Old 17th September 2006, 13:03   #921
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Re: Play for Sure & Winamp 5.25 BETA

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I do notice that when plug in my Dell DJ and Windows asks me what application to launch, Windows Media Player, Winamp, or "Do Nothing"... When I select Winamp, Winamp does not load. When I select Windows Media Player, it does load.
I think I was being a little to vague...

When you connect your Play for Sure device to your USB port and the MTP dialog comes up (this is the what-program-would-you-like-to-launch-dialog) with options such as, Windows Mediaplayer, Winamp, and "Do nothing". This is a similar dialog to when you insert a DVD into your computer. Anyhow, when you select Winamp, does Winamp load? Anyone?
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Old 17th September 2006, 13:05   #922
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No, it doesn't. The problem is known and being looked into...
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Old 17th September 2006, 13:06   #923
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If the fields under ID3v2 are filled-in but grayed-out, then this usually means that they are Lyrics3 tags, not ID3v2 tags. You can confirm this by unchecking "Read Lyrics3" under the same in_mp3 config dialog that I referenced in my previous post.

Re: duplicates in ML database
Sorry, but I aren't sure if you'll be able to remove the duplicates without rebuilding the database. Alas, these things happen with beta software. You should never install beta software with intent to use it as a main program, ie. we expect you to keep 5.24 as your main player and install 5.25 beta to a separate dir and use it for testing purposes only. Or if you do install the beta into your main Winamp dir, then we recommend that you backup everything first, and especially the plugins\ml dir (ml database folder).
This sucks...
can't you put a "remove duplicates" just like in the playlist editor?
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Old 17th September 2006, 13:09   #924
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About the "Cannot Create File" problem with portable players - the reason is that the files being created are being renamed on the fly from the ID3 Tags. If the ID3 Tags contain a / or a * or other illegal character, the file isn't created...

Plz fix! ...

Weeeeeeeeeeee
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Old 17th September 2006, 13:56   #925
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This sucks...
can't you put a "remove duplicates" just like in the playlist editor?
Well, no, because there shouldn't be any duplicates anyway (ie. the exact same file with the same path & filename shouldn't be listed more than once in the database).

As I said, this bug was fixed in b868
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Changes between b857 and b868

* Fixed: duplicate media library entries bug (unfortunately your old duplicate entries will still exist)
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Old 17th September 2006, 14:04   #926
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after reading what dr egg siad, a problem of mine came up. i want to know if i can install third party plugins? (i've been using a clean install since starting to use 5.25 beta)
Can install whatever you want, just be aware that third party plugins make debugging more difficult, and should you come into any issues with the beta's, its advisable to try a clean install to reproduce it.

Thats not to say that running beta's with third party plugins doesnt show up other bugs too.

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Old 17th September 2006, 14:08   #927
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So something like this maybe?
http://forums.winamp.com/attachment.php?postid=2021931
Can we have a third option: "Do not ask, always write track gain"?

I don't know, how option 2 would work though, since no beta was provided with it.

EDIT: Hmm. Or does it do that already? What happens if you uncheck the checkbox. Does winamp always write the track gain then?

eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee
8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88
8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8
88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8
88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8
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Old 17th September 2006, 14:17   #928
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I guess "Album Gain" writes the "Track Gain" info too.
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Old 17th September 2006, 15:44   #929
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Nice, like the updates but for me it seems kinda the same as 5.24.
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Old 17th September 2006, 16:53   #930
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It still has Winamp written all over it!

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Old 17th September 2006, 20:06   #931
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the bug or not the bug? that is the question!

exuse me for my poorest english
hey guys, try to reproduce this (maybe bug):
  • start winamp (with some classic skin)
  • toggle playlist editor ON (if it not)
  • minimize winamp (in some way)
  • restore winamp (in some way)
  • toggle playlist editor OFF
  • minimize winamp (in some way)
  • restore winamp (in some way)
after this steps (after last restoring) on my two systems (1-winme, 2-win2ksp4), playlist editor still shown, but 'Playlist Editor' in menu or button on WA main window is not checked.
this behavior actual not only for latest beta build (5.25), but for latest WA final release (5.24) and older ver. toooo.
if this 'bug-report' is not correct or not reproducable - DJ Egg can throw addled egg to me & erase this reply...

P.S. sorry for spend your time guys!
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Old 17th September 2006, 20:40   #932
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yup, above bug reproduced on 5.25 beta build 868. clean install, no 3rd party plugins installed etc.
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Old 17th September 2006, 22:07   #933
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seconded, also reproduced.
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Old 18th September 2006, 00:23   #934
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Odd! Yes, I confirm this behavior also with 5.25 build 868 on a Windows 2000 Professional OS.
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Old 18th September 2006, 01:26   #935
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Can install whatever you want, just be aware that third party plugins make debugging more difficult, and should you come into any issues with the beta's, its advisable to try a clean install to reproduce it.

Thats not to say that running beta's with third party plugins doesnt show up other bugs too.
That's good to know.

and if there is a problem, i'll take out the third party stuff to see if it's in the core.

the computer is never at fault for an error; a human is, though.
DO NOT PM me for tech support.
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Old 18th September 2006, 09:37   #936
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That's good to know.

and if there is a problem, i'll take out the third party stuff to see if it's in the core.
Correct. And its usually a good idea to do it piece by piece, third party down to base install, then you get to identify which specific plugin is at fault.

That way you have the absolute best information to make a report with. A reproducable test case, and the specific file thats at fault. Cant really ask for more.

Happy bug hunting.

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Old 18th September 2006, 21:25   #937
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@ 261A5050:

afaik the reason of that error are some modern skins

PS: guru meditation is an homage to the equivalent of pc "blue screen of the death" (fatal error) on Amiga computer


- guru meditation on wikipedia
- blue screen of death on wikipedia
This was using the Modern skin that comes with Winamp. Unfortunately I don't know what I did to cause it so I can't reproduce it.
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Old 19th September 2006, 04:57   #938
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Ripping and Burning Support

Hi Devs, I don't know how I missed this before. When you rip a CD and it makes a playlist for you, when you open the playlists up in notepad the paths are written as

#EXTINF:168,Nick Bognar - Swan Dive
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Nick Bognar - I'm In Love And I Hate It\10 - Nick Bognar - Swan Dive.mp3

where as in 5.24 they are written as
#EXTINF:168,Nick Bognar - Swan Dive
10 - Nick Bognar - Swan Dive.mp3

Given that I rip to the desktop and then move them to the correct folder, this is a problem for me. Is this by design or a bug?
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Old 19th September 2006, 05:31   #939
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It does that because you're ripping to desktop so I'd have to say it's by design. I'd just rip to whatever folder you have set in your ML prefs. That way you don't have to rescan for they're automatically added.

and you won't get that pesky \Owner\Desktop in your ML playlists.
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Old 19th September 2006, 12:57   #940
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bug?

shuting down windows w/o closing winamp first... winamp doesnt seem to close properly as when running winamp on the next start the old playlist is still there..
or maybe its just me get properly close winamp before hitting the power button...

btw about jtfe..
i have multiple queues on the manage list (16) the searchmode> search a file >play w/o closing jumptofile> clear search string(backspace)> search again > play again w/o finishing the song >search>play>search&play
i do this when trying to create a playlist for an audio cd later... it seems that the some of the queued files are lost though they should not (about 11 left) bec. no song has ended (search and play for 3 secs)..
on the other hand going to -search mode again > search for the last queued file - it shows queued as "title - [16 of 16]" going to manage mode again, 11 on the list, i mean there are only 11 queued files.
maybe its just hapens only to me..
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Old 19th September 2006, 13:03   #941
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It does that because you're ripping to desktop so I'd have to say it's by design. I'd just rip to whatever folder you have set in your ML prefs. That way you don't have to rescan for they're automatically added.

and you won't get that pesky \Owner\Desktop in your ML playlists.
It actually has to do with relative and absolute paths. And if you backup your music collection like I do then ALL of your playlists will not work on your backup drive unless you put them back exactly where they were before. same drive letter, same folder, ect. Or even if you just decide to move a folder or change a folder name to make things more tidy.

It was not this way in 5.24 so I am seeing if this is a planned change or an oversight somewhere. It would seem to make sense that since winamp makes self contained folders of each album ripped that the relative path method of 5.24 would be better and more efficient.
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Old 19th September 2006, 15:17   #942
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Re: bug?

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shuting down windows w/o closing winamp first... winamp doesnt seem to close properly as when running winamp on the next start the old playlist is still there..
Well, this is an old bug (since 5.2, if i remember well) and it shoud be reported already somewhere else (and not discussed in this 5.25 beta thread )...

PS: Problem is i can't find it anywhere else in the forums too.. So i cannot put a link to the thread.. spin, are we the only ones having this problem?
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Old 20th September 2006, 02:01   #943
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Re: Re: bug?

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Well, this is an old bug (since 5.2, if i remember well) and it shoud be reported already somewhere else (and not discussed in this 5.25 beta thread )...

PS: Problem is i can't find it anywhere else in the forums too.. So i cannot put a link to the thread.. spin, are we the only ones having this problem?
I think so.. i'm to lazy not to close winamp before shuting down
and i decided it to post it in this beta thread hoping it will be fixed!
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Old 20th September 2006, 04:36   #944
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Aye, I still get "DVDA - Fighting Love" every time I open winamp lol :-)

"suburashi chinchin mono, kintama no kame aruuuu!"

brief translation - "suprised willy piece, there are balls on a turtle" ... awesome
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Old 20th September 2006, 12:14   #945
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Any plans to support the new iTunes Gapless encoding standard that they now use in iTunes 7 and new iPods? Apple introduced their own way of including/embedding Gapless informations in MP3 and M4A/AAC files they create. Will WinAmp be able to play files detecting the new Gapless information that iTunes is embedding in the files it encodes?

For a discussion of iTunes and iPods support for this embedded Gapless info in files see: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...opic=48231&hl=
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Old 20th September 2006, 12:24   #946
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woeger you should read this thread
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Old 20th September 2006, 12:41   #947
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Thanks, that link to the thread answers my question. Can't wait to see iTunes 7 Gapless playback in WinAmp... Thanks guys!
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Old 20th September 2006, 14:29   #948
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Its already been done.

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with the lack of information from the devs any serious bug reports, I sense something BIG coming.
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Old 20th September 2006, 18:47   #950
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yes, the dev team have been imprisoned and will no longer be able to code due to their index fingers having been removed with a rusty spoon.

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No they haven't. Stop being retarded.

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yes, the dev team have been imprisoned and will no longer be able to code due to their index fingers having been removed with a rusty spoon.

-daz
I just typed this with my nose.
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Old 20th September 2006, 19:18   #954
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better cut that off as well then...

k, sarcasm mode over and done with now, just because the devs haven't posted for a bit doesn't necessarily mean anything big is going to happen, hell people could be on holiday and all that (devs do have lives... so i've heard). so just keep a pinch of patience by your side and wait for things as we all have to do

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No they haven't. Stop being retarded.
Stop being so serious. lol

I was kidding!
Don't take me as a newb. Godamn condecending sawg person.

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You're a newb yourself, Mr. registered Jun 2006.
(and yes I know sawg was here since before time!)

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Old 20th September 2006, 21:35   #958
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prerelease corrections?

exuse me for my poor english
  • start Wimamp (it's not mistake %^) - see img's)
  • open prefs
  • plugins —› input
  • dblclick on in_mod.dll
  • go to Player tab
  • set Stereo Separation to MAX (400% - lastest position at slider)
  • press OK button for save changes
  • [changes really saves (pansep=512), but heh...]
  • dblclick on in_mod.dll again
  • click Player tab
  • see on Stereo Separation slider position
  • this is fun, isn't?
this bug very old (it seems from WA 5.0 to this beta) - i'll be boring without it (if WA devteam fix it at all)

attached pics contains other prerelease fun [only_not_serious_mistakes]

P.S. sorry for spend your time guys!
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i got one:
same nullsoft modules preferences... but in loaders tab, you can see "when disable, this filetypes is ignored by Mikamp"
What is Mikamp? it is typo or some thing i don't know about it!
Cheeers!
adios!!!

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Old 21st September 2006, 05:23   #960
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isn't mistake

exuse me for my poor english
i think that "Mikamp" - own/personal name of "Nullsoft Module Decoder Plug-in" and this name because "Based on Mikmod Sound System" (plug-in core) - you may check screenshot
P.S. sorry for spend your time guys!
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