Procrustes ..where is it? - Page 2

MisaelG · 12th October 2011, 19:51

Yeah, good quality under 40% is almost impossible.

Every other plugin for winamp is hopeless (Fourier Pitch Tempo Control, PaceMaker, Nullsoft DSP Effects, Chronotron); they can all fast forward pretty good, but the slow-down is super crappy and doesn't even go under 50% most of the times.

Scaletempo from VLC is very similar to most winamp plugins, but it allows for some control over the algorithm. It kinda does the trick after some messing around with the settings (by default it's optimized for speed-up, so the "stride" is so long it creates echo effects, and just getting it shorter turns into incomprehensible robot).

I think Express Scribe (which is not free) uses an algorithm similar to Procrustes; at 50% the sound is extremely similar (and better than anything else). For me, it's overkill, though, Express Scribe is a dedicated transcription software with tons and tons of needless features to pump up the price.

All I need is a decent slow-down, and I'm living in hope I might get it for free out of the kindness of your heart

ViSlav · 21st November 2011, 13:07

I redesigned the plugin a little bit and made the scale logarithmic or anti-logarithmic (whatever you prefer, it depends on what "side" you are looking at the scale) so that half and double speeds are at the same distance from 100% (but at opposite sides, of course). I also expanded the scale to 25% (and 400%). I'll upload it soon. But bear in mind that according to Winamp docs a DSP plugin is allowed to return up to two times more samples than it has just received. In practice the behavior used to be that it depended on how long the buffer supplied by the current input plugin was. I don't know if anything has changed now in the recent versions. So you could expect crashes and/or distorted sound in some cases with tempo speeds below 50%.

ViSlav · 21st November 2011, 17:51

https://www.intelica.bg/dsp/winamp-plugin

MisaelG · 21st November 2011, 19:38

Works great, just as expected.

Haven't had crashes or any trouble so far (though i'm just starting to try it). I'll let you know if I run into trouble.

Thanks a bunch. It might have been motivated by very particular needs, but I think the log scale is a natural choice that'll benefit everyone; it just makes sense and it's awesome.

Forever grateful.
Misael.

ViSlav · 22nd November 2011, 06:15

You're welcome, Misael

hightekker · 26th September 2012, 11:11

Could anyone please re-upload Procrustes V1.01 and V1.11 alpha to some place as both megaupload and ViSlav's domain are down.
Thanks in advance!

clementj · 26th September 2012, 17:47

I have made it available as part of the Winamp Modern Folk Dance Skin at:

http://users.hal-pc.org/~clement/Win...ce%20Skin.html

It is in the plug-in package along with other useful things. There is an old copy of the Winamp FLAC decoder since the new one does not work with Chronotron.

You might find the Modern Folk Dance Skin to be interesting as I have rethought the old Modern Winamp skin to do all kinds of things. The look and feel is similar with extra functions and some seasonal pictures available. So rather than having different skins for different seasons this one skin allows you to just switch at the press of a button. With just a little editing you can create new skin overlays. In addition it has the ability to put dead space between tracks and even have Winamp stop after any particular track. Along with this is the ability to mark a begining and end point of a particular track so you can repeate it or go back to a specific place. There is also a live time counter that tells you the remaining time in your play list.

It is really designed to be used for recreational dance or dance instruction.

So enjoy Procrustes and check out my skin.

hightekker · 26th September 2012, 20:56

Thank you for the quick answer!
I installed the winamp essentials (did you mean that with plugin pack?). I don't find anything besides the Nullsoft plugin in Settings -> DSP/Effects.
Or could you please give me a direct link to the package, I didn't find the link to the plugin pack? Perhaps I'm blind... :-)

hightekker · 26th September 2012, 20:58

Ah, going one folder back in the URL shows me the Plugins.zip. Will try that. Thank you.

hightekker · 26th September 2012, 21:02

Great, that worked :-)
Do you also have the old (stable, non-alpha) Prokrustes version?

clementj · 26th September 2012, 21:16

Sorry I don't have the old version

hightekker · 27th September 2012, 06:16

Thank you anyway :-)

infoleather · 10th October 2012, 03:59

It is more in line with the new Winamp version and the newer versions of Windows, I will upload it.

Koogle · 26th October 2013, 12:25

Stupid fking usa scum government agency parasites taking down megaupload.

dsp_proc.dll the non alpha version...

This version dsp_proc.dll is V1.11a, Using SSE.. I've uploaded it here...

http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/61429611/file.html
http://ryushare.com/84dkafrofoyq/dsp_proc.dll
http://bayfiles.net/file/YKZn/UhE1L6/dsp_proc.dll
http://rghost.net/49735355
http://d01.megashares.com/dl/baHJa8p/dsp_proc.dll
http://www.sendmyway.com/r9ys8td7dmyk/dsp_proc.dll.html

hopefully one of these sites survives or deadamp is replaced by something better that actually offers improvements.

I had the others, but lost them and tbh this version was the best overall. Maybe ViSlav will be around again.

Koogle · 26th October 2013, 12:35

Found 2 other files...

The above dll version is not the same as Procrust_1.11a_4x ....the above dll version is the better one though it has the same version 1.11a.. .. but you have to put in the plugins folder yourself.. so hard

The following includes the original plugin exe installer for winamp..

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/B....20a.zip_links
https://netload*****dateiHQGEayeWEd/..._1.20a.zip.htm
http://www.ziddu.com/download/232144...1.20a.zip.html
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...rust_1.20a.zip
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...rust_1.20a.zip

bigger tempo bar (i think)
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0...a_4x.rar_links
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...t_1.11a_4x.rar
http://www.ziddu.com/download/232144...1a_4x.rar.html
https://netload*****dateimExWOvICLp/...11a_4x.rar.htm
http://rghost.net/49735617
http://d01.megashares.com/dl/E0XsOXH...t_1.11a_4x.rar

MadMonday · 11th September 2016, 18:11

Is it possible to get this Procrustes Plug-In again? ...after all these years... :-)

I really appreciate any help you can provide.

MadMonday

Koogle · 17th September 2016, 10:53

3years and all links dead ffs, nothing lasts on the internet....

here we go again...

====Procrust_1.20a.zip====
https://openload.co/f/JM7VGi3f1JU/Procrust_1.20a.zip
http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/rqpt0KGS/file.html
http://ge.tt/45uRFVe2
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/q6MnndZrNNe8M
https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/GCRYARDO

====Procrust_1.11a_4x.rar====
https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/0BYR6LZO
http://www93.zippyshare.com/v/RGQsokGH/file.html
https://openload.co/f/-x6NmlPpXIw/Procrust_1.11a_4x.rar
http://ge.tt/3knTFVe2
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/k3Z776aWdaZ7P

Koogle · 17th September 2016, 10:55

====Procrust_1.11alpha.exe====
https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/1KJLB2JM
http://ge.tt/1fAyFVe2
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/PMnkkqnPn3q4j

Koogle · 17th September 2016, 23:18

would the moderator approve the missing post above already (it includes links to the other procrust versions that I've uploaded,) it won't show up until its approved dunno why some new stupid winamp forum thing.

MadMonday · 22nd September 2016, 19:48

Wow, wow, wow... :-)

This Plugin is one reason why i still use the Winamp Player... ! Its great - and I love it.

Thanks a million... ! :-)

goodwinamp · 13th May 2017, 14:04

Can you send me these DSP plugins not more available:
-Diablo sampler;
-Procuste 1.11 alpha, 1.14 and 1.20;
-Soap;
-SL 1200 Speed controller

at rob-bru-no@libero.it?

Many thanks! They're unfindable...

pbleeker78 · 10th September 2017, 10:03

Cool, thank you for the info!

Koogle · 25th December 2020, 16:07

Procrust_1.20a_winamp.zip = https://www.solidfiles.com/v/38pMWvWxkapvg
Procrust_1.11alpha.exe = https://www.solidfiles.com/v/ZjqMeGNYqxm8p

12th October 2011, 19:51	#41
MisaelG Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3	I kinda knew so. Yeah, good quality under 40% is almost impossible. Every other plugin for winamp is hopeless (Fourier Pitch Tempo Control, PaceMaker, Nullsoft DSP Effects, Chronotron); they can all fast forward pretty good, but the slow-down is super crappy and doesn't even go under 50% most of the times. Scaletempo from VLC is very similar to most winamp plugins, but it allows for some control over the algorithm. It kinda does the trick after some messing around with the settings (by default it's optimized for speed-up, so the "stride" is so long it creates echo effects, and just getting it shorter turns into incomprehensible robot). I think Express Scribe (which is not free) uses an algorithm similar to Procrustes; at 50% the sound is extremely similar (and better than anything else). For me, it's overkill, though, Express Scribe is a dedicated transcription software with tons and tons of needless features to pump up the price. All I need is a decent slow-down, and I'm living in hope I might get it for free out of the kindness of your heart

21st November 2011, 19:38	#44
MisaelG Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3	Awesome Works great, just as expected. Haven't had crashes or any trouble so far (though i'm just starting to try it). I'll let you know if I run into trouble. Thanks a bunch. It might have been motivated by very particular needs, but I think the log scale is a natural choice that'll benefit everyone; it just makes sense and it's awesome. Forever grateful. Misael.

26th September 2012, 17:47	#47
clementj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 369	Procrustes is available on my website I have made it available as part of the Winamp Modern Folk Dance Skin at: http://users.hal-pc.org/~clement/Win...ce%20Skin.html It is in the plug-in package along with other useful things. There is an old copy of the Winamp FLAC decoder since the new one does not work with Chronotron. You might find the Modern Folk Dance Skin to be interesting as I have rethought the old Modern Winamp skin to do all kinds of things. The look and feel is similar with extra functions and some seasonal pictures available. So rather than having different skins for different seasons this one skin allows you to just switch at the press of a button. With just a little editing you can create new skin overlays. In addition it has the ability to put dead space between tracks and even have Winamp stop after any particular track. Along with this is the ability to mark a begining and end point of a particular track so you can repeate it or go back to a specific place. There is also a live time counter that tells you the remaining time in your play list. It is really designed to be used for recreational dance or dance instruction. So enjoy Procrustes and check out my skin.

26th October 2013, 12:25	#54
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	Stupid fking usa scum government agency parasites taking down megaupload. dsp_proc.dll the non alpha version... This version dsp_proc.dll is V1.11a, Using SSE.. I've uploaded it here... http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/61429611/file.html http://ryushare.com/84dkafrofoyq/dsp_proc.dll http://bayfiles.net/file/YKZn/UhE1L6/dsp_proc.dll http://rghost.net/49735355 http://d01.megashares.com/dl/baHJa8p/dsp_proc.dll http://www.sendmyway.com/r9ys8td7dmyk/dsp_proc.dll.html hopefully one of these sites survives or deadamp is replaced by something better that actually offers improvements. I had the others, but lost them and tbh this version was the best overall. Maybe ViSlav will be around again. My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

26th October 2013, 12:35	#55
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	Found 2 other files... The above dll version is not the same as Procrust_1.11a_4x ....the above dll version is the better one though it has the same version 1.11a.. .. but you have to put in the plugins folder yourself.. so hard The following includes the original plugin exe installer for winamp.. http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/B....20a.zip_links https://netload***dateiHQGEayeWEd/..._1.20a.zip.htm http://www.ziddu.com/download/232144...1.20a.zip.html http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...rust_1.20a.zip http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...rust_1.20a.zip bigger tempo bar (i think) http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0...a_4x.rar_links http://www.gamefront.com/files/23801...t_1.11a_4x.rar http://www.ziddu.com/download/232144...1a_4x.rar.html https://netload***dateimExWOvICLp/...11a_4x.rar.htm http://rghost.net/49735617 http://d01.megashares.com/dl/E0XsOXH...t_1.11a_4x.rar My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

21st November 2011, 13:07	#42
ViSlav Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15	I redesigned the plugin a little bit and made the scale logarithmic or anti-logarithmic (whatever you prefer, it depends on what "side" you are looking at the scale) so that half and double speeds are at the same distance from 100% (but at opposite sides, of course). I also expanded the scale to 25% (and 400%). I'll upload it soon. But bear in mind that according to Winamp docs a DSP plugin is allowed to return up to two times more samples than it has just received. In practice the behavior used to be that it depended on how long the buffer supplied by the current input plugin was. I don't know if anything has changed now in the recent versions. So you could expect crashes and/or distorted sound in some cases with tempo speeds below 50%.

21st November 2011, 17:51	#43
ViSlav Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15	https://www.intelica.bg/dsp/winamp-plugin

22nd November 2011, 06:15	#45
ViSlav Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15	You're welcome, Misael

26th September 2012, 11:11	#46
hightekker Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 5	Could anyone please re-upload Procrustes V1.01 and V1.11 alpha to some place as both megaupload and ViSlav's domain are down. Thanks in advance!

26th September 2012, 20:56	#48
hightekker Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 5	Thank you for the quick answer! I installed the winamp essentials (did you mean that with plugin pack?). I don't find anything besides the Nullsoft plugin in Settings -> DSP/Effects. Or could you please give me a direct link to the package, I didn't find the link to the plugin pack? Perhaps I'm blind... :-)

26th September 2012, 20:58	#49
hightekker Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 5	Ah, going one folder back in the URL shows me the Plugins.zip. Will try that. Thank you.

26th September 2012, 21:02	#50
hightekker Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 5	Great, that worked :-) Do you also have the old (stable, non-alpha) Prokrustes version?

26th September 2012, 21:16	#51
clementj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 369	Sorry I don't have the old version

27th September 2012, 06:16	#52
hightekker Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 5	Thank you anyway :-)

10th October 2012, 03:59	#53
infoleather Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	It is more in line with the new Winamp version and the newer versions of Windows, I will upload it.

11th September 2016, 18:11	#56
MadMonday Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 2	Is it possible to get this Procrustes Plug-In again? ...after all these years... :-) I really appreciate any help you can provide. MadMonday

17th September 2016, 10:53	#57
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	3years and all links dead ffs, nothing lasts on the internet.... here we go again... ====Procrust_1.20a.zip==== https://openload.co/f/JM7VGi3f1JU/Procrust_1.20a.zip http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/rqpt0KGS/file.html http://ge.tt/45uRFVe2 http://www.solidfiles.com/d/q6MnndZrNNe8M https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/GCRYARDO ====Procrust_1.11a_4x.rar==== https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/0BYR6LZO http://www93.zippyshare.com/v/RGQsokGH/file.html https://openload.co/f/-x6NmlPpXIw/Procrust_1.11a_4x.rar http://ge.tt/3knTFVe2 http://www.solidfiles.com/d/k3Z776aWdaZ7P My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

17th September 2016, 10:55	#58
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	====Procrust_1.11alpha.exe==== https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/1KJLB2JM http://ge.tt/1fAyFVe2 http://www.solidfiles.com/d/PMnkkqnPn3q4j My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

17th September 2016, 23:18	#59
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	would the moderator approve the missing post above already (it includes links to the other procrust versions that I've uploaded,) it won't show up until its approved dunno why some new stupid winamp forum thing. My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

22nd September 2016, 19:48	#60
MadMonday Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 2	Wow, wow, wow... :-) This Plugin is one reason why i still use the Winamp Player... ! Its great - and I love it. Thanks a million... ! :-)

13th May 2017, 14:04	#61
goodwinamp Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 39	Procuste dsp plugin for winamp...and others Can you send me these DSP plugins not more available: -Diablo sampler; -Procuste 1.11 alpha, 1.14 and 1.20; -Soap; -SL 1200 Speed controller at rob-bru-no@libero.it? Many thanks! They're unfindable...

10th September 2017, 10:03	#62
pbleeker78 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 22	Cool, thank you for the info!

25th December 2020, 16:07	#63
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 260	Procrust_1.20a_winamp.zip = https://www.solidfiles.com/v/38pMWvWxkapvg Procrust_1.11alpha.exe = https://www.solidfiles.com/v/ZjqMeGNYqxm8p My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

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