Very simple problem: 2 videos at once?

Pythos · 22nd July 2006, 14:57

Hi there,
My problem is brief and I'm sure it's just something in Winamp I need to turn off/on to fix.

After I reformatted my computer with Windows XP Professional SP2, I cannot play a game and have a video running in the background. I always get the blue screen. Let me give you an example. I'm playing World of Warcraft or Frozen Throne, minimize out and open a video to listen to a few songs from there. I minimize that, go back into the game, and 3 seconds later, blue screen. This happens every time. It also happens with Windows Media Player.

System specs:
Windows XP Professional SP2
AMD 3500+
X800 XT 256mb video card
512x2 OCZ dual channel RAM
MSI MS-6702E
VIA Chipset K8T800 Pro

JonnyMac · 22nd July 2006, 23:42

If it is happening to either player, that would suggest it is a system problem rather than a Winamp specific issue. A stop message (AKA blue screen) with Windows XP, usually relates a driver or hardware issue.

Try updating the video/display and sound drivers. Sorry, as it is system problem there is not much help that we can give you.

BTW Have you ever heard that old cliché about the guy who visits his doctor complaining about a pain in his arm?...

This guy says to his doctor, “Doc, every time I do this my arm hurts.”

And, the doctor says, “Well, don't do that.”

I am not trying to be flippant in any way, however the point being. -- If running a game and a video at the same time causes your computer to crash (hurt), don't do that.

Anyways, good luck and happy Winamping.

Pythos · 23rd July 2006, 17:17

Thanks for the reply, have you heard the old saying,

"Are you listening - get your head out of the clouds"?

If I see a bluescreen, obviously I would not do it again :\ I'm just looking for a way to fix this problem. I appreciate the help explaining it might be a driver issue, but your common sense should tell you that I probably am NOT doing it over and over.

Thanks again.

JonnyMac · 23rd July 2006, 19:20

You're welcome.

I understood you were looking for a fix and I did not think you were doing that over & over again. My apologies if I insulted you in any way.

That last suggestion was meant as a "If you can’t find fix for it" type of thing.

bemymonkey · 24th July 2006, 12:48

Sounds like a driver problem to me... why the hell do you wnat to run a video in the background of a game anyway?...

JonnyMac · 24th July 2006, 13:43

Oh come one now. Let’s take it easy on Pythos. Pythos already knows not to do that again.

bemymonkey · 24th July 2006, 13:45

Why not? A blue screen isn't gonna blow up his computer ;-)...

And anyway... that might actually come in useful... if you're playing a really boring game (ummm... just about any strategy game of "tactical" shooter :-D) just run a video in the background on your second or third monitor :-D

JonnyMac · 24th July 2006, 13:49

It sort-of looked like you were lightly scorning him (or her). No big deal

bemymonkey · 24th July 2006, 13:50

Oh no, didn't mean it that way, heheh...

Pythos · 27th July 2006, 23:02

Well JonnyMac, thanks for the apology.

Now, you want to know why I would play the video files in the background? Well, there is music on those files that I do not know the name of...yes I know it's stupid, but I don't have the names of the songs...so only way I can do listen to them is to run them while I play :P

Thanks again.

JonnyMac · 27th July 2006, 23:20

Maybe the following workaround (I wish I thought of this before)...

Winamp > Ctrl+P > General Preferences > Video > uncheck 'Display the video window when video playback begins'

Maybe not exactly what you would like. If that setting is unchecked/disabling and you want to view a video for regular playback, you can manually toggle the video window (Alt+V or main/right-click menu > Video). Otherwise, re-enable the setting to display the vid window automatically.

Pythos · 28th July 2006, 21:25

Hey JonnyMac,
Thanks for your help again

I really appreciate this.

That fix you gave me partially worked. I started WoW, and minimized out of the game, opened WinAmp after applying the settings you told me (Disable video playback). Well, it worked. My computer did not crash.

After 10 minutes, I noticed nothing wrong was happening. Satisfied, I closed the game. However, when I exited WinAmp - right when I clicked on the 'X' in the upper right corner - the blue screen came again

I think we are getting some headway though.

Again, I really appreciate your help.

MarkRH · 28th July 2006, 22:19

You might try going into the Video Preferences in Winamp and uncheck the option to allow Hardware Overlay.

You could also load up some audio/wav recording program, set your Sound Card's recording option to "wave" or "what you hear" or "stereo mix" or some such thing.. play the video in Winamp and record a WAV file version of it. Then, convert the WAV file to whatever if you wanted.

Or.. load the video file into a program that can extract the audio out of the video.

Just curious, are there any filenames in this bluescreen that you are getting?

Mark H.

JonnyMac · 29th July 2006, 00:11

Have you tried updating the drivers?

Please provide a Hijack This log. Download links for HjT and instructions for posting log can be found here.

As this is more of a system issue (i.e. driver or hardware), there is no guarantee that we can help you after providing a HjT log. Also, no guarantee that will provide helpful insight. However, maybe someone here can find something.

bemymonkey · 29th July 2006, 10:15

Hmmm... Are you running the latest catalysts and other drivers? Virus & Spyware-free? Really sounds like a driver problem, so make sure those're all in working order...

Pythos · 29th July 2006, 14:17

Hey guys, thanks again for the prompt responses,

Now, I'm fairly certain this is a driver issue as well. I do not have Catalyst 6.6 yet because in the release notes, under "Known Problems for Catalyst 6.6" they have many issues that affect me, so I did not download it. However, they plan to release a new Catalyst within 2-3 days, hopefully those will be better.

I am also running the latest virus/spyware scanners...AVG, Spybot, and Ad-aware.

Hijack This Log:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 10:15:09 AM, on 7/29/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\jusched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\DAWOOD~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.969\HijackThis.exe

O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\ssv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DiagAP8169] C:\Program Files\MSI\LAN Utility\DiagAP8169 /hw
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools] "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -lang 1033
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe (file missing)
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{90DA7712-A87B-4A19-BD31-F6F863837070}: NameServer = 24.153.22.25,24.153.23.8
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing)
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG E-mail Scanner (AVGEMS) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Remote Packet Capture Protocol v.0 (experimental) (rpcapd) - Unknown owner - %ProgramFiles%\WinPcap\rpcapd.exe" -d -f "%ProgramFiles%\WinPcap\rpcapd.ini (file missing)

In a few minutes I will try the Hardware Overlay option in Winamp.

I understand there is no guarentee, and if it were up to me, I would flush my video card down with my shit because I hate it that much. However, it's expensive to get another one, so might as well keep what I have...

Thanks again guys.

JonnyMac · 29th July 2006, 19:47

Blah, I could not find any "red flags" in the HjT log.

Pythos · 29th July 2006, 22:48

I keep myself clean at all times.

22nd July 2006, 14:57	#1
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	Very simple problem: 2 videos at once? Hi there, My problem is brief and I'm sure it's just something in Winamp I need to turn off/on to fix. After I reformatted my computer with Windows XP Professional SP2, I cannot play a game and have a video running in the background. I always get the blue screen. Let me give you an example. I'm playing World of Warcraft or Frozen Throne, minimize out and open a video to listen to a few songs from there. I minimize that, go back into the game, and 3 seconds later, blue screen. This happens every time. It also happens with Windows Media Player. System specs: Windows XP Professional SP2 AMD 3500+ X800 XT 256mb video card 512x2 OCZ dual channel RAM MSI MS-6702E VIA Chipset K8T800 Pro

22nd July 2006, 23:42	#2
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	If it is happening to either player, that would suggest it is a system problem rather than a Winamp specific issue. A stop message (AKA blue screen) with Windows XP, usually relates a driver or hardware issue. Try updating the video/display and sound drivers. Sorry, as it is system problem there is not much help that we can give you. BTW Have you ever heard that old cliché about the guy who visits his doctor complaining about a pain in his arm?... This guy says to his doctor, “Doc, every time I do this my arm hurts.” And, the doctor says, “Well, don't do that.” I am not trying to be flippant in any way, however the point being. -- If running a game and a video at the same time causes your computer to crash (hurt), don't do that. Anyways, good luck and happy Winamping. Please do not PM me for tech support. Any request for tech support through PM will be ignored. Read the Stickies ---> \| \| \| \| <--- Knowledge is power

24th July 2006, 12:48	#5
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Sounds like a driver problem to me... why the hell do you wnat to run a video in the background of a game anyway?... Weeeeeeeeeeee

24th July 2006, 13:45	#7
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Why not? A blue screen isn't gonna blow up his computer ;-)... And anyway... that might actually come in useful... if you're playing a really boring game (ummm... just about any strategy game of "tactical" shooter :-D) just run a video in the background on your second or third monitor :-D Weeeeeeeeeeee

24th July 2006, 13:50	#9
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Oh no, didn't mean it that way, heheh... Weeeeeeeeeeee

23rd July 2006, 17:17	#3
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	Thanks for the reply, have you heard the old saying, "Are you listening - get your head out of the clouds"? If I see a bluescreen, obviously I would not do it again :\ I'm just looking for a way to fix this problem. I appreciate the help explaining it might be a driver issue, but your common sense should tell you that I probably am NOT doing it over and over. Thanks again.

23rd July 2006, 19:20	#4
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	You're welcome. I understood you were looking for a fix and I did not think you were doing that over & over again. My apologies if I insulted you in any way. That last suggestion was meant as a "If you can’t find fix for it" type of thing.

24th July 2006, 13:43	#6
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	Oh come one now. Let’s take it easy on Pythos. Pythos already knows not to do that again.

24th July 2006, 13:49	#8
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	It sort-of looked like you were lightly scorning him (or her). No big deal

27th July 2006, 23:02	#10
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	Well JonnyMac, thanks for the apology. Now, you want to know why I would play the video files in the background? Well, there is music on those files that I do not know the name of...yes I know it's stupid, but I don't have the names of the songs...so only way I can do listen to them is to run them while I play :P Thanks again.

27th July 2006, 23:20	#11
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	Maybe the following workaround (I wish I thought of this before)... Winamp > Ctrl+P > General Preferences > Video > uncheck 'Display the video window when video playback begins' Maybe not exactly what you would like. If that setting is unchecked/disabling and you want to view a video for regular playback, you can manually toggle the video window (Alt+V or main/right-click menu > Video). Otherwise, re-enable the setting to display the vid window automatically.

28th July 2006, 21:25	#12
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	Hey JonnyMac, Thanks for your help again I really appreciate this. That fix you gave me partially worked. I started WoW, and minimized out of the game, opened WinAmp after applying the settings you told me (Disable video playback). Well, it worked. My computer did not crash. After 10 minutes, I noticed nothing wrong was happening. Satisfied, I closed the game. However, when I exited WinAmp - right when I clicked on the 'X' in the upper right corner - the blue screen came again I think we are getting some headway though. Again, I really appreciate your help.

28th July 2006, 22:19	#13
MarkRH Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 478	You might try going into the Video Preferences in Winamp and uncheck the option to allow Hardware Overlay. You could also load up some audio/wav recording program, set your Sound Card's recording option to "wave" or "what you hear" or "stereo mix" or some such thing.. play the video in Winamp and record a WAV file version of it. Then, convert the WAV file to whatever if you wanted. Or.. load the video file into a program that can extract the audio out of the video. Just curious, are there any filenames in this bluescreen that you are getting? Mark H. Mark H. System Information \| Old Winamp Info \| WACUP Info Older MIDI input plugin that supports auto loading SoundFonts

29th July 2006, 00:11	#14
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	Have you tried updating the drivers? Please provide a Hijack This log. Download links for HjT and instructions for posting log can be found here. As this is more of a system issue (i.e. driver or hardware), there is no guarantee that we can help you after providing a HjT log. Also, no guarantee that will provide helpful insight. However, maybe someone here can find something. Please do not PM me for tech support. Any request for tech support through PM will be ignored. Read the Stickies ---> \| \| \| \| <--- Knowledge is power

29th July 2006, 10:15	#15
bemymonkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 461	Hmmm... Are you running the latest catalysts and other drivers? Virus & Spyware-free? Really sounds like a driver problem, so make sure those're all in working order... Weeeeeeeeeeee

29th July 2006, 14:17	#16
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	Hey guys, thanks again for the prompt responses, Now, I'm fairly certain this is a driver issue as well. I do not have Catalyst 6.6 yet because in the release notes, under "Known Problems for Catalyst 6.6" they have many issues that affect me, so I did not download it. However, they plan to release a new Catalyst within 2-3 days, hopefully those will be better. I am also running the latest virus/spyware scanners...AVG, Spybot, and Ad-aware. Hijack This Log: Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 Scan saved at 10:15:09 AM, on 7/29/2006 Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180) Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\jusched.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\DOCUME~1\DAWOOD~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.969\HijackThis.exe O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\ssv.dll O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DiagAP8169] C:\Program Files\MSI\LAN Utility\DiagAP8169 /hw O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\jusched.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools] "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -lang 1033 O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000 O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe (file missing) O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe (file missing) O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{90DA7712-A87B-4A19-BD31-F6F863837070}: NameServer = 24.153.22.25,24.153.23.8 O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing) O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe O23 - Service: AVG E-mail Scanner (AVGEMS) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe O23 - Service: Remote Packet Capture Protocol v.0 (experimental) (rpcapd) - Unknown owner - %ProgramFiles%\WinPcap\rpcapd.exe" -d -f "%ProgramFiles%\WinPcap\rpcapd.ini (file missing) In a few minutes I will try the Hardware Overlay option in Winamp. I understand there is no guarentee, and if it were up to me, I would flush my video card down with my shit because I hate it that much. However, it's expensive to get another one, so might as well keep what I have... Thanks again guys.

29th July 2006, 19:47	#17
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,385	Blah, I could not find any "red flags" in the HjT log.

29th July 2006, 22:48	#18
Pythos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12	I keep myself clean at all times.

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