pause between tracks

Geoshine · 24th March 2001, 04:26

Any way to eliminate the small pause between tracks?
Some of my mp3's are parts of 13 or more song lists
that shouldn't have pauses.

Any thoughts? I'm actually considering mixing them all
together with some other tool into one mongo mp3 file.
Ugh.

Cheers,
- Geo

NeoRenegade · 24th March 2001, 05:29

The pause is only about a tenth of a second. If I were you I'd just get used to it.

Pio2001 · 24th March 2001, 11:11

Nullsoft gapless output, Crudsoft gapless, Dudsoft gapless, SQRsoft advanced plug ins, and maybe several others allow removing the little gap generated by Winamp between tracks.

However, there are gaps at both ends of mp3 themselves, so you'll need a crossfading or a click removal tool in order to join mp3s together. More info about mp3 in the post http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=44673

And, NeoRenegade, your answer was useless.

thoughts · 26th March 2001, 17:42

Has anyone actually *tried* any of these "gapless" plugins? Dudsoft's is, well, a dud... it doesn't flush the output buffer so even after you exit winamp, you get random bits of the song that was playing when you stopped. And you can't seek through a file (using the arrow keys) while it's playing, or winamp locks up. And half the time when I exit winamp normally, I get errors.

I've tried the SQR plugin but I don't want a crossfade. I just want one track to play, and when it's done, I want the next track to play. I don't want winamp inserting anything (silence or otherwise) in between my tracks! Is that too much to ask?? And no, there aren't any gaps at the ends of my mp3 files themselves.

Pio2001, I'm going to try the other two you mentioned now (Nullsoft's and Crudsoft's).

Pio2001 · 26th March 2001, 21:02

As far as I know (I've tried them all), Nullsoft can't stand 48 000 Hz files, and Crudsoft can't stand MP3s (in fact, there is a setting to corrects it, but it is never saved, and you have to go to preferences each time you restart Winamp).
I use SQRsoft, which does act as a gapless plugin when you select the preset "standart" (continuous output). I think I changed something from that preset, maybe "flush on stop/skip" was disabled and I enabled it.
It is not very good at 48 000 Hz files (it converts to 44 100, then the soundcard re converts to 48 000), and it clicks on stop, skip and seek.
However, it is the best I've found.
There was also one called "continuous output", but it couln't stand in_CD Player, it messed up the times and the seeks one track out of two.
Anyway, it seems to me that SQRsoft is unstable with in_video, so no one is perfect.
In fact, nothing works as soon as you use third party plugins for both input and ouput, because each plugin is debugged for working with Winamp alone, and not with Winamp + another plugin.

thoughts · 26th March 2001, 23:42

This seems like one of those "so-easy-it's-hard" problems. It's so aggravating... just play one song, then play the next one! If there's a problem with the mp3 format that prevents that, then store the output in a buffer before sending it to the speakers.

It just seems to me that this should be one of the first things that gets done (in a 0.x alpha release), before skins, before visualization, etc. Winamp is an audio player, so shouldn't it play audio right before it does anything else? Shouldn't this be #1 on the to-do list?

Pio2001 · 27th March 2001, 17:41

Yes, it's been asked several times in the Winamp whishlist.

old guy · 28th March 2001, 18:00

Some of the albums that blend together like that can be found in one piece. Abbey Road, Dark Side of the Moon, etc. They're best if you can get them in one file.

24th March 2001, 11:11	#3
Pio2001 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lyon, France Posts: 293	Nullsoft gapless output, Crudsoft gapless, Dudsoft gapless, SQRsoft advanced plug ins, and maybe several others allow removing the little gap generated by Winamp between tracks. However, there are gaps at both ends of mp3 themselves, so you'll need a crossfading or a click removal tool in order to join mp3s together. More info about mp3 in the post http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=44673 And, NeoRenegade, your answer was useless. Pio2001

26th March 2001, 21:02	#5
Pio2001 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lyon, France Posts: 293	As far as I know (I've tried them all), Nullsoft can't stand 48 000 Hz files, and Crudsoft can't stand MP3s (in fact, there is a setting to corrects it, but it is never saved, and you have to go to preferences each time you restart Winamp). I use SQRsoft, which does act as a gapless plugin when you select the preset "standart" (continuous output). I think I changed something from that preset, maybe "flush on stop/skip" was disabled and I enabled it. It is not very good at 48 000 Hz files (it converts to 44 100, then the soundcard re converts to 48 000), and it clicks on stop, skip and seek. However, it is the best I've found. There was also one called "continuous output", but it couln't stand in_CD Player, it messed up the times and the seeks one track out of two. Anyway, it seems to me that SQRsoft is unstable with in_video, so no one is perfect. In fact, nothing works as soon as you use third party plugins for both input and ouput, because each plugin is debugged for working with Winamp alone, and not with Winamp + another plugin. Pio2001

27th March 2001, 17:41	#7
Pio2001 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lyon, France Posts: 293	Yes, it's been asked several times in the Winamp whishlist. Pio2001

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24th March 2001, 04:26	#1
Geoshine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 5	Any way to eliminate the small pause between tracks? Some of my mp3's are parts of 13 or more song lists that shouldn't have pauses. Any thoughts? I'm actually considering mixing them all together with some other tool into one mongo mp3 file. Ugh. Cheers, - Geo

24th March 2001, 05:29	#2
NeoRenegade Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada, eh? Posts: 4,083	The pause is only about a tenth of a second. If I were you I'd just get used to it.

26th March 2001, 17:42	#4
thoughts Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 8	Has anyone actually tried any of these "gapless" plugins? Dudsoft's is, well, a dud... it doesn't flush the output buffer so even after you exit winamp, you get random bits of the song that was playing when you stopped. And you can't seek through a file (using the arrow keys) while it's playing, or winamp locks up. And half the time when I exit winamp normally, I get errors. I've tried the SQR plugin but I don't want a crossfade. I just want one track to play, and when it's done, I want the next track to play. I don't want winamp inserting anything (silence or otherwise) in between my tracks! Is that too much to ask?? And no, there aren't any gaps at the ends of my mp3 files themselves. Pio2001, I'm going to try the other two you mentioned now (Nullsoft's and Crudsoft's).

26th March 2001, 23:42	#6
thoughts Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 8	This seems like one of those "so-easy-it's-hard" problems. It's so aggravating... just play one song, then play the next one! If there's a problem with the mp3 format that prevents that, then store the output in a buffer before sending it to the speakers. It just seems to me that this should be one of the first things that gets done (in a 0.x alpha release), before skins, before visualization, etc. Winamp is an audio player, so shouldn't it play audio right before it does anything else? Shouldn't this be #1 on the to-do list?

28th March 2001, 18:00	#8
old guy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1	Some of the albums that blend together like that can be found in one piece. Abbey Road, Dark Side of the Moon, etc. They're best if you can get them in one file.