Winamp 5.31 Released

[Benski]

Originally posted by Juanus
Egg, has there been any testing on THIS issue of the sonic engine? Or are you saying that it is fized? I would love to use the Sonic Engine. But I have been using the aspi method layer for years now on your recommendation.

Thanks for all of the great work!

The 'last note echo' bug was fixed about a year or so ago (can't remember exactly when), and was actually the result of buggy Nullsoft code, not the sonic engine.

[woeger]

Thanks for including native FLAC support in Winamp. This is one feature I have really been waiting for...

Is there a plan to include album art (and possibly lyrics display) support for FLAC files once they are added into the new, soon to be released, FLAC 1.1.3 official specification/release (which is now currently in beta)?

[Juanus]

Originally posted by Benski
The 'last note echo' bug was fixed about a year or so ago (can't remember exactly when), and was actually the result of buggy Nullsoft code, not the sonic engine.

WOW! That is great news. Can you see any problems that I might encounter? Ripping gapless CDs? anything? It would be nice to not have to unselect sonic in the installer.

[CraigF]

Originally posted by woeger
Is there a plan to include album art (and possibly lyrics display) support for FLAC files once they are added into the new, soon to be released, FLAC 1.1.3 official specification/release (which is now currently in beta)?

I suppose that should album art and lyrics tags be eventually supported in winamp, with a viable plugin api, it would only make sense to update the flac plugin to utilise those api's and provide that data. However, its purely speculative at this time.

[clementj]

Has anyone else tested the CD text feature? I found that while it works, it does not show the text in the CD window of the library. The text only shows up when the track is put into the playlist? Is there something that needs to be set to get it to work the way one would expect?

[ujay]

CD Text seems to be working fine here.

The only bug so far is the one noted earlier in this thread.

UJ

[clementj]

Hmmm, I just tried it again on both drives with the same results. The text appears only in the playlist, and not in the media library CD window. But if I right click and click on EDit CD info, it appears. Perhaps it is related to the fact that this ia a homemade CD wit text and has only a disc title and track titles, no Artist, Record Label, Year, Album-Artist, or Genre. I am pretty sure this is it. The Artist field appears on the left of th e "CD/track titles" window and it is probably checked for text without checking the track title. Could anyone else verify my observation????? But when the track is transferred to the playlist the track title may be checked first or it may be the only part checked.

[ujay]

I can remember something similar to that now you mention it, while trying to get a sensible display for VA CDs (this was before the album artist field was added). If the first field was blank it assumed there were no other entries. Can't remember if it every got fixed.
The database has completely changed with this version so the situation may be different again.

[edit] Looks like it never was fixed, still there as far as I can see.

UJ

[J_Darnley]

I was wondering if there was a way to disable AVI metadata reading. Some of my videos have title data which then screws up my nicely named files.

I use ATF to show the filename for videos which then gets carried over to the library. But for these AVIs the title field gets written from the metadata.

I could just remux them but then I can't continue seeding them on Bittorrent.

[DJ Egg]

ML > Local Media > Video > right-click video > Edit Selected Item

Change the Title to taste. Only the ml database should be updated, and not the actual metadata in the video file.

But yeah, an option to read avi metadata or not would be nice, heh.

[bemymonkey]

Hmmm... is there any way to have Winamp show me all the files that haven't been ReplayGained yet? I've got a pretty damn big collection, and so far I'd have to play every single song to check if it's been ReplayGained (most of them have been, but every now and then one pops up that's not...).

Is there a way to get the Playlist Editor to show the ReplayGain values on load instead of on play? Changing the "Read metadata..." setting in the Titles section doesn't do anything in this regard.

Any ideas?

Other than that... Winamp rocks...

[DJ Egg]

1. No, but there will be in 5.32

2. The playlist should already show the rg values on load when using %replaygain_track_gain% in ATF, but maybe not if you're loading files from the ml database - which doesn't support rg in 5.31, see 1.

[bemymonkey]

Originally posted by DJ Egg
1. No, but there will be in 5.32

Cool

Originally posted by DJ Egg

2. The playlist should already show the rg values on load when using %replaygain_track_gain% in ATF

Ahhh, it works if you add the files from Windows Explorer, but not from the ML... bug or expected functionality? Although... it sort of makes sense, since the ML doesn't "know" about RG values yet... Thanks for the tip!

[Juanus]

Originally posted by Juanus
WOW! That is great news. Can you see any problems that I might encounter? Ripping gapless CDs? anything? It would be nice to not have to unselect sonic in the installer.

Two unrelated questions.
1) which is faster to rip with? The sonic engine or the old ASPI method? And which one works better for you?

2) I know there has been a small amount of chatter about the ML switching over to SQL. what would be the advantages to this new method and is it planned for the near future or is it very far off?

Thanks!

[flocksoft]

Originally posted by bemymonkey
Hmmm... is there any way to have Winamp show me all the files that haven't been ReplayGained yet? I've got a pretty damn big collection, and so far I'd have to play every single song to check if it's been ReplayGained (most of them have been, but every now and then one pops up that's not...).

here's a workaround: waiting Winamp 5.32 you can use foobar2000 for such purpose; with foobar2000 you can sort the songs by replaygain (album or track) status

the simplest way is to install column UI interface (together with libpng) and a playlist layout showing replaygain informations, like the Navigator-Suite; after importing your audio files, clicking on replaygain column heaher it's easy to discover the files without RG:

♪♪ = file with replaygain track info
♫ = file with replaygain album info



now...
1) you can mark the files without replaygain, right-click and select an appropriate option from the ReplayGain entry in menu OR...
2) you can export the files without replaygain in a playlist, and import this just-created playlist in Winamp to replaygain-processing

[bemymonkey]

Originally posted by flocksoft
here's a workaround: waiting Winamp 5.32 you can use [ url=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2643/rgfk4.th.png][Image][/ url]

now...
1) you can mark the files without replaygain, right-click and select an appropriate option from the ReplayGain entry in menu OR...
2) you can export the files without replaygain in a playlist, and import this just-created playlist in Winamp to replaygain-processing

THANK YOU, you rock!

I checked out Foobar already, but I didn't know you needed a separate plugin for that...

[gaekwad2]

Originally posted by Juanus
1) which is faster to rip with? The sonic engine or the old ASPI method? And which one works better for you?

For me ASPI is faster but for others Sonic is.

Originally posted by bemymonkey
I checked out Foobar already, but I didn't know you needed a separate plugin for that...

You don't really need it, you can also add %__replaygain_album_gain% (or track_gain) to the default title formatting, then select all tracks, right-click > sort by that tag.

Actually you can even do that in Winamp, just put %gain% at the start of your ATF string and sort the playlist by title.

[bemymonkey]

Originally posted by gaekwad2
For me ASPI is faster but for others Sonic is.


You don't really need it, you can also add %__replaygain_album_gain% (or track_gain) to the default title formatting, then select all tracks, right-click > sort by that tag.

Actually you can even do that in Winamp, just put %gain% at the start of your ATF string and sort the playlist by title.

Hmmm, I got those FOobar extensions working with a bit of fiddling, so thanks for the tip

THe probelm with doing that with the playlist editor ist that with 35k+ files, I can't really load a playlist that big... Hitting "Play in Winamp" in the Explorer context menu results in Winamp freezing and nothing happening (probably because the files are on NAS...). And if I load the files from the ML, it doesn't display the RG info... heheh

[flocksoft]

Originally posted by bemymonkey
THANK YOU, you rock!

I checked out Foobar already, but I didn't know you needed a separate plugin for that...

you're welcome!
indeed the playlist layout suggested it's only to avoid the setup of standard foobar interface and the consequential sorting by replaygain values using the menu command together with the appropriate syntax...

bye

[Moguta]

Nice new update, and glad to see the MP3 comment field is back to displaying all 3 lines! ^_^

I have just one request for the native FLAC plugin, along a similar line of thought:
Could you make the comment field multi-line? It was in the FLAC plugin that I was using, and, really, it's nice to have *some* tag in a file that can support many lines of information, be it for lyrics or multiple kinds of information or what have you.

Thanks.

[Serpher]

Ok... mayby that will sound silly but...
When will be new version of Winamp (5.32)?

[DJ Egg]

When it's ready, dar :-p

[Omega X]

I was hoping that the devs could whip up Musepack RG support for the new Global RG.

But according to the crazy Musepack.net admins, they think that no one would care to make a new Musepack plugin.

I wish that I could do it myself but I have very little experience in programming.

[DJ Egg]

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....light=musepack

[Omega X]

Originally posted by DJ Egg
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....light=musepack

Ahh, it seems that I missed that conversation by a month.

[pEar 242]

The greatest problem winamp it playlist. Absence of options (antithetic - foobar 2000). Awful and it is awful :-(
It would be desirable to see scroll buttons like in ml playlist.
sorry for my english.

[DrO]

everyone is entitled to their own views though i quite like the playlist editor as it is

-daz

[pEar 242]

but Classic scroll buttons - are not convenient. IMHO.
VERY MUCH I WISH TO SEE PLAYLIST LIKE SCROLL BUTTONS IN ALBUM LIST.

[DrO]

to do that involves changing the handling of the playlist editor window which has been talked about but in all honesty there are far more important things to be worked on without breaking the existing classic skin support (which changing how the playlist editor is display could _possibly_ cause). also i'm sure it's in the wishlist thread so there's not much point pushing it in this thread.

-daz

[jph6t]

Originally posted by ujay
A "CD Text: Present/Not Present" entry in the Medium Info (Rip & Burn screen) would be handy.
Likewise some indication whether CDDB or CD Text is being shown in the ML. It's all a bit confused ATM.

Probably higher priority items out there ...
but agreed, this would be a handy feature

[Koopa]

Originally posted by jph6t
Probably higher priority items out there ...
but agreed, this would be a handy feature

Simply uncheck "Use CDDB" in Preferences -> Plugins -> Input > Nullsoft CD Plug-in

Then you can open the info dialog (Alt + 3)and press "CDDB" or "CD-Text", so you can choose beetween both.

Otherwise, Winamp will always read CDDB infos first and then it will fall back to CD-Text if CDDB infos are not aviable.

[jph6t]

Originally posted by Koopatrooper
Simply uncheck "Use CDDB" in Preferences -> Plugins -> Input > Nullsoft CD Plug-in ...

Koopa, I don't think you got what ujay was requesting.

First, he was asking for an indicator of whether or not CD-Text is available on the CD.

Second, he suggested an indicator of what source (CDDB or CD-Text) was used
to populate the CD's information within the ML. Whether the info was populated
manually through a choice between the two options on the info dialog window
OR automatically via Winamps order of operations (local db > CDDB > CD-Text)
is NOT the point. The point is knowing after the fact from where the info came.

[MertcanKaya1991]

I think that don't wait too much for release the 5.32. Because it can be 5.4

[Chrissyx]

DJ Egg, regarding the Disc # field, you've said:

Disc # field should have a whole number such as 1 (or: 2, 3, 4, 12, etc)
or: Disc x of x, in the form of: 1/2, 2/2, etc.

What should i do, by having a track from a CD single? (Just ONE CD, not an album with more CDs or somethign else)
Putting in "1"? Wouldn't this indicate, there are more CDs?
Putting in "0"? To show, this track is from one disc.
Or leaving the field blank? But that's kinda useless.

btw somebody know, if there are some general guidelines how to use all the fields correct?

[Sawg]

I would leave it blank. The only time you would use Disc is for multi-disc compilations.

[CraigF]

1/1 works fine too no?

[Koopa]

Originally posted by jph6t
Koopa, I don't think you got what ujay was requesting.

First, he was asking for an indicator of whether or not CD-Text is available on the CD.

Second, he suggested an indicator of what source (CDDB or CD-Text) was used
to populate the CD's information within the ML. Whether the info was populated
manually through a choice between the two options on the info dialog window
OR automatically via Winamps order of operations (local db > CDDB > CD-Text)
is NOT the point. The point is knowing after the fact from where the info came.

I'm aware about his request, with this workaround you can choose if you want CD-text or CDDB, otherwise you will always get CDDB if your always connected to the internet. If you push the button, you know, what info is used.

Sure it's just a workaround and an indicator would be a nice feature, though

[pEar 242]

I do not wish to be naive. But why in Winamp so it is a lot of errors?

[naumaxos]

are there any plans to fix the bug i've mentioned before where
when you have enqueued songs in the playlist and you add songs right above them the enqueud list disappears? (i've mentioned it before so i don't think it's necessary to write anything about pc ,system and stuff)

[DJ Egg]

It's listed under Known Bugs, and will hopefully be fixed next time DrO works on gen_jumpex (jtfe) again...

@pEar 242
Umm, what do you mean?