Help with media player ID?

sheffieldbleep · 1st December 2006, 07:36

Looking at my log file I see some users like this: -

starting stream (UID: 902)[L: 1]{A: }(P: 0)

Where the {A: } should be Winamp/iTunes or what ever it's just blank?

Just curious to what player or ripper they're using?
Cheers.

bored_womble · 1st December 2006, 09:27

looking around it appears to be a new method to get round some of the 'anti stream ripping' technology that matches by client ID, ie. streamripper etc, as now it does not match any of them, thus will never be kicked.

BW

djSpinnerCee · 1st December 2006, 13:31

It's not required for a client player or browser to send a UserAgent string with a request, however, a proper client should send one, so you could assume the absence of a UserAgent is a direct attempt to hide from or trick your server, so you can and should ban a client that does not provide a UserAgent header or a blank one.

From a coding standpoint, not being able to ban an empty string is a huge hole that's easy to fix:

if strlen(trim(%UserAgent%))==0 BAN=TRUE;

sheffieldbleep · 2nd December 2006, 17:56

Thanks for the replies.

tvee67 · 21st February 2008, 07:48

Quote:

if strlen(trim(%UserAgent%))==0 BAN=TRUE;

Where do we put this line?

Thanks

fc*uk · 21st February 2008, 21:32

it not something that you can put into a program. It is something that needs to be added to th e program's code itself, which is impossible unless you get the source.

tvee67 · 21st February 2008, 23:16

got it!
Thanks

ejonesss · 6th January 2009, 18:37

can that be solved by using some kind of if/then processing something like

if user agent is not itunes or winamp or what ever then add ip to ban list and kick ip.

Quote:

Originally posted by bored_womble
looking around it appears to be a new method to get round some of the 'anti stream ripping' technology that matches by client ID, ie. streamripper etc, as now it does not match any of them, thus will never be kicked.

BW

Jkey · 6th January 2009, 20:15

some streamrippers enable you to set the user-agent so someone could easy set winamp or itunes or another player as their user-agent.

You cant stop streamripping under the current SHOUTcast 1.0 system,and trying to do so will drive you crazy over time
for every bit of new script that bulks up your system the rippers will find a way around it.

1st December 2006, 07:36	#1
sheffieldbleep Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 19	Help with media player ID? Looking at my log file I see some users like this: - starting stream (UID: 902)[L: 1]{A: }(P: 0) Where the {A: } should be Winamp/iTunes or what ever it's just blank? Just curious to what player or ripper they're using? Cheers.

1st December 2006, 09:27	#2
bored_womble Winamp's Womble Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wimbledon Common Posts: 1,100	looking around it appears to be a new method to get round some of the 'anti stream ripping' technology that matches by client ID, ie. streamripper etc, as now it does not match any of them, thus will never be kicked. BW Without open minds the world will die. Open yours and correct the mistakes you are making right now.

1st December 2006, 13:31	#3
djSpinnerCee Forum King Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollis, Queens/The Bronx, NYC Posts: 3,555	It's not required for a client player or browser to send a UserAgent string with a request, however, a proper client should send one, so you could assume the absence of a UserAgent is a direct attempt to hide from or trick your server, so you can and should ban a client that does not provide a UserAgent header or a blank one. From a coding standpoint, not being able to ban an empty string is a huge hole that's easy to fix: if strlen(trim(%UserAgent%))==0 BAN=TRUE; /* v2 HTML5 / Player test pages DigitalMixNYC, DigitalMixNYCbx \| DNAS Status: Now Playing js codes (scaststatus_X.php) \| PortForward.com \| Upload/Download Speed Test \| No-IP.com: Free Dynamic DNS \| In the YP \| dnasDir */

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fcuk Moderator* Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlantic Beach Posts: 8,140	it not something that you can put into a program. It is something that needs to be added to th e program's code itself, which is impossible unless you get the source. Trancectro/electro-house/electro \| Are You Hard?

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2nd December 2006, 17:56	#4
sheffieldbleep Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 19	Thanks for the replies.

21st February 2008, 23:16	#7
tvee67 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 20	got it! Thanks

6th January 2009, 20:15	#9
Jkey Forum King Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: E*arth Posts: 3,031	some streamrippers enable you to set the user-agent so someone could easy set winamp or itunes or another player as their user-agent. You cant stop streamripping under the current SHOUTcast 1.0 system,and trying to do so will drive you crazy over time for every bit of new script that bulks up your system the rippers will find a way around it.