Video continuously rebuffers on fast connection.

Blaze_Fox · 20th April 2007, 16:11

I've been a fan of Shoutcast for as long as I can remember, especially it's TV stations. Recently i've tried to get Shoutcast TV running on a friends computer but every station I connect to, plays about 5 seconds worth of video, then it has to rebuffer. This goes on forever, trust me, I sat there one day for 4 hours trying to get it working. I've ajusted the buffers in every configoration I can think of. I've mucked around with my router and all and now I'm out of ideas.

I have ADSL2+ running at 15Mbit/1Mbit

and a Linksys WAG54G Router. I am behind a hardware firewall and a NAT. I've seen shoutcast work from behind a firewall and a NAT before so it can't be that.

I'm out of ideas, my mind is racked.

If someone can shed some light on to my problem i'd be ever so gratefull.

Thanking in advance, Blaze.

P.S. I had tried searching the forums for a similar topic but my search didn't find anything.

wildex999 · 20th April 2007, 17:36

15Mbit/1Mbit should be MORE than enough.....
And playing should be no problem behind firewall...

you sure nothing is running in the background, making the streaming unstable or something?

Sawg · 20th April 2007, 19:34

Have you verified your connection by running any speed tests, or checking any other connection rates?

What an ISP tells you you have, and what you can get aren't always the same.

Blaze_Fox · 23rd April 2007, 18:41

It's Internode's 24MBit ADSL 2+. 20GB limit about to be boosted to 40GB.

And because we live about 500 Meters from Waymouth Exchange (Thats the big one in the CBD of Adelaide) we get speeds of between 15-20MBit usually depending on weather. I've tried using Winamp and VLC but it doesn't make a difference. What other programs are there that I could try?

wildex999 · 24th April 2007, 18:05

um... have you used over 20GB this month?

Blaze_Fox · 30th April 2007, 12:27

Nope, Well under the limit.

sankt · 30th April 2007, 19:07

Try connecting to a NSV stream using VLC ( the video lan player software ) and see if you get the same buffering results.

If you do, then its downlink problem, if you don't then its a Winamp problem.

Blaze_Fox · 11th May 2007, 09:54

Ok... Next time you try to reply, Read the darn post!

To save you ten seconds I have ALREADY tried VLC, and no it doesn't help.

wildex999 · 11th May 2007, 14:40

I can but only think it's something with the internet connection.
Router not liking it?
Firewall stopping it?
Laggy internet?

or maybe the worst, WIRELESS?

What else can it be?

rockouthippie · 12th May 2007, 15:43

Quote:

Originally posted by wildex999
Laggy internet?

That would be unlikely on all stations. Some of these channels have bad connections, but most work fine. I use wlan to watch shoutcast TV all the time, so that shouldn't be an issue. Download something big. If it doesn't look slow, it probably isn't.

Can you watch Google videos?. If so, you should be able to handle most of the shoutcast streams.

Blaze_Fox · 22nd June 2007, 06:44

Thank you for all your help.

The End...

Inedible Bulk · 23rd June 2007, 15:53

ahhhh linksys

did you forget that it remembers every connection it made over the past few days so after a while it's buffer fills up and starts lagging to hell and back

do like we recommend: restart the router

Blaze_Fox · 2nd July 2007, 13:16

No, it wasn't that, I tried directly after a restart to no avail, and then a factory reset. I had noticed that it had contracted a squeal a few months before it died although it never had good performance anyway. But just before it died, the components were wining so loud I couldn't sleep. That was the last time it was unplugged working. The new one is a D-Link PileofdogmatterDSL-G604T but at least it works, to an extent...

fc*uk · 7th July 2007, 16:38

edit: post deleted

Bk2X · 7th July 2007, 20:46

Ive got a similar problem, I am using a 100mb server to relay a stream. I have it setup correctly in shoutcast but for some reason i can only watch about 5 sec of video before it buffers. The buffering is continuous. The server has plenty of open bandwidth and my connection is idle. Any suggestions?

john@ROCKNTV1 · 9th July 2007, 21:20

Blaze_Fox

a lack of cpu on the decoding side, would cause this.

A lack of graphics power coupled with heavy pci buss usage by the ethernet card makes even some 128/kbs streams buffer depending on codec used for encoding.
Try the low pow streams ie; 128/vp 3.1 codec for a experiment in machine decoding power . The higher the bitrate , and the more quality the codec ,the more machine you need to view the stream with.
Hope this helps.

Bk2X

You may have encoding issues.

Blaze_Fox · 11th July 2007, 13:45

It's NOT my computer, period. Anyhoo, Shoutcast hasn't had a problem since we got the new router, so i'm guessing it was that on the blink that was causing all the trouble.

Bk2X: Have you tried using different hardware (e.g. network cards ect.). Sometimes certain hardware configurations just don't work well.

20th April 2007, 16:11	#1
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	Video continuously rebuffers on fast connection. I've been a fan of Shoutcast for as long as I can remember, especially it's TV stations. Recently i've tried to get Shoutcast TV running on a friends computer but every station I connect to, plays about 5 seconds worth of video, then it has to rebuffer. This goes on forever, trust me, I sat there one day for 4 hours trying to get it working. I've ajusted the buffers in every configoration I can think of. I've mucked around with my router and all and now I'm out of ideas. I have ADSL2+ running at 15Mbit/1Mbit and a Linksys WAG54G Router. I am behind a hardware firewall and a NAT. I've seen shoutcast work from behind a firewall and a NAT before so it can't be that. I'm out of ideas, my mind is racked. If someone can shed some light on to my problem i'd be ever so gratefull. Thanking in advance, Blaze. P.S. I had tried searching the forums for a similar topic but my search didn't find anything.

20th April 2007, 17:36	#2
wildex999 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 397	15Mbit/1Mbit should be MORE than enough..... And playing should be no problem behind firewall... you sure nothing is running in the background, making the streaming unstable or something? CROSS PLATFORM C++ NSV Library \| NSV Demuxer \| NSV Muxer: On SourceForge.net HERE! NSV_Vp61_Vp62 NSV_X264 NSV X264 vfw version (Decoder AND Encoder)(Mirror) NEW: Wildex999's blog & NSV tutorials

20th April 2007, 19:34	#3
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23rd April 2007, 18:41	#4
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	A Reply... It's Internode's 24MBit ADSL 2+. 20GB limit about to be boosted to 40GB. And because we live about 500 Meters from Waymouth Exchange (Thats the big one in the CBD of Adelaide) we get speeds of between 15-20MBit usually depending on weather. I've tried using Winamp and VLC but it doesn't make a difference. What other programs are there that I could try?

24th April 2007, 18:05	#5
wildex999 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 397	um... have you used over 20GB this month? CROSS PLATFORM C++ NSV Library \| NSV Demuxer \| NSV Muxer: On SourceForge.net HERE! NSV_Vp61_Vp62 NSV_X264 NSV X264 vfw version (Decoder AND Encoder)(Mirror) NEW: Wildex999's blog & NSV tutorials

30th April 2007, 12:27	#6
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	Nope, Well under the limit.

30th April 2007, 19:07	#7
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SCVI . NET Posts: 2,835	Try connecting to a NSV stream using VLC ( the video lan player software ) and see if you get the same buffering results. If you do, then its downlink problem, if you don't then its a Winamp problem. Internet Broadcasting - Internet Streaming Guides

11th May 2007, 09:54	#8
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	uhh... Ok... Next time you try to reply, Read the darn post! To save you ten seconds I have ALREADY tried VLC, and no it doesn't help.

11th May 2007, 14:40	#9
wildex999 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 397	I can but only think it's something with the internet connection. Router not liking it? Firewall stopping it? Laggy internet? or maybe the worst, WIRELESS? What else can it be? CROSS PLATFORM C++ NSV Library \| NSV Demuxer \| NSV Muxer: On SourceForge.net HERE! NSV_Vp61_Vp62 NSV_X264 NSV X264 vfw version (Decoder AND Encoder)(Mirror) NEW: Wildex999's blog & NSV tutorials

22nd June 2007, 06:44	#11
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	X_X... Thank you for all your help. The End...

23rd June 2007, 15:53	#12
Inedible Bulk Forum King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: You're the man now dog Posts: 2,303	ahhhh linksys did you forget that it remembers every connection it made over the past few days so after a while it's buffer fills up and starts lagging to hell and back do like we recommend: restart the router Originally posted by yeshuawatso : ...get Nullsoft to [accept] new moderators? ... election? ... If Inedible Bulk is the candidate, then I give my vote.

2nd July 2007, 13:16	#13
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	No, it wasn't that, I tried directly after a restart to no avail, and then a factory reset. I had noticed that it had contracted a squeal a few months before it died although it never had good performance anyway. But just before it died, the components were wining so loud I couldn't sleep. That was the last time it was unplugged working. The new one is a D-Link PileofdogmatterDSL-G604T but at least it works, to an extent...

7th July 2007, 16:38	#14
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7th July 2007, 20:46	#15
Bk2X Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1	Ive got a similar problem, I am using a 100mb server to relay a stream. I have it setup correctly in shoutcast but for some reason i can only watch about 5 sec of video before it buffers. The buffering is continuous. The server has plenty of open bandwidth and my connection is idle. Any suggestions?

9th July 2007, 21:20	#16
john@ROCKNTV1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: i have broken not a single rule and you deleted my sig craigF.. OK MY TURN CRAIGF and smelter thank for bumping bulks flame post Posts: 641	Blaze_Fox a lack of cpu on the decoding side, would cause this. A lack of graphics power coupled with heavy pci buss usage by the ethernet card makes even some 128/kbs streams buffer depending on codec used for encoding. Try the low pow streams ie; 128/vp 3.1 codec for a experiment in machine decoding power . The higher the bitrate , and the more quality the codec ,the more machine you need to view the stream with. Hope this helps. Bk2X You may have encoding issues.

11th July 2007, 13:45	#17
Blaze_Fox Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 8	It's NOT my computer, period. Anyhoo, Shoutcast hasn't had a problem since we got the new router, so i'm guessing it was that on the blink that was causing all the trouble. Bk2X: Have you tried using different hardware (e.g. network cards ect.). Sometimes certain hardware configurations just don't work well.

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