Using replay gain / freezing while ripping

beeker41 · 18th February 2007, 05:13

I just noticed in v5.33 that there is an option to include the replay gain info in the id tag. That's great, but are there more uses of that in Winamp. Such as doing album gain instead of track gain or where can I even get winamp to recognize the replay gain info. Only recently I discovered MP3Gain (and i love it), but i'm a long time user of Winamp and would like to take advantage of such features.
Also, I haven't tried to rip a CD in some time, but is it a common problem that it freezes during ripping? From other forums, v5.33 doesn't seem to be very stable.

DJ Egg · 18th February 2007, 06:15

The default RG analysis/application-mode is 'Album Mode'.

You can access the (minimal) settings via:
Winamp > Prefs > Plugins > Media Library > ReplayGain Analyzer > config.
If you uncheck the "Ask..." option, then Album mode is automatically applied.
Otherwise you will be asked either after each album or after all tracks/albums are done (depending on which option is checkmarked). You can select to apply Track mode in the RG Analysis results window, though Album mode is default & recommended (Album mode also applies Track mode, but not vice-versa).

RG can be applied by right-clicking Media Library or Playlist items and selecting:
Send To > Calculate Replay Gain

RG can automatically be applied to ripped CDs by checkmarking that option in:
Prefs > CD Ripping > Output File Settings.

Enabling that option is maybe what causes the ripping to seem to temporarily freeze inbetween tracks, because it's actually calculating the RG values for the newly created mp3 (or whichever format you're ripping to) before it starts ripping the next track.

ReplayGain usage (and the mode to apply) can actually be enabled/disabled via:
Winamp > Prefs > Playback

Other than that... Winamp 5.33 is probably the most stable version of Winamp ever.
I haven't come across any problems yet, as I'm sure thousands of other users can/will agree.

Most problems reported here are caused by dodgy/incompatible/old 3rd-party plugins, or the user's system is already in an unstable state (due to e.g. malware, imminent hardware failure, bad drivers, etc).

beeker41 · 18th February 2007, 20:40

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize those options existed, mainly because searching for Replay Gain in Winamp help was a deadend.
And so I understand this correctly, the Replay Gain applied by Winamp is only functional in Winamp? Because it reads the gain info. As opposed to MP3Gain which modifies the tracks for use on any platform. If I am saying all of this correctly, then Winamp cannot permanently adjust the volume level.
My objective here is to simply use these MP3 programs most effectively. Right now for ripping I have 3 steps, use Winamp to rip (and play later), adjust tag info and add album art with Media Monkey, and then apply MP3gain. Does anyone else have any better suggestions?
All audio player programs are improving and converging, but it's frustrating that some offer options that others don't. However, it is going to take a lot to dethrone Winamp in my eyes.

DJ Egg · 18th February 2007, 23:29

Depends...

I just place a cover.jpg file in the Album folder, instead of bloating my mp3's by sticking the same jpg in every track on the album. If I want to view the cover (I'd rather watch some mental visuals instead) then I'll use a Modern skin which shows covers.

I also use Winamp's Media Library to edit all my tags, ie. I've no use for something like MediaMonkey.

Also note that ReplayGain is supported by more players than just Winamp. Besides that, I've never trusted mp3gain personally, heh, and it doesn't work for ogg, flac, wma, m4a/aac anyway - whereas RG does.

18th February 2007, 05:13	#1
beeker41 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	Using replay gain / freezing while ripping I just noticed in v5.33 that there is an option to include the replay gain info in the id tag. That's great, but are there more uses of that in Winamp. Such as doing album gain instead of track gain or where can I even get winamp to recognize the replay gain info. Only recently I discovered MP3Gain (and i love it), but i'm a long time user of Winamp and would like to take advantage of such features. Also, I haven't tried to rip a CD in some time, but is it a common problem that it freezes during ripping? From other forums, v5.33 doesn't seem to be very stable.

18th February 2007, 06:15	#2
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	The default RG analysis/application-mode is 'Album Mode'. You can access the (minimal) settings via: Winamp > Prefs > Plugins > Media Library > ReplayGain Analyzer > config. If you uncheck the "Ask..." option, then Album mode is automatically applied. Otherwise you will be asked either after each album or after all tracks/albums are done (depending on which option is checkmarked). You can select to apply Track mode in the RG Analysis results window, though Album mode is default & recommended (Album mode also applies Track mode, but not vice-versa). RG can be applied by right-clicking Media Library or Playlist items and selecting: Send To > Calculate Replay Gain RG can automatically be applied to ripped CDs by checkmarking that option in: Prefs > CD Ripping > Output File Settings. Enabling that option is maybe what causes the ripping to seem to temporarily freeze inbetween tracks, because it's actually calculating the RG values for the newly created mp3 (or whichever format you're ripping to) before it starts ripping the next track. ReplayGain usage (and the mode to apply) can actually be enabled/disabled via: Winamp > Prefs > Playback Other than that... Winamp 5.33 is probably the most stable version of Winamp ever. I haven't come across any problems yet, as I'm sure thousands of other users can/will agree. Most problems reported here are caused by dodgy/incompatible/old 3rd-party plugins, or the user's system is already in an unstable state (due to e.g. malware, imminent hardware failure, bad drivers, etc). Playlist -\|- Twitter

18th February 2007, 23:29	#4
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Depends... I just place a cover.jpg file in the Album folder, instead of bloating my mp3's by sticking the same jpg in every track on the album. If I want to view the cover (I'd rather watch some mental visuals instead) then I'll use a Modern skin which shows covers. I also use Winamp's Media Library to edit all my tags, ie. I've no use for something like MediaMonkey. Also note that ReplayGain is supported by more players than just Winamp. Besides that, I've never trusted mp3gain personally, heh, and it doesn't work for ogg, flac, wma, m4a/aac anyway - whereas RG does. Playlist -\|- Twitter

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18th February 2007, 20:40	#3
beeker41 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	Thanks for the info. I didn't realize those options existed, mainly because searching for Replay Gain in Winamp help was a deadend. And so I understand this correctly, the Replay Gain applied by Winamp is only functional in Winamp? Because it reads the gain info. As opposed to MP3Gain which modifies the tracks for use on any platform. If I am saying all of this correctly, then Winamp cannot permanently adjust the volume level. My objective here is to simply use these MP3 programs most effectively. Right now for ripping I have 3 steps, use Winamp to rip (and play later), adjust tag info and add album art with Media Monkey, and then apply MP3gain. Does anyone else have any better suggestions? All audio player programs are improving and converging, but it's frustrating that some offer options that others don't. However, it is going to take a lot to dethrone Winamp in my eyes.