ECCN # for NSIS

pekinska · 8th October 2008, 04:48

I would like to know ECCN# (Export Control Classification Number)for NSIS so that I can export our application software using NSIS as installer software.

Maybe 5D992 or 5D002? or EAR99?

Related link)
http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/ccl5-pt2.pdf

Thanks!

kichik · 8th October 2008, 11:53

That subject was never examined. You will need to consult your lawyers. If the answer is something we can later use in case someone else needs that number, it'd be great if you can share it.

pekinska · 8th October 2008, 13:24

Thanks for the reply,

Actually NSIS can ask this issue to B.I.S. to get their official certification I think, they will assign category number appropriately, and you can share the info since...

I asked this issue to several related departments and sites such as(Yes I'm in Japan), and all people told me that software developer can ask it to B.I.S. and get an official number from them.

1. Bureau of Industry and Security(http://www.bis.doc.gov/)
Keywords: The Export Administration Regulation/Commerce Control List/
2. JETRO (Japanese External Trade Organization)
3. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan
4. "InstallShiled" web site(Japanese),
I couldn't find any documnets in U.S. site but I can find ECCN number for "IntallShield" as "5D992/No License Required" in the page:http://www.networld.co.jp/products/i...ode_200412.pdf

I want to try to get the number but I cannot I think, what do you think?

kichik · 8th October 2008, 13:39

I don't know if you can. That's why I suggest you contact your lawyers. If you can, great. If you can't, you'll to do without one.

Animaether · 9th October 2008, 22:58

Keep in mind that, quite technically, -you- would need to get certification anyway; the binary installer result is not just NSIS, but also your script code, any plugins you may use, etc., any of which may touch on subjects of the export restrictions, especially if you export to certain countries.

Talk to your lawyers / legal department - we're not either of those

Somewhat off-topic... there are very, very few companies that deliver software that deal with this; it's usually by request of an end-user to make sure -they- are in the clear more than you, yourself. Especially if your software gets published online - even if it does high levels of encryption and should be forbidden for export to, say, Iran... you can't really prevent it.. you can set up your site to ban 'iranian' IPs and some proxies, but then some other proxy opens up and they can get it anyway.
Again, though, talk with your legal counsel.

8th October 2008, 04:48	#1
pekinska Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	ECCN # for NSIS I would like to know ECCN# (Export Control Classification Number)for NSIS so that I can export our application software using NSIS as installer software. Maybe 5D992 or 5D002? or EAR99? Related link) http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/ccl5-pt2.pdf Thanks!

8th October 2008, 11:53	#2
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	That subject was never examined. You will need to consult your lawyers. If the answer is something we can later use in case someone else needs that number, it'd be great if you can share it. NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

8th October 2008, 13:39	#4
kichik M.I.A. [NSIS Dev, Mod] Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israel Posts: 11,343	I don't know if you can. That's why I suggest you contact your lawyers. If you can, great. If you can't, you'll to do without one. NSIS FAQ \| NSIS Home Page \| Donate $ "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius

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8th October 2008, 13:24	#3
pekinska Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	Thanks for the reply, Actually NSIS can ask this issue to B.I.S. to get their official certification I think, they will assign category number appropriately, and you can share the info since... I asked this issue to several related departments and sites such as(Yes I'm in Japan), and all people told me that software developer can ask it to B.I.S. and get an official number from them. 1. Bureau of Industry and Security(http://www.bis.doc.gov/) Keywords: The Export Administration Regulation/Commerce Control List/ 2. JETRO (Japanese External Trade Organization) 3. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan 4. "InstallShiled" web site(Japanese), I couldn't find any documnets in U.S. site but I can find ECCN number for "IntallShield" as "5D992/No License Required" in the page:http://www.networld.co.jp/products/i...ode_200412.pdf I want to try to get the number but I cannot I think, what do you think?

9th October 2008, 22:58	#5
Animaether Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,173	Keep in mind that, quite technically, -you- would need to get certification anyway; the binary installer result is not just NSIS, but also your script code, any plugins you may use, etc., any of which may touch on subjects of the export restrictions, especially if you export to certain countries. Talk to your lawyers / legal department - we're not either of those Somewhat off-topic... there are very, very few companies that deliver software that deal with this; it's usually by request of an end-user to make sure -they- are in the clear more than you, yourself. Especially if your software gets published online - even if it does high levels of encryption and should be forbidden for export to, say, Iran... you can't really prevent it.. you can set up your site to ban 'iranian' IPs and some proxies, but then some other proxy opens up and they can get it anyway. Again, though, talk with your legal counsel.