I want to appreciate Jazz

lukeprog · 19th November 2004, 23:11

Typically most of the music I enjoy is either rock or electronica (but, that can be anything from Metallica to Queen to Sigur Ros to Xploding Plastix to DJ Tiesto).

I've only recently begun to enjoy some jazz (Benny Goodman, Peggy Lee, a few others). I really don't know anything ABOUT jazz. I only randomly come across jazz tunes that I like.

So far, some of my favorite Jazz apparently belongs to a style called 'Third Stream',: Moondog's self-titled album. I particularily love 'Symphonique #6'.

That track has three things I love: complexity, melody, and, most importantly, it slowly builds on itself to become more full-bodied and ends with a terrifically 'powerful' finish. That last part seems pretty rare in the jazz I've heard. This is probably a very difficult question, but can any Jazz lovers out there recommend some artists & tracks that I might enjoy based on my appreciation for Symphonique #6? (and, to some degree, Third Stream in general)

If you can, thanks!

I'd really like to broaden my musical horizons, though I'm not sure I'll ever develop a taste for hip-hop, rap, or country.

k_rock923 · 20th November 2004, 00:54

Well, I play in a jazz band, but we don't play stuff exactly like that.

My favorite artist is without a doubt Bird.

lukeprog · 20th November 2004, 04:42

There a dozen artists with that name or nickname. Please, which one? Like, what are a few of Bird's albums?

Xerxes · 20th November 2004, 17:42

I highly reccomend a good Glenn Miller album if you enjoy the Big Band sound. I really like the "Past Perfect" label for remastered vintage jazz.

http://www.pastperfect.com/

The thing with jazz is that it is, IMHO, the most "all encompassing" genre of music. Big Band and Tenors from the the 20's - 40's, swing, classic singers like Armstrong and Fitzgerald, the Blues, Latin Jazz, "World Music", and even the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh (

), It spans a lot of different tastes.

KKJZ Long Beach is a great local station in Southern California that has a live internet stream. It's member supported so it's commercial free. You might also listen to the archived streams, esp. the "88 Greats" which is a who's who of classic jazz.

http://www.jazzandblues.org/listen/

(They also run the stream in MP3 PRO for winamp)
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=99390

Banjo · 20th November 2004, 17:59

freddie hubbard's cti albums are pretty easy to get into for people who aren't already jazz heads

red clay
straight life
first light

lukeprog · 20th November 2004, 18:14

Thanks for the tips, guys!

Are any of you aware of any specific artists or tracks that have the steady buildup and powerful finish of Symphonique #6 by Moondog?

(I'll definitely look into ALL your other suggestions, still).

k_rock923 · 20th November 2004, 19:21

I'm sorry. I mean Charlie Parker. He's a sax player who is absolutely incredible. If you like any type of fast jazz saxophone, I would definitely reccomend him. If you don't already like jazz sax, you might want to download a song or two and see what you think. You may learn to love it.

Semantics · 23rd November 2004, 23:04

Try either:

St. Germain

-or-

RJD2

-or-

DJ Cam

....they are kinda like acid jazz/trip-hop. Its really good, chillax lounge music. And don't forget the classics: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Thelonoius Monk, Bill Evans, etc.

gaekwad2 · 23rd November 2004, 23:54

Ornette Coleman

Pixelcraft · 27th November 2004, 02:07

You've made a good choice.

Jazz is good music.

My favorite Acid Jazz group - Gota (they do some great improvisation). Another good artist is Sammy Nestico.

Some of my favorite jazz songs have been:

Van Morrison - Moondance
Sammy Nestico - A little blues please
Les Taylor - Fudge Said the Judge
Dizzie Gillespie - Manteca
Rob Vuono jr. - Calling Dr. Chops
Jay Bocook - Sun Cat

wooga_d · 19th January 2007, 08:53

Pixelcraft, do you know where I can find a recording of Sun Cat - Jay Bocook?

Schmeet · 19th January 2007, 10:04

Jaga Jazzist. Jazz electronic

wooga_d · 19th January 2007, 10:47

Would you happen to know what album?

Schmeet · 19th January 2007, 11:18

I only have The Stix which is pretty damn good. Best bet would be to go on their last.fm page and preview some of their releases...

http://www.last.fm/music/Jaga+Jazzist/+albums

wooga_d · 19th January 2007, 22:06

I looked and I still couldnt find Sun Cat. Ive been looking for a recording of that for a while now and havent seen anything other than a few high school jazz bands saying they played it.

swingdjted · 26th January 2007, 20:32

There are tons of jazz albums available at most public libraries (at least there are here). Try listening to some of those when you get a chance and decide what you like most.

jph6t · 25th February 2007, 05:35

Quote:

Originally posted by swingdjted
There are tons of jazz albums available at most public libraries (at least there are here). Try listening to some of those when you get a chance and decide what you like most.

Dito.

Focus on noticing if you prefer certain sub-generes of jazz ... or even certain intruments ... for example, if you really like the sound of a sax fronting, then check out all the notable sax players (they each are slightly different)

19th November 2004, 23:11	#1
lukeprog Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 142	I want to appreciate Jazz Typically most of the music I enjoy is either rock or electronica (but, that can be anything from Metallica to Queen to Sigur Ros to Xploding Plastix to DJ Tiesto). I've only recently begun to enjoy some jazz (Benny Goodman, Peggy Lee, a few others). I really don't know anything ABOUT jazz. I only randomly come across jazz tunes that I like. So far, some of my favorite Jazz apparently belongs to a style called 'Third Stream',: Moondog's self-titled album. I particularily love 'Symphonique #6'. That track has three things I love: complexity, melody, and, most importantly, it slowly builds on itself to become more full-bodied and ends with a terrifically 'powerful' finish. That last part seems pretty rare in the jazz I've heard. This is probably a very difficult question, but can any Jazz lovers out there recommend some artists & tracks that I might enjoy based on my appreciation for Symphonique #6? (and, to some degree, Third Stream in general) If you can, thanks! I'd really like to broaden my musical horizons, though I'm not sure I'll ever develop a taste for hip-hop, rap, or country.

20th November 2004, 00:54	#2
k_rock923 \m/ (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: /bin/bash Posts: 7,850	Well, I play in a jazz band, but we don't play stuff exactly like that. My favorite artist is without a doubt Bird. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

20th November 2004, 17:42	#4
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	I highly reccomend a good Glenn Miller album if you enjoy the Big Band sound. I really like the "Past Perfect" label for remastered vintage jazz. http://www.pastperfect.com/ The thing with jazz is that it is, IMHO, the most "all encompassing" genre of music. Big Band and Tenors from the the 20's - 40's, swing, classic singers like Armstrong and Fitzgerald, the Blues, Latin Jazz, "World Music", and even the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh (), It spans a lot of different tastes. KKJZ Long Beach is a great local station in Southern California that has a live internet stream. It's member supported so it's commercial free. You might also listen to the archived streams, esp. the "88 Greats" which is a who's who of classic jazz. http://www.jazzandblues.org/listen/ (They also run the stream in MP3 PRO for winamp) http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=99390

20th November 2004, 19:21	#7
k_rock923 \m/ (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: /bin/bash Posts: 7,850	I'm sorry. I mean Charlie Parker. He's a sax player who is absolutely incredible. If you like any type of fast jazz saxophone, I would definitely reccomend him. If you don't already like jazz sax, you might want to download a song or two and see what you think. You may learn to love it. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

27th November 2004, 02:07	#10
Pixelcraft Wildly Confused (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,204	You've made a good choice. Jazz is good music. My favorite Acid Jazz group - Gota (they do some great improvisation). Another good artist is Sammy Nestico. Some of my favorite jazz songs have been: Van Morrison - Moondance Sammy Nestico - A little blues please Les Taylor - Fudge Said the Judge Dizzie Gillespie - Manteca Rob Vuono jr. - Calling Dr. Chops Jay Bocook - Sun Cat "It's like saying give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton, and of course that's not true, give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become...whoever; he doesn't become us." - Roger Waters

20th November 2004, 04:42	#3
lukeprog Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 142	There a dozen artists with that name or nickname. Please, which one? Like, what are a few of Bird's albums?

20th November 2004, 17:59	#5
Banjo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Inverness Posts: 175	freddie hubbard's cti albums are pretty easy to get into for people who aren't already jazz heads red clay straight life first light

20th November 2004, 18:14	#6
lukeprog Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 142	Thanks for the tips, guys! Are any of you aware of any specific artists or tracks that have the steady buildup and powerful finish of Symphonique #6 by Moondog? (I'll definitely look into ALL your other suggestions, still).

23rd November 2004, 23:04	#8
Semantics Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 123	Try either: St. Germain -or- RJD2 -or- DJ Cam ....they are kinda like acid jazz/trip-hop. Its really good, chillax lounge music. And don't forget the classics: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Thelonoius Monk, Bill Evans, etc.

23rd November 2004, 23:54	#9
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,457	Ornette Coleman

19th January 2007, 08:53	#11
wooga_d Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Pixelcraft, do you know where I can find a recording of Sun Cat - Jay Bocook?

19th January 2007, 10:04	#12
Schmeet Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The timid west Posts: 1,444	Jaga Jazzist. Jazz electronic

19th January 2007, 10:47	#13
wooga_d Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Would you happen to know what album?

19th January 2007, 11:18	#14
Schmeet Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The timid west Posts: 1,444	I only have The Stix which is pretty damn good. Best bet would be to go on their last.fm page and preview some of their releases... http://www.last.fm/music/Jaga+Jazzist/+albums

19th January 2007, 22:06	#15
wooga_d Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	I looked and I still couldnt find Sun Cat. Ive been looking for a recording of that for a while now and havent seen anything other than a few high school jazz bands saying they played it.

26th January 2007, 20:32	#16
swingdjted DRINK BEER NOW (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern West Virginia Posts: 10,064	There are tons of jazz albums available at most public libraries (at least there are here). Try listening to some of those when you get a chance and decide what you like most. Don't forget to live before you die.

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