Twitter

16th July 2006, 19:47	#6
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Did you download these files from somewhere, or did you encode them yourself? It looks like Lyrics3 tags to me http://www.id3.org/lyrics3.html http://www.id3.org/lyrics3200.html In pre 5.2 there was no way to view/edit Lyrics3 tags in Winamp without a 3rd-party plugin, but since 5.2 the Lyrics3 tags are shown as in your screenshot. Playlist -\|- Twitter

17th July 2006, 20:05	#17
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	Red Mullet, is this your new hobby to tell people that their problems do not exist? Although everybody can reproduce it? But on the other hand you post "bugs" into the bug channel that nobody can reproduce. Check your brain for viruses. Jesus Lord! eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8

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16th July 2006, 18:40	#2
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	I am sure your issue is related to this issue that has already been reported http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=250489

16th July 2006, 18:53	#3
Chrissyx Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 63	Uhm, not really. It's not only the comment field and this field is also not empty. It's not limited to a specific entry.

16th July 2006, 20:01	#7
Chrissyx Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 63	This file was a download. For my self-made files i'm always using ID V1 and ID V2 tag, so i don't have this problem there. OK, how to "un-display" those Lyrics3 tags like in winamp V5.13?

16th July 2006, 21:18	#9
Chrissyx Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 63	Can't winamp just un-display instead of removing it like in 5.13?

16th July 2006, 21:40	#12
Chrissyx Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 63	This "feature" prevents making a playlist with correct titles. This is really annoying - can't you put in an option for disable the representation of Lyric3 tags in the playlist or even in general? Otherwise i must continue using 5.13... @DJ Egg: No, in older verions you never saw Lyric3 tags in the playlist, nor in the edit box. It's not bad, to see them in the edit box, they just shouldn't appear in the playlist - even without ID V2.

17th July 2006, 17:53	#16
Red Mullet Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 57	I din not think this bug is spesially is for 5.2. in oldest version that I had some same bugs I saw. But Now I have winamp 5.24 id3 tags work better than previous versions. Maybe you have internal bug intyour win98se. Check your win for viruses Cheers Lord