Real "thinking" movies - Page 2

hgnis · 27th March 2004, 23:13

Citizen Kane wasn't too bad.

yxs · 28th March 2004, 00:57

Also two other movies... Life Is Beautiful (La Vita E Bella) and Dancer In The Dark.
They're not that kind of real "brain torturing" movies in that sense. But they make you think for a long time.
About life and death. Ethics... the limits of tolerance... about a human being.

Damn, I just love intense "psychological experiences"!

Myxomatosis · 30th March 2004, 03:56

I also enjoy thinker movies here a good list:
Fight Club
Pi
The Big Labowski (it alittle of thinking and no-brainer)
Snatch
K-Pax
Matchstick Men (kind of)

Also, Fight Club is so good becuase of the many perspectives and ideals it portrays. "Let go" and dont remember the exact quote but your never really asleep or awake with insomnia.

gaekwad2 · 30th March 2004, 17:07

Actually Matrix made me think: because it's so full of obvious mistakes I immediately thought about how the story could have been saved.

One film that stunned me (and my friends, we were literally speechless after leaving the cinema) the first time I saw it is Brazil.

old and quite mad · 6th April 2004, 08:05

"Z" by Costa-Gavras.

AfroMex · 8th April 2004, 20:10

I love thinker movies but everyone has forgotn SEVEN. that movie is near the top of my all time greats list.

and a few more.
Fight Club
Memento
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs <-- kinda a thinker but cool nun the less

i can't think of anymore at the moment, but thats just a few.

P.S. PootieTang is the shit and you will never change my mind.

Semantics · 2nd June 2004, 17:59

Vanilla Sky....how could we forget that?

As for the Matrix Trilogy...excellent films, hated by the masses. Why you ask...mainly because they are thinking pieces. Are there biblical references in the films? Yes, but if anything, these films are more based in New Age and Eastern ideologies, the farthest thing from the Bible. To think the Matrix Trilogy is biblical in any siginicant sense is absurd. Watch it again...and think

ElChevelle · 3rd June 2004, 01:03

Dogma

Fickle · 3rd June 2004, 03:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Semantics
Vanilla Sky....how could we forget that?

As for the Matrix Trilogy...excellent films, hated by the masses. Why you ask...mainly because they are thinking pieces. Are there biblical references in the films? Yes, but if anything, these films are more based in New Age and Eastern ideologies, the farthest thing from the Bible. To think the Matrix Trilogy is biblical in any siginicant sense is absurd. Watch it again...and think

Yeah, watch it again, and then remind yourself how Neo dies in a crucifix position, is the only hope for mankind, and sacrificed himself. Just because they borrowed a plot line from a japanese movie or book doesn't mean it's Eastern. You want an American Eastern Film? Watch Ghost Dog. That had more Eastern Flavor than all the Matrix's put together and blended to a fine paste.

Eastern cultures my ass. Kill Bill had more Eastern Culture than fucking Neo/Jesus vs The Machines/Evil of Mankind. The first one was good. The last one was cool. The middle one sucked. Don't even try to argue that it was intelligently concieved or the greatest film ever. It was the most predictable crap I ever witnessed plotwise.

Semantics · 3rd June 2004, 04:09

I do see your point Fickle...but also take into consideration other points of the film. The first film brings up ideas non-existence (there is no spoon). That can be considered Eastern. A main premise in the film is choice...or lack of. Neo's choice has already been made, but made by himself. This is extreme fatalism, a very New Age concept of choosing what you will do with your life before you actually begin living it. I've never seen either of these concepts in Christianity. However, this is just my interpretation of the film...just what I got outta it. I guess its kinda dumb for me to say its heavily Eastern or Christian, or whatever. Its simply a mix of a ton of shit, Christian and Eastern...or whatever else is thrown in there.

ElChevelle · 3rd June 2004, 04:19

Debbie Does Every Fucking Thing

gaekwad2 · 3rd June 2004, 08:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Semantics
Vanilla Sky....how could we forget that?

That's easy: Just watch abre los ojos/open your eyes.

Fickle · 6th June 2004, 03:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Semantics
This is extreme fatalism, a very New Age concept of choosing what you will do with your life before you actually begin living it.

Jesus's life was decided for him before he was killed.

squakMix · 6th June 2004, 05:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Fickle
A few good examples:

American Beauty

The Manchurian Candidate (sadly, they're remaking this one. I'm willing to bet it'll do decent at the box office but will suck terribly compared to the original)

Fight Club

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Pi

Memento

A Clockwork Orange

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

12 Angry Men

Pulp Fiction

You listed four of my top 5 favorite movies.
American beauty,
Fight club,
Pi,
and momento (not neccesarily in order).
I also really liked the twelve monkeys

Raz · 6th June 2004, 08:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Semantics
I do see your point Fickle...but also take into consideration other points of the film. The first film brings up ideas non-existence (there is no spoon). That can be considered Eastern. A main premise in the film is choice...or lack of. Neo's choice has already been made, but made by himself. This is extreme fatalism, a very New Age concept of choosing what you will do with your life before you actually begin living it. I've never seen either of these concepts in Christianity. However, this is just my interpretation of the film...just what I got outta it. I guess its kinda dumb for me to say its heavily Eastern or Christian, or whatever. Its simply a mix of a ton of shit, Christian and Eastern...or whatever else is thrown in there.

It didn't 'bring up' anything. That idea has been around for thousands of years.

Semantics · 7th June 2004, 15:23

Jesus' life was decided FOR him. What I said was what YOU decide what you want with your life. You make your path. And playing word semantics with "bring up".....pfft. I didn't mean it created anything new, thats obvious. I suppose we replace "bring up" with "discussed", so its clear The Matrix didn't do anything new, it just threw some different stuff together and presented it

mark · 7th June 2004, 15:53

I like to think of the matrix as an very good action movie brought down slightly by people talking in big words that they dont understand.

squakMix · 8th June 2004, 00:13

can anyone guess where my CT is from?

ElChevelle · 8th June 2004, 00:36

A moderator?

Raz · 8th June 2004, 00:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Semantics
Jesus' life was decided FOR him. What I said was what YOU decide what you want with your life. You make your path. And playing word semantics with "bring up".....pfft. I didn't mean it created anything new, thats obvious. I suppose we replace "bring up" with "discussed", so its clear The Matrix didn't do anything new, it just threw some different stuff together and presented it

I'm not saying it's a bad movie, i'm saying it tries to be better than it is, and many many people buy into it.

squakMix · 8th June 2004, 00:41

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
A moderator?

ElChevelle · 8th June 2004, 00:47

Quote:

Originally posted by squakMix

Wrong?

deeder7001 · 8th June 2004, 00:58

Quote:

Originally posted by squakMix
can anyone guess where my CT is from?

i'm thinking Half Life.

ElChevelle · 8th June 2004, 01:05

Fight Club

squakMix · 8th June 2004, 02:03

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Fight Club

Bingo

Fickle · 10th June 2004, 13:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Raz
I'm not saying it's a bad movie, i'm saying it tries to be better than it is, and many many people buy into it.

I agree with this sentance, even with the needless second comma.

Jaak · 11th June 2004, 16:51

if its not here, i got to add "The Butterfly Effect".
it wasn't the best movie (could have had better actors), but it was great imo.

riqwah · 1st August 2005, 18:27

I'd like to add American History X and Trainspotting, not because of the complex plot but because they really make you think about your life and others...

i totaly agree.

Omega X · 11th August 2005, 21:50

How to spot Thinker Movies:

1. Almost anything with Denzel Washington in it.
2. Look for Samuel L. Jackson in controversial roles.
3. Erie mystery flicks that deal with the undead.(rememeber that I did NOT say horror flick)
4. Nonfunny Travolta flicks.
5. Westley Snipes not playing a super hero.
6. Unknown actors in a downspiral setting.(not necessarily action based)
7. Halle Berry with a good script.
8. The Bone Collector was a good one.
9. Unbreakable was another one.
10. Usually Bruce Willis when he's not kicking someone's ass or trying to be funny.

MaximusTheGreat · 12th February 2009, 09:01

I dont if I agreed with a single one of those conditions. I did not neccesarily disagree with them, but those are some strange conditions for a thinking movie.

j.douglas · 12th February 2009, 18:00

I somewhat agree and i think a good example here is Pulp Fiction!!!

[url removed - Sarge]

rockouthippie · 1st March 2009, 22:13

Children of Men
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/
1984
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/
Gattaca
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/
The Manchurian Candidate (not the remake)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056218/
Touch of Evil
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052311/
The Silence of the Lambs
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/
Wait Until Dark
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062467/
The French Connection
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067116/
Signs
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286106/

Razzinno · 1st March 2009, 23:37

I wouldn't mind getting 'Wait Until Dark' on dvd.

Widdykats · 2nd March 2009, 11:26

Quote:

Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
This is not a list of the best, but of the more thought provoking films you might want to watch. I've seen and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Some are very challenging films, but well worth it.

I can highly recommend;

Rififi,
Les Diaboliques
Russian Ark
The Seven Samurai........bollocks! watch them all, they are all great films.

Solyaris
Russian Ark
Les Diaboliques
The Big Sleep
Rabbot Proof Fence
Once Were Warriors
Rififi
The 400 Blows
The Seven Samurai
Elephant
Dogville

Great list. I liked Z also and Monster( a great performance )
I would add Rahomon
Requiem For A Dream But there's more...there's always more

Widdykats · 2nd March 2009, 12:40

[QUOTE]Originally posted by marvinbarcelona
[B]This is not a list of the best, but of the more thought provoking films you might want to watch. I've seen and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Some are very challenging films, but well worth it.

I can highly recommend;

Rififi,
Les Diaboliques
Russian Ark
The Seven Samurai........bollocks! watch them all, they are all great films.

Solyaris
Russian Ark
Les Diaboliques
The Big Sleep
Rabbot Proof Fence
Once Were Warriors
Rififi
[url=http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0053198/]The 400 Blows

Widdykats · 2nd March 2009, 22:55

^ Can a Mod remove the post above my head..yeah the second one..and this, too.. Thank Mew!

I don't even know whatthehell that is...

jaykal2 · 26th May 2009, 21:17

"Frailty" with Matthew McConaughy is a must-see and is excellent along with any Guy Ritchie movies such as:
Lock, Stock, and two Smoking Barrels,
Snatch,
Revolver is okay but tries too hard,
and Rock n Rolla is also decent,

Obviously any Quinton Tarantino, not just Pulp Fiction, including:
Reservoir Dogs,
True Romance,
Jackie Brown,
the Kill Bill's are okay,
and Inglorious Bastards should be amazing

A recent good one I've seen is "Lions for Lambs" which is Tom Cruise's best film
an really makes you think (I highly recommend)

And finally two great Tim Robbins' films that really make you think are "The Shawshank Redemption" and a less popular film with Jeff Bridges of "The Big Lebowski" called Arlington Road is a spectacular movie that really puzzles the mind

zarine · 3rd September 2010, 08:30

From the movies that you have mentioned, American Beauty is very good.

27th March 2004, 23:13	#41
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,099	Citizen Kane wasn't too bad. I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

30th March 2004, 17:07	#44
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,149	Actually Matrix made me think: because it's so full of obvious mistakes I immediately thought about how the story could have been saved. One film that stunned me (and my friends, we were literally speechless after leaving the cinema) the first time I saw it is Brazil. Fuck this place.

6th April 2004, 08:05	#45
old and quite mad Major Dude Join Date: May 2000 Location: The PLANET Pluto Posts: 666	"Z" by Costa-Gavras. Playlist as Excel Spreadsheet Finland is wrapped within the freezing waters of Austria SAVE PLUTO!!

8th June 2004, 00:13	#58
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11th June 2004, 16:51	#67
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	if its not here, i got to add "The Butterfly Effect". it wasn't the best movie (could have had better actors), but it was great imo. Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

28th March 2004, 00:57	#42
yxs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 106	Also two other movies... Life Is Beautiful (La Vita E Bella) and Dancer In The Dark. They're not that kind of real "brain torturing" movies in that sense. But they make you think for a long time. About life and death. Ethics... the limits of tolerance... about a human being. Damn, I just love intense "psychological experiences"!

30th March 2004, 03:56	#43
Myxomatosis aka bRiAnFuRY Fuck it dude... let's go bowling. (Major dud) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,162	I also enjoy thinker movies here a good list: Fight Club Pi The Big Labowski (it alittle of thinking and no-brainer) Snatch K-Pax Matchstick Men (kind of) Also, Fight Club is so good becuase of the many perspectives and ideals it portrays. "Let go" and dont remember the exact quote but your never really asleep or awake with insomnia.

8th April 2004, 20:10	#46
AfroMex Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Renton, W.A. Posts: 47	I love thinker movies but everyone has forgotn SEVEN. that movie is near the top of my all time greats list. and a few more. Fight Club Memento Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs <-- kinda a thinker but cool nun the less i can't think of anymore at the moment, but thats just a few. P.S. PootieTang is the shit and you will never change my mind.

2nd June 2004, 17:59	#47
Semantics Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 123	Vanilla Sky....how could we forget that? As for the Matrix Trilogy...excellent films, hated by the masses. Why you ask...mainly because they are thinking pieces. Are there biblical references in the films? Yes, but if anything, these films are more based in New Age and Eastern ideologies, the farthest thing from the Bible. To think the Matrix Trilogy is biblical in any siginicant sense is absurd. Watch it again...and think

3rd June 2004, 01:03	#48
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	Dogma

3rd June 2004, 04:09	#50
Semantics Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 123	I do see your point Fickle...but also take into consideration other points of the film. The first film brings up ideas non-existence (there is no spoon). That can be considered Eastern. A main premise in the film is choice...or lack of. Neo's choice has already been made, but made by himself. This is extreme fatalism, a very New Age concept of choosing what you will do with your life before you actually begin living it. I've never seen either of these concepts in Christianity. However, this is just my interpretation of the film...just what I got outta it. I guess its kinda dumb for me to say its heavily Eastern or Christian, or whatever. Its simply a mix of a ton of shit, Christian and Eastern...or whatever else is thrown in there.

3rd June 2004, 04:19	#51
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	Debbie Does Every Fucking Thing

7th June 2004, 15:23	#56
Semantics Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 123	Jesus' life was decided FOR him. What I said was what YOU decide what you want with your life. You make your path. And playing word semantics with "bring up".....pfft. I didn't mean it created anything new, thats obvious. I suppose we replace "bring up" with "discussed", so its clear The Matrix didn't do anything new, it just threw some different stuff together and presented it

7th June 2004, 15:53	#57
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	I like to think of the matrix as an very good action movie brought down slightly by people talking in big words that they dont understand.

8th June 2004, 00:36	#59
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	A moderator?

8th June 2004, 01:05	#64
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	Fight Club

1st August 2005, 18:27	#68
riqwah Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: kemya/sudan Posts: 2	i agree I'd like to add American History X and Trainspotting, not because of the complex plot but because they really make you think about your life and others... i totaly agree.

11th August 2005, 21:50	#69
Omega X Forum King Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: A Parallel Dimension Posts: 2,234	How to spot Thinker Movies: 1. Almost anything with Denzel Washington in it. 2. Look for Samuel L. Jackson in controversial roles. 3. Erie mystery flicks that deal with the undead.(rememeber that I did NOT say horror flick) 4. Nonfunny Travolta flicks. 5. Westley Snipes not playing a super hero. 6. Unknown actors in a downspiral setting.(not necessarily action based) 7. Halle Berry with a good script. 8. The Bone Collector was a good one. 9. Unbreakable was another one. 10. Usually Bruce Willis when he's not kicking someone's ass or trying to be funny. Webmaster @Order Of The Mists [OOM]

12th February 2009, 09:01	#70
MaximusTheGreat Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	hmmm I dont if I agreed with a single one of those conditions. I did not neccesarily disagree with them, but those are some strange conditions for a thinking movie.

12th February 2009, 18:00	#71
j.douglas Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3	I somewhat agree and i think a good example here is Pulp Fiction!!! [url removed - Sarge]

1st March 2009, 22:13	#72
rockouthippie Forum King Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 10,617	Children of Men http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/ 1984 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/ Gattaca http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/ The Manchurian Candidate (not the remake) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056218/ Touch of Evil http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052311/ The Silence of the Lambs http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/ Wait Until Dark http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062467/ The French Connection http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067116/ Signs http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286106/ Global Movies and TV God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to hide the bodies of people who pissed me off.

1st March 2009, 23:37	#73
Razzinno Piffle Producer Join Date: May 2006 Location: the secret files of my pc Posts: 2,589	I wouldn't mind getting 'Wait Until Dark' on dvd.

2nd March 2009, 12:40	#75
Widdykats The Forum Slut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A place that invites a post pumping whore from NY Posts: 15,602	[QUOTE]Originally posted by marvinbarcelona [B]This is not a list of the best, but of the more thought provoking films you might want to watch. I've seen and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Some are very challenging films, but well worth it. I can highly recommend; Rififi, Les Diaboliques Russian Ark The Seven Samurai........bollocks! watch them all, they are all great films. Solyaris Russian Ark Les Diaboliques The Big Sleep Rabbot Proof Fence Once Were Warriors Rififi [url=http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0053198/]The 400 Blows

2nd March 2009, 22:55	#76
Widdykats The Forum Slut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A place that invites a post pumping whore from NY Posts: 15,602	^ Can a Mod remove the post above my head..yeah the second one..and this, too.. Thank Mew! I don't even know whatthehell that is...

26th May 2009, 21:17	#77
jaykal2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1	More thinking movies "Frailty" with Matthew McConaughy is a must-see and is excellent along with any Guy Ritchie movies such as: Lock, Stock, and two Smoking Barrels, Snatch, Revolver is okay but tries too hard, and Rock n Rolla is also decent, Obviously any Quinton Tarantino, not just Pulp Fiction, including: Reservoir Dogs, True Romance, Jackie Brown, the Kill Bill's are okay, and Inglorious Bastards should be amazing A recent good one I've seen is "Lions for Lambs" which is Tom Cruise's best film an really makes you think (I highly recommend) And finally two great Tim Robbins' films that really make you think are "The Shawshank Redemption" and a less popular film with Jeff Bridges of "The Big Lebowski" called Arlington Road is a spectacular movie that really puzzles the mind

3rd September 2010, 08:30	#78
zarine Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 161	From the movies that you have mentioned, American Beauty is very good.

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