Help please connecting my dsp plugin to shoutcastdnas sever

[martinsingh92]

The ip addrss in WAN SETUP next to "Deafult DMZ Server" is 192.168.0 and thats it.My MTU size is 1458.The ip address that i type in my web browser to forward ports etc and look at other stuff on my router is 192.168.0.1. .In WAN SETUP it doesn't have anything on DNS.But out of that option on the tabs to choose from there is a option called "Dynamic DNS",the "use dynamic dns" is not ticked,in the service provider field it says www.dyndns.org,and host name,username and password fields are all empty.It also gives me an option to use wildcards,that's not ticked to use either.

In LAN IP SETUP my ip address is 192.168.0.1,my ip subnet mask is 255.255.255.0,my RIP direction is NONE,my RIP Version is "RIP-1".Further down the page a box is ticked for me to use "Router as DHCP Server",then it says starting ip "192.168.0.2".Ending ip address is 192.168.0.254. Then below that is says "Address Reservation",nothing has been added into that section its all empty.

Does this help you?

[martinsingh92]

Is that it then nomore help now,thanks alot

[networknova]

on windows xp, goto Start->run and type cmd
this opens a black cmd window. in this window type ipconfig
note the 192.168... ip that shows as the "IP Address"

then loginto your netgear router and find "advanced routing" or "port forwarding"
then forward ports 8000 and 8001 to the ip address you noted from the cmd window.

you dont need to set a DMZ server address, this should be empty

hope this helps.

[martinsingh92]

Hey thanks for replying mate but i've already forwarded these ports udp/tcp on both,have you read so far what's happening with my situation?

The ip address is 192.168.0.2

[fc*uk]

if you are getting a nak error then you still have not setup port forwarding properly.

Unfortunately, this is something that is very very difficult for us to solve beyond what we have already given you. See, the reason for this is because we do not know your hardware and we do not know what software you are running to be able to help you out.

It seems to me that your modem is causing problems somewhere. I would either call the ISP that shipped you the modem or the manufacturer of the modem as ask them how to setup port forwarding for their firewall.

If you have done what they tell you, then software is causing your problem. Remember NIS, ZoneAlarm, and Windows XP SP2 are all software firewalls.

[Nick@ss]

also your isp may cache your ip address and you may need to change the yport in your config to 666

all this kind of informtion can be found here,
Evil Lu's Fixing Nak Errors

[djSpinnerCee]

You/we still need to find out more about what's going on:

You still need to find where your router displays the status of the WAN interface -- the internet-side IP is very important -- it'll tell us (implicitly) if your modem is also a router -- that's important because if your modem is also a router, you will have to change things like eliminating the router altogether -- now if you need the router because it ia also your access point for Wi-Fi, you'll have to make some other changes as well -- now if your DNAS box is connected using Wi-Fi, it will be difficult to sustain listeners.

What is the make and model of your modem? Is it cable or DSL, or something else?

Are you on a campus or at home?

Who's your ISP? Are you in the USA?

The router MTU is peculiar, it won't make or break what you're trying to do, but I've only seen two possible values for broadband -- 1500 for cable and 1492 for PPPoE DSL.

We're making assumptions that you're at home, have one router (that is directly connected to the internet), and your DNAS box is wired to the router via Ethernet.

[martinsingh92]

The make of my router is Netgear DG834N,I'm at home,my service privder is bulldog,also living in england.I am wired to the router.Its a dsl router.

[djSpinnerCee]

The modem is important now -- you need to know for sure if it is or is not also a router (just to let you know, many are, especially if it's new) -- make and model?

We're totally in the dark without knowing the reported WAN (internet) IP of the router -- the router gets that through the modem -- the specific IP will tell us what's going on.

The most simple reason for your router's port forwarding to not work even though it is configured correctly is when the modem is also a router -- so you have to ascertain that now -- your SHOUTcast setup is done and correct, your router is configured correctly, it's not working bnecause your modem is also likely doing something to prevent you from being accessable.

Gotta get there.

[martinsingh92]

The make of my router is Netgear DG834N,I'm at home,my service privder is bulldog,also living in england.I am wired to the router.Its a dsl router.

its a router trust me because on the box it has wireless router

[Nick@ss]

i may have missed the answer to this question,

what make is the modem?

[martinsingh92]

4TH TIME NOW! NETGEAR and the model number is DG834N.

[djSpinnerCee]

Router/modem:

ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/dg834n_ref_manual.pdf - manual

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834N.asp - support

Now you need to re-check your port forward config to make sure that it reflects the static IP you have set.

-- There are other things that may still be in the way -- the router's DHCP range is a concern: since the router's DHCP server is still running and assigning IPs, if there are any other PCs that may get an IP (even if they associate wirelessly), you should choose a better static IP for your DNAS box than one that's low in the range because it's very likely that another box will get assigned the same IP and cause all kinds of problems.

[martinsingh92]

Where can i find my port forward configuration,i haven't setup a static ip address i dont think,unless that was with no-ip.com which im registred with them and added my website as a domain service with them.

The box is ticked for "use my router as a DHCP Server",the box for that service is ticked,so it's in action. The starting ip address for that service is 192.168.0.2 and the ending ip address for that service is 192.168.0.254.That's the information it gives me on my DHCP server on the Netgear router. Considering what you have just been saying does this mean that this box should be unticked so i shouldn;t use a DHCP server on my router?

Also i have a laptop that is currently connected wirlessly,my xbox 360 is connected by wire and the desktop i am on now is connected wirelessly but can be connected by an ethernet cable straight away.

Hope this helps thanks.

[djSpinnerCee]

OK... You're in good shape now, so pay attention...

A static IP config needs to be setup on the PC that's running the DNAS -- If you keep it setup to get an IP automatically, it may get a different address everytime it reboots -- this is a bad thing because Services (=port forwarding) on your router forwards ports to one LAN IP -- you want to forward the SHOUTcast ports to your DNAS PC, so it must have an IP that will not change -- You have options -- config the DNAS PC with a static IP like 192.168.0.250 -- or configure the router to reserve an IP for the DNAS PC -- to reserve an IP, you'll need to know its MAC address -- which appears in the router's DHCP status when it gives the DNAS PC an IP.

You must confuiure the DNAS PC with a static IP because you have multiple PCs, if you don't, you'll go through all this work to get it working, then as soon as you reboot the DNAS box, you'll have to go through it all again.

[martinsingh92]

the router way seems easier,so basically what do i have to do?

[martinsingh92]

Originally posted by djSpinnerCee
OK... You're in good shape now, so pay attention...

A static IP config needs to be setup on the PC that's running the DNAS -- If you keep it setup to get an IP automatically, it may get a different address everytime it reboots -- this is a bad thing because Services (=port forwarding) on your router forwards ports to one LAN IP -- you want to forward the SHOUTcast ports to your DNAS PC, so it must have an IP that will not change -- You have options -- config the DNAS PC with a static IP like 192.168.0.250 -- or configure the router to reserve an IP for the DNAS PC -- to reserve an IP, you'll need to know its MAC address -- which appears in the router's DHCP status when it gives the DNAS PC an IP.

You must confuiure the DNAS PC with a static IP because you have multiple PCs, if you don't, you'll go through all this work to get it working, then as soon as you reboot the DNAS box, you'll have to go through it all again.

okay on the settings of Dyanmic DNS service on my router, it says service provider which is automatically done to www.dyndns.org,and i have to fill out three other fields titled Host name,username,password.WHat do i put in them fields to set up a dynamic dns service?

[djSpinnerCee]

No
No
No

Stay away from the router for now -- it's ok. Do not do anything with dynamic DNS or DMZ on the router -- they have nothing to do with your issue.

Go to the PC that's running the DNAS (SHOUTcast server). Ans follow the directions I posted above for setting a static IP.

PortForward.com has the instructions for doing both (setting up a static IP on a PC, and configuring port forwarding on your specific router) -- those are the only steps you need to take now.

Static IP: http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm

Port Forwarding: http://www.portforward.com/english/r.../ShoutCast.htm

[martinsingh92]

I set up the static ip and port forwading i had already done it was the static ip i hadn't,next what?

[djSpinnerCee]

Then, everything should be working.

Just remember, your choice of static IP was a bad one -- I suggested 192.168.0.250

[martinsingh92]

Well i did do everything but still this is my log after retsarting my pc because the dnas server had to restart,


Event log:
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.7 (Jun 23 2006) starting up...
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] initializing (usermax:20 portbase:8000)...
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] opening source socket
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] source thread starting
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] opening client socket
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<03/20/07@22:01:47> [main] client main thread starting
<03/20/07@22:02:03> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<03/20/07@22:02:04> [source] icy-nameJmC ; icy-genre:Bhangra
<03/20/07@22:02:04> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:40 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<03/20/07@22:02:04> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<03/20/07@22:02:04> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<03/20/07@22:02:04> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: 84.9.114.254:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection refused).)

[djSpinnerCee]

You need to check 2 things:

What is the static IP of the DNAS PC right now?

What is the LAN IP that you are forwarding the SHOUTcast ports to in the router's services config?

They should be the same.

* http://84.9.114.254:8000/ -- this gets refused -- that's good -- because if I try port 80, or 8002 the connection is dropped -- that means the port forward setup is good and working (at least to its configured LAN IP). now either the PC has a firewall in play, the port forward is going to the wrong PC (LAN IP), or the server is just not running.

[martinsingh92]

how do i find the ststic ip address of the pc i am on right now? When i go to lan ip settingsa on my netgear router the ip address is 192.168.0.1,ip subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, the RIP direction is None,the RIP version is rip-1.The box is ticked for my router to be used as a DHCP server and the settings for that are the starting ip address which is 192.168.02 and the ending ip address which is 192.168.0.254.

[Nick@ss]

my network places > view network connections > select your network card > right click > status > support tab.

or goto command prompt and type ipconfig

[martinsingh92]

Okay im using a wirless adapter at the moment but the details are as followed Address type:Assigned by DHCP,Ip address:192.168.0.2,Subnet mask:255.255.255.0 and Default Gateway:192.168.0.1.They are the settings of my adapter when i right click on it and go to statues

[Nick@ss]

so if you have forwarded the ports to your local ip address it should be working,

if it is not working i would seriously consider giving up and looking for some stream hosting to save you all this wasted time and wont need to configure your network.

the chances are you are going to gert it going and find out you dont have enough bandwidth to support many listeners anyway.

you can find a list of hosts here,

http://www.radiotoolbox.com/hosts

[martinsingh92]

Well how d you forward ports in a negera router,if anyone else has one,is it just by going to services,static ip and that i have already done now yesterday night.My friend had it working once when he was here on my old site he did it in a mtter of 10 minutes,i'm not too sure whats wrong,so bacially is services the teab for port forwading on a netgear router? Also in my internet security windows oncecare it says that shoutcast dnas is allowed as a program to access the internet,should i shutdown the internet security then try or what,you tell me?

[martinsingh92]

Any help???? How do i find out port forwading on my router, is it the services tab?

[Nick@ss]

www.portforward.com or the manufacturers handbook / website.

all due respect but we help with shoutcast and can only try and point you in the right direction for network configuration.

[djSpinnerCee]

Port forwarding IS (=) services -- they mean the same thing -- some vendors call it port forwarding, others call it services.

You mentioned Internet Security (usually a "nice" word for a local firewall) -- you can disable it, or you can configure it to allow ports 8000 and 8001, TCP, incoming -- this is similar to the services config on the router except you don't have to supply a target IP.

[martinsingh92]

woops,i didnt do the static ip thing just done it now though i relaised i onyld id the port forwading sorry ppl.going to try now

[martinsingh92]

NAAAA still giving me this log

******************************************************************************
** SHOUTcast Distributed Network Audio Server
** Copyright (C) 1998-2004 Nullsoft, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
** Use "sc_serv filename.ini" to specify an ini file.
*******************************************************************************

Event log:
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [SHOUTcast] DNAS/win32 v1.9.7 (Jun 23 2006) starting up...
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] loaded config from C:\Program Files\SHOUTcast\sc_serv.ini
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] initializing (usermax:20 portbase:8000)...
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] No ban file found (sc_serv.ban)
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] No rip file found (sc_serv.rip)
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] opening source socket
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] source thread starting
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] opening client socket
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [source] listening for connection on port 8001
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] Client Stream thread [0] starting
<03/22/07@16:16:37> [main] client main thread starting
<03/22/07@16:16:57> [source] connected from 127.0.0.1
<03/22/07@16:16:57> [source] icy-nameJmC ; icy-genre:Bhangra
<03/22/07@16:16:57> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:40 ; icy-url:http://www.shoutcast.com
<03/22/07@16:16:57> [source] icy-irc:#shoutcast ; icy-icq:0 ; icy-aim:N/A
<03/22/07@16:16:58> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak)
<03/22/07@16:16:58> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (Cannot see your station/computer (IP: 84.9.114.254:8000) from the Internet, disable Internet Sharing/NAT/firewall/ISP cache (Connection refused).)





Isit possible if someone could do remote assitance with me and check that everything i have done is perfect?

[martinsingh92]

Or if shoutcast doesn't work does anyone have any idea of other services such as this one for my site?

[Nick@ss]

it doesnt matter what you use if your network isnt set up properly as no one will be able to listen,

the best way forward is to use a stream host as you have no router configuration.

[martinsingh92]

streamhost whats that?

[martinsingh92]

desi-beatz.com is my mates site and i ust to connect easily to his server through the dsp plug-in he just ust to give me his address which was desi-vibe.com,the port stayed 8000 and the password and i ust to connect no problem.

[Nick@ss]

a stream host is someone that hosts the server for you,
its not a free service and bandwidth will cost you a few quid depending on what you want to use.

you will find a list here of stream hosts.
http://www.radiotoolbox.com/hosts

once you give them your money then they will host the server and support you with your questions.

you used to be able at desi beats as his rouer / firewall was configured properly.

[martinsingh92]

right okay so this will solve all the problems most likely in it?,which one do you recommend me nick? I will use it all the time,which one?

[Nick@ss]

uuum feel free to check the links in my sig as thats the one i recommend

[martinsingh92]

I would like the shoutcast dnas server though preferbally,i want to ask if dj spinner could do remote assitance with me and check that all my settings are correct,because i dont know but i may have something wrong that's why,so...