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Old 5th March 2013, 09:37   #1
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Winamp 5.7 Beta 13, build 3444 (with Winamp Cloud Beta)

Winamp 5.7 Beta, build 3444 (with Winamp Cloud Beta)

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Winamp 5.7
* New: Winamp Cloud Beta
* Improved: High DPI compatibility fixes (w.i.p.)
* Improved: [ml_downloads] Added 'Size' column
* Improved: [ml_pmp] Added 'Date Added' column
* Fixed: Length not being read when set to read titles on load
* Fixed: [in_flac] Removal of embedded artwork
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations

Winamp 5.65
* Improved: Memory allocation optimizations & fixes
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Show currently playing song
* Fixed: Some radio streams no longer playing as a result of the Icecast fix in 5.64
* Fixed: Crash when pasting artwork into File Info dialog in 5.64
* Fixed: [in_mp3] PIC frame rendering in ID3v2.2 tags
* Fixed: [gen_ml] Enter key not working correctly for ml views
* Fixed: [ml_local] Sporadic crashes when importing library in 5.64
* Fixed: [ml_plg] Broken 'View tracks similar to' menu item in main window songticker
* Fixed: [npwachk] Winamp Detector plugin not working with latest Firefox
* Fixed: [wasabi] Quirks with color theme list handling
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
* Updated: [enc_fhgaac] Fraunhofer AAC Encoder v3.02.15
* Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.17
* Updated: [gen_jumpex] JTFE v1.2.7

Winamp 5.64
* New: Option to run Winamp in Safe Mode (also via /SAFE=1 commandline switch)
* New: XSPF playlist support (read only support, write support to follow)
* Improved: Added tooltips for truncated text in Media Library listviews
* Improved: Added 'Explore item folder' to context menu in playlists
* Improved: Bookmark menu handling now follows Winamp's Play/Enqueue setting
* Improved: D3D vsync mode (should fix reported video tearing issues)
* Improved: Display album art source info in Artwork tab of File Info dialog
* Improved: Remember last position of dialogs
* Improved: Show rating from tags if file is not in Local Media Library
* Improved: Use new style dialog for folder browser
* Improved: Windows 8 filetype association compatibility
* Improved: [gen_ff] Multi-monitor support for Bento/Modern skin notifier
* Improved: [gen_ff] Windows 8 multi-monitor/taskbar mode compatibility
* Improved: [in_flac] FLAC streaming support
* Improved: [in_mp3] Shoutcast v2 in-stream artwork support (and other misc fixes)
* Improved: [in_mp3] Use MIME to determine decoder before assuming ext. is correct
* Improved: [in_mp4] Native ALAC playback support
* Improved: [in_mp4] Optimize MP4 Raw Reader by using chunks instead of samples
* Improved: [in_mp4] Write ratings to tags (using the "rate" atom)
* Improved: [ml_local/history] Friendlier error message if nde/database fails to load
* Improved: [ml_local] New 'Date Added' column (smart views adjusted accordingly)
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Now with Generate HTML Playlist support
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Save playlists to custom m3udir, if specified in paths.ini
* Improved: [ml_wire] Save (and backup) database files on updates instead of on exit
* Improved: [pmp_ipod] Added BPM, TotalTracks, Disc# & TotalDiscs metadata support
* Improved: [pmp_wifi] SSDP support and other optimizations
* Fixed: Failing to load on some Windows 8 (and earlier) installs (thanks Nanner)
* Fixed: Not playing the first song next when clearing then adding items to playlist
* Fixed: Bento/Modern skin notifier sometimes no longer appearing (thanks pjn123)
* Fixed: Deletion of 0-byte wdl*.tmp & wht*.tmp files
* Fixed: Issues with re-embedding of vis plug-ins in Bento skin when exiting fullscreen
* Fixed: Issues with some Icecast servers providing invalid stream links (v2.x bug!)
* Fixed: Potential crashes when rapidly switching between DSP plug-ins
* Fixed: [Bento Browser] Potential security vulnerabilities (thanks Julien Ahrens, inshell.net)
* Fixed: [gen_jumpex] Potential security vulnerabilities (thanks Julien Ahrens, inshell.net)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Mapping of POPM ratings scale
* Fixed: [in_mp4] Bug where too-small passed-in buffer size resulted in loss of data
* Fixed: [in_mp4] Seeking files/podcasts which use a single video frame as artwork
* Fixed: [in_vorbis] Not reading Disc# (plus other general Vorbis Comments fixes)
* Fixed: [in_wave] mldb info for .wav files being wiped after viewing Alt+3 dialog
* Fixed: [ml_disc] Blocking of context menu items in ml tree for History & Bookmarks
* Fixed: [ml_disc] Creation of 0-byte trk*.tmp files & associated crash on some systems
* Fixed: [ml_impex] UI lockups on import/export of large databases
* Fixed: [ml_wire] Subscriptions to podcast channels with the same name
* Fixed: [ombrowser] Alt Gr keys broken in Online Services text input fields
* Fixed: [pmp_android] Albumart-related crash when transferring ogg files
* Fixed: [pmp_android/usb] Transfers fail if <Albumartist> contains illegal characters
* Fixed: [pmp_p4s] Crash/hang on exit after transferring files to MTP/P4S devices
* Misc: All default plug-ins now include file description & version info properties
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
* Removed: [gen_orgler] The end of Winamp Charts & Music Usage Database
* Updated: [libFLAC] FLAC 1.3.0
* Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.16
* Updated: [gen_jumpex] JTFE v1.2.6
* Updated: [zlib.dll] zlib 1.2.8

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Winamp 5.7 Beta 3, build 3323 to 3364 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 5, build 3364 to 3367 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 6, build 3367 to 3381 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 7, build 3381 to 3392 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 8, build 3392 to 3402 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 9, build 3402 to 3416 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 10, build 3416 to 3417 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 12, build 3435 to 3437 changelog
Winamp 5.7 Beta 13, build 3437 to 3444 changelog

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More Info:

Winamp 5.7 Open Beta on Winamp Labs

Winamp Cloud Beta on Winamp Labs | Winamp Cloud FAQ

Winamp For Android 2.0 Beta on Winamp Labs | Discussion

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Notes / FAQ:

Re: New: Winamp Cloud Beta
Adds Plugins\ml_cloud.dll & pmp_cloud.dll, Components\cloud.w6c & ssdp.w6c, System\wasabi2.w5s to installation
and a "Cloud Sources" node to the Media Library.
Please refer to Winamp Labs and the Winamp Cloud forum for more info.

Re: Improved: Windows 8 filetype association compatibility
The "File Types" page in Winamp Prefs has been made Win8-compatible.
Associations in Win8 can now only be made via the Default Programs Control Panel in Windows.

Re: Improved: Added 'Explore item folder' to context menu in playlists
The installer will delete the (now-deprecated) "Find File On Disk" plugin from the Winamp Essentials Pack

Re: Improved: [in_mp4] Write ratings to tags (using the "rate" atom)
Requires "Save ratings to file for compatible formats (default: off)" to be checkmarked in: Prefs > Media Library > Library Options.

Re: Improved: [ml_local] New 'Date Added' column (smart views adjusted accordingly)
The old "Recently Added" view has now become "Recently Modified"
and is available via the Presets dropdown in the "Add Smart View" dialog.
The new "Recently Added" view now uses Date Added instead of Date Modified.

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Reporting Bugs:

Report any issues with Winamp 5.7 Beta in this thread only!
Make sure your report is complete, according to the sticky threads in Bug Reports, ie.
Clean install, no 3rd-party plugins, list of plugins via the InfoTool, full step-by-step method of reproduction, relevant system specs,
exact error messages, screenshots, which skin (Classic, Modern, Bento, or all three), what lang pack (if any), links to sample files, etc.

Report any issues with Winamp Cloud Beta in the Winamp Cloud forum only!
http://forums.winamp.com/forumdisplay.php?f=178

Report any issues with Winamp For Android 2.0 Beta in the sticky thread in the Android forum only!
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=356951


Note that incomplete/lame bug reports may be totally ignored.

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Known Bugs/Issues:

Some lang packs have not been updated. There might be some issues with the following languages:
Chinese, Korean... (send me a PM if you are interested in helping to update these packs)

Some of the other lang packs have only been partially updated for this build.
Before reporting, please test if the bug/crash/issue also occurs with the default English language first.

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Updates & Extras:

Winamp Essentials Pack 5.57 Beta 4

Winamp Skin Development Pack for Winamp 5.7+

Winamp Icon Packs

Winamp Color Themes Pack

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Old 9th March 2013, 14:35   #2
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Winamp Essentials Pack v5.7 Beta 4 (Build 2005)

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5.7 Beta 4:

* Updated: [gen_classicart] Album Art plugin to v0.93 (thanks DrO)
- fixed an error message on Winamp close
* Misc: [Installer] increased minimal required Winamp version to 5.7.0.3437

5.7 Beta 3:
* New: All Essentials Pack Plugins/Components now include file description & version info properties (thanks DrO)
* Updated: [gen_nopro] Lite-n Winamp Preferences to v1.71
* Updated: [gen_classicart] Album Art plugin to v0.92 (thanks DrO)
- Adding support to handle SHOUTcast 2 in-stream artwork from compatible SHOUTcast 2 DNAS
- Added support to query the file directly for rating information if no rating from library
* Updated: [UnicodeTaskbarFix.w5s] Unicode Taskbar Fix to v3.0.1
* Misc: [alac.w5s] removed obsolete Apple Lossless Playback (now part of Winamp)
* Misc: [gen_find_on_disk] removed obsolete Find File On Disk plugin (now part of Winamp)
* Misc: [Installer] made installer deletes obsolete 'Find File On Disk Plugin'
* Misc: [Installer] increased minimal required Winamp version to 5.7.0.3416

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Winamp Version Check for Essentials Pack

- Minimum Winamp version for installation is Winamp 5.7
- Installer provides a message and will abort, if minimum Winamp version isn't installed on the system
- if Winamp couldn't be detected on the system in general, installer provides an info message and will abort

Localization:

- example language file v1.16 available
- incomplete translations were disabled due compatibility issues

You can find more infos & the example language file in the Essentials Pack Localization Thread

Nothing really new, but should be updated for better compatibility, though.


Winamp 5.7 German Language File/Deutsche Sprachdatei

I ran out of time, Winamp 5.7 made some massive changes which affect language packs.
Most of the new translation stuff should be present, but please take the current language version as beta, it's possible, that it's still not complete.

Winamp 5.7 brachte massive Änderungen mit sich, die Auswirkungen auf die Sprachpakete haben. Der Großteil der Übersetzung sollte vollständig sein, aber hatte nicht genug Zeit, um alles zu verifizieren. Bitte betrachten Sie die jetzige Version als Beta Version.

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Hi DJ Egg,

The "Recently Added" view is still using the "File Time" data instead of the "Date Added" data, so files I recently modified were listed. After replacing "File Time" with "Date Added" the listing was correct, only showing files that were recently added.

Is "File Time" now the same as "Date Modified"?

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Hey Aminifu

Hmm, I'm not sure, tbh. I'll have to check... or maybe DrO can clarify...?

I think there's a difference between behaviour on clean installs and upgrades.
On clean installs, Recently Added should be using Date Added.
But on upgrades, it will probably still be using whatever it was using before, eg. Last Updated.

Date Added should be the date/time the file was added to the ML.
File Time should be the system creation date/time of the file? (tbc)
Last Updated should be the time the file was last modified (eg. when metadata was last edited, etc).

Though yeah, on further inspection, File Time does seem to correspond with Windows' Date Modified....
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I performed an upgrade, so that is probably the reason. Thanx for the quick response.

And for those who don't know, the time period in the view is set for the last 30 days. However, the date filter (file time, date added, or whatever) and the time period can be easily changed.

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In some cases, changes to the library won't get written back to disk, usually when you uncheck the box at the bottom of the Ctrl+E dialog in the Media Library. But also for filetypes that don't support metadata editing (e.g. MOD/S3M).

File Time should be the same as the "last modified" time for the file in the file system. I will followup on Egg's observation that it doesn't seem to be the case.
Date Modified is the last time the entry was modified in the database. Actions like changing playcount or rating do not modify Date Modified
Date Added

I'll also investigate the default rules for the Recently Added view. However, I'm fairly sure we don't modify any existing views (just change the default rules for fresh installs), which might explain why it's still using File Time for you.

edit: I should read Egg's reply before replying myself as I've basically just repeated everything he said. I blame lack of sleep
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Date Added should be the date/time the file was added to the ML.
File Time should be the system creation date/time of the file? (tbc)
Last Updated should be the time the file was last modified (eg. when metadata was last edited, etc).

Though yeah, on further inspection, File Time does seem to correspond with Windows' Date Modified....
If possible, File Time should be changed back to the system creation date&time (if it ever was), since Last Updated tracks Window's Date Modified.

Edit:
After reading Benski's post, I'm confused. It seems Last Updated may or may not track Window's Date Modified. If Winamp's tag editor is used, then it would. If a 3rd party tagger is used, it would not if the affected files are not rescanned.

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IT LIVES! Yay, thanks guys. Installing later today when I get home.

P.S. Winamp got a bit of a shoutout on Lifehacker last week.

Request: A little SmartView Query Language love.
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When a file is added to the library, or a metadata update to the file is made or detected, the "Last Updated" field is set to the current time.

If you edited the metadata from within Winamp, these two times will be nearly the same, as the database change will get picked up almost immediately.

If you edited the metadata of an MP3 yesterday using an external tool, and today you opened Winamp and started a rescan of the media library, the "Last Updated" time would show as today and "File Time" would show as yesterday.
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If you edited the metadata of an MP3 yesterday using an external tool, and today you opened Winamp and started a rescan of the media library, the "Last Updated" time would show as today and "File Time" would show as yesterday.
Ok, so there is nothing that tracks the file's system creation date & time. Correct?

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Ryan likes the old classic skin. I have not seen that in years!

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Ok, so there is nothing that tracks the file's system creation date & time. Correct?
Correct. This is an unreliable value anyway. Creation Time has a bad habit of getting blown away if you have to make changes via a temp file that is copied back to the original. There is a an API to avoid this, but it's only been available since Windows XP so a lot of older software (like Winamp) isn't using it, plus it's known widely known about. It also doesn't work in all situations.
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Hi DJ Egg,

The "Recently Added" view is still using the "File Time" data instead of the "Date Added" data, so files I recently modified were listed. After replacing "File Time" with "Date Added" the listing was correct, only showing files that were recently added.

Is "File Time" now the same as "Date Modified"?
on client updates, it populates date added from the last updated time which was present in the db. as a new field it had to be populated with something and that was the best way of doing it.

the view (if it exactly matched what was used for 'Recently Added' before) should have been swapped to use the date added param. but it was still possible that it wouldn't have been changed.


none of the other value handling should have seen any changes with what was being done previously, the only thing is that it's probably stemming from the rating changes and that we're better reporting changes happening on files. so if it wasn't working as expected, then this is most likely how things already were (though anything is possible with Winamp).
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Am I crazy or does 5.7 feel faster again? Excellent job!

I'm going to suggest this again real quick since the topic is on the ML query language fields: Hasalbumart would be an amazing addition so that Simple Album preset set to grid view could filter out those with no album cover art. And it would be great if the Tracks field corresponded to the number of tracks from the album actually in the library, like it is in the columns of Simple Album (a new Tracksinlibrary field would work too!). Other, more robust ideas for the query language can be found in the link in my sig.

Cheers for the ongoing development gentlemen!

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i've had some time to play around with this, some impressions:

no spam in the installer!
one 4 nunz is automatically removed. some mention of this should be made in the version history imo. if i manually put it back, will it not work?
i see JTFE remains
great ratings changes! big THANKS for fixing the POPM and adding the %rate% atom!
safe mode is another great new feature! been batting that one around a long time.

some questions:

is pmp_activesync.dll a nullsoft plugin? it does not say so. is it the cloud plugin? will it always say "NOT LOADED" when its not running?

i'm confused by the "Recently Added" view. when i click on it, it shows nothing. when i edit the view it says this:

dateadded > [3 days ago]

which, to me, reads that it should be showing, for some reason, everything added MORE THAN 3 days ago. but it doesn't, it shows nothing. and should it be everything added LESS THAN three days ago?

in addition, why do it like that at all? why not just have the view put everything in the ML in "date added" order, with the most recent first?

and i thought there was going to be a "recently modified" view as well, based on the files last modified date?

the date added column is also not woking properly.

as i understand it, the date added column value is not supposed to be something that a user can change via tag edits or rating or what not. the value is simply supposed to reflect when the filename first appeared in that location, and thats it, period.

however, the first file listed in my sorted date added column is a file i've had for years, and yet just recently made a small edit to the song title of. no change to the filename or folder location was made. the second song listed is the same way.

so, something is amiss.

in any case, this is a FANTASTIC release, and i'm really looking forward to all it can do, including the cloud, the artwork for streams in app, the source art, etc... GREAT work!

EDIT:

i forgot to mention, that the cloud seemed to add me via FB without the need for any email from you all.

also, i'd like to +1 this:

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I'm going to suggest this again real quick since the topic is on the ML query language fields: Hasalbumart would be an amazing addition so that Simple Album preset set to grid view could filter out those with no album cover art.
in my usage, i'd setup a smartview to show only those albums/songs/files WITHOUT art, so i could work on them (meaning those i wanted to add art to) as a group without having to look for missing ones, which is hard to do with 65k+ files!

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one 4 nunz is automatically removed. some mention of this should be made in the version history imo. if i manually put it back, will it not work?
it is broken. putting it back in will cause issues with this version. that is why it is force removed.

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is pmp_activesync.dll a nullsoft plugin? it does not say so. is it the cloud plugin? will it always say "NOT LOADED" when its not running?
it is official. it shows that message since it only loads when not needed. it relates to the safe mode changes so plug-ins not loaded / failing to load will now be shown. it just shows the plug-in name since if it's not loaded, there's no way for the plug-in to provide a name to Winamp (as loaded plug-ins do).

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i'm confused by the "Recently Added" view. when i click on it, it shows nothing. when i edit the view it says this:

dateadded > [3 days ago]

which, to me, reads that it should be showing, for some reason, everything added MORE THAN 3 days ago. but it doesn't, it shows nothing. and should it be everything added LESS THAN three days ago?
it is the same query that was in place beforehand (which was lastupd > [3 days ago]), just with dateadded used instead. if it's wrong then it's been wrong for years.

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in addition, why do it like that at all? why not just have the view put everything in the ML in "date added" order, with the most recent first?
because it was done without much time and just made use of the existing view defaults. so if it's not right, that is how it has been like for years and no one has noticed / bothered to report it. and i don't know if there is an issue or not.

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and i thought there was going to be a "recently modified" view as well, based on the files last modified date?
there is in the views presets. which is what was the 'recently added' query (as posted above) but left as a 'recently modified' option. you have to manually add / edit an existing view to see it.

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the date added column is also not woking properly.

as i understand it, the date added column value is not supposed to be something that a user can change via tag edits or rating or what not. the value is simply supposed to reflect when the filename first appeared in that location, and thats it, period.
date added is when the file was added to the library. i have said what it is based on as it had to be populated from something. so yes it probably looks wrong / isn't what you expect but it's a compromise when there's no known value to populate it accurately.

anything added from now on will be correct. anything imported gets a best guess applied as again, there is no way of knowing when a file was added to the library (and setting everything to the first time this update is run did not seem correct).

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i forgot to mention, that the cloud seemed to add me via FB without the need for any email from you all.
that's not correct. it will be fixed.
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btw, here are the convos about "recently added" etc:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=304863

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=261936

EDIT:

also, add "New: ability to specify user's email address to id3 POPM ratings" to the version history. (or "Improved")


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Hello, with this beta I'm getting many "ICY 404 Resource not found" error messages with Shoutcast TV.
Shoutcast Radio and Winamp 5.63 are ok.
You too?
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Old 9th March 2013, 22:42   #19
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reproduced.
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Very small bug:

When you click the button to restart in safe mode, if you have another window going that can potentially obscure the dialog referring to safe mode, Winamp doesn't bring the confirmation dialog to the front. I waited about 20 seconds before investigating why it wasn't doing anything when I saw that the dialog was open and showing but was behind my browser (which was maximized at the time.)

Windows XP Home SP3 all updates.

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Otherwise, I didn't see any other problems with safe mode although it was just a preliminary test.
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fixed, needed MB_TOPMOST
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I created a plugin to purposefully divide by zero (double/double) to test out the gen_crasher.

Attached the report file.
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well, i just got back and tried to start winamp.

"winamp stopped working"

the only plugin i have besides those coming with the installer is the SC dsp.

when i rename the extension, winamp still crashes. this is not good.

EDIT:

i don't know if this matters, but the last thing i had done was put the columns:

File Time, Last Updated, Date Added

in the ML tracks pane in that order from the start of the leftside (in a top 2 pane, albumartist / album-art-icon-small view), with the arrow facing down on "Last Updated"

maybe thats crashing it? any help?

EDIT 2:

i think i'm onto something... i renamed the gen_ml.dll and now winamp starts. i just don't have the ML tab. i can play music and otherwise winamp is fine.

perhaps another bug though: when i clicked the "visualization" tab, the whole screen went black and the resolution seemingly changed, and i had to hit "esc" to get back to a normal screen.

(i also put the SC dsp back with gen_ml disabled and winamp still worked)

EDIT 3:

ok, i am def making progress. i opened up the gen_ml.ini file in the roaming dir, and noticed it had a new section, "ML Cloud" in it. when i cut it out completely, restarted winamp, SUCCESS! i was now back in business. all the views worked.

i clicked on the cloud, and it started rescanning my collection again, only this time it did a second, slower phase.

when i exited winamp, and restarted winamp, CRASH! so it would seem cloud services are causing these crashes. and i'm still seemingly getting in and out of the cloud service with no email from you all.

if i rename the cloud dll, i can start/stop winamp as much as i want.

so i think it has to do with the values for the cloud info in gen_ml.ini, and the way it tries to start and stop from whatever point it left off at.

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
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BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing

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MrSinatra: you are correct about the settings but wrong about the dll causing it and it was fixed internally ~6hrs before you noticed, though i'm pretty certain you shouldn't be seeing any of the cloud aspects at the moment (which is also part of the reason it's crashing for you).
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Winamp doesn't seem to remember the recently selected tree item in ML.

I have a playlist called "Alles" ("All" in German) where I have everything I currently listen to. Usually, this is selected in ML. So I open Winamp (shuffle is always on), then I just have to double click the selected Playlist.

In 5.7, when I open Winamp, it always selects the topmost item in the tree, which is "Lesezeichen" (Bookmarks)...


The bug with destroying m4a files when editing the tags after clearing the playlist, but still playing the file, is FIXED now - perfect, thanks! It also reliably works now for MP3. New tag is correctly written, and file keeps playing, and title is updated in the scroller, but playlist remains empty if it has been cleared manually before.

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[EDIT: Fixed typos... thanks!]

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A few things

1. Very disappointed no updates amendments to podcast system, Needs refreshed, and didn't see anything that shows fixed bug of disappearing list of podcast subscriptions. Hope I'm wrong.

2. see attached, says there's a not loaded DLL. Why is this? or what have i done wrong?

3. Cloud services needs Facebook login. I don't have one or want one, any other way to use the services? Like dropbox?

4. new update has amended/auto tagged a number of my singles. How do I remove this?
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kzuse: with the view select on loading, one of the beta testers saw a similar thing but hasn't been the time to try to replicate / fix it.

joebloggscity:

#1 - there is changes to the podcast handling, but most of it is covered by the 'misc' changes. it will make a backup of the files on saving, only saves the files used _when_ needed which should improve reliability and a number of other under the hood things. a complete re-vamp of something that i was fixing in my own time is not going to have happened.

#2 - was covered a few posts up. if you don't have an active sync device then the plug-on won't load and it relates to the safe mode changes so you now see _what_ hasn't been able to be loaded. if it worries you, delete the plug-in and make sure to un-check it in the installer so it won't come back in future.

#3 - there will be additional sign-in methods coming later.

#4 - there were _no_ auto-tagging changes in this build so files should not have been altered in any way. you'd need to provide more details to ensure it's not just the library values which have been updated (as there was a library re-build as part of the install).
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3. Cloud services needs Facebook login. I don't have one or want one, any other way to use the services? Like dropbox?
I also dislike Facebook. Why was not the AOL login also used ?
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Old 10th March 2013, 09:35   #29
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because it's beta and it's in a limited form at the moment. as i've said above, other sign-in methods will follow i am just the messenger (as i realise a lot of people - myself included - are not keen on using facebook login but this is what the beta product is currently using).
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[Edit] I'm too slow today. DrO already replied to most of these. Sorry for the repeats [/Edit]

@ksuze

Are there a couple of typos in this statement?

"The bug with destroying m4a files then editing the tags after clearing the playlist, but still playing the file, is FIXED not - perfect, thanks!"

Should it say this instead?

"The bug with destroying m4a files when editing the tags after clearing the playlist, but still playing the file, is FIXED now - perfect, thanks!"


Re: "Winamp doesn't seem to remember the recently selected tree item in ML"

Are you using a lang pack? Does it also happen with English?
Are there any non-default plugins present?


@joebloggscity

1. There's a a couple of ml_wire (podcasts) entries in the changelog. You should also see feeds.xml.backup & rss.xml.backup files in %appdata%\winamp\plugins\ml

2. The ActiveSync plugin will only load if MS ActiveSync is installed and an ActiveSync/Windows-Mobile device is attached.

3. From 1st post: Winamp Cloud FAQ
More auth logins are coming soon (Google, AOL/Winamp, etc). But for now, it's Facebook or nothing. Sorry.

4. Winamp doesn't do that.


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Re: "also, add "New: ability to specify user's email address to id3 POPM ratings" to the version history. (or "Improved")"

Hmm, nah. That's more of a power user thing. We'd much prefer if people continued using the winamp.com one ;-)


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Thx for the fast responses. Really appreciate, and apologies if I missed anything in my questions.

as for no.4, let's see if it happens to others, it's strange as lots of my singles got retagged with track numbers, which was wierd. only happened after new update.

I'll see if such happens again and i'll get back to you all.

thx for the work done on winamp, and I hope work can be done on winamp podcasts in future to spruce it all up.
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what do you think needs to be done to the podcast support?
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some unicode problems ?
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most likely it's sending utf-8 and we're not expecting that for what seems to be being treated as a SHOUTcast steam (even though it's not a SHOUTcast server). that would explain the weirdness in characters.
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[Edit] I'm too slow today. DrO already replied to most of these. Sorry for the repeats [/Edit]

@ksuze

Are there a couple of typos in this statement?

"The bug with destroying m4a files then editing the tags after clearing the playlist, but still playing the file, is FIXED not - perfect, thanks!"

Should it say this instead?

"The bug with destroying m4a files when editing the tags after clearing the playlist, but still playing the file, is FIXED now - perfect, thanks!"


Re: "Winamp doesn't seem to remember the recently selected tree item in ML"

Are you using a lang pack? Does it also happen with English?
Are there any non-default plugins present?
Oh, thank you. Sorry, I was in a haste when typing this... I fixed it. You assumed the correct meaning, though.

Regarding the ML not remembering the view: I spent some more time investigating this.

What happens is the following:
I am using classic skin only.

When selecting some playlist in the ML tree, then CLOSING the ML window and exiting Winamp, and then again starting Winamp and then OPENING the ML window again, "Bookmarks" will be selected.

When selecting some playlist in the ML tree, leaving the ML window OPEN when closing Winamp, and then again starting Winamp, it will come up with the ML windows STILL OPEN and STILL selected the correct playlist in the tree!!

I usually close the ML window when I don't need it, so this behaviour would be a bug/regression to me.

No 3rd party plugins, and it also happens with English language (tested both).

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I have another question: What is "nxlite.dll" for, which has been added to Winamps Program directory? I don't have installed Cloud Beta or anything new I hadn't checked in the installer in previous versions...

Thanks & Best regards!
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your closing the window matches with what the reported as causing the issue (as referenced in my earlier reply) so seems like it's consistent. will hopefully be fixed before the next build.

nxlite.dll is a common dll being used between some of the plug-ins. i strongly advise against doing anything with it, especially removing it otherwise your Winamp will not work correctly / at all.
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No, I wouldn't delete it. Just wanted to know what it's for.
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Re: "Winamp doesn't seem to remember the recently selected tree item in ML"

Are you using a lang pack? Does it also happen with English?
Are there any non-default plugins present?
Saw this randomly in the internal beta builds as well, when ml_cloud was introduced.
It selects the top view instead of the last used view. The language doesn't matter, but reproducing it is terrible.

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the view selection issue is irrespective of the cloud support, it just coincided with the support appearing in internal builds.
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In Modern Skin it's really hard to reproduce, but as DrO already mentioned, it is quite reproducable in Classic Skin when you close the whole ML before quitting Winamp, as I usually do (as mentioned before).

Refer to what DrO wrote:

Quote:
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your closing the window matches with what the reported as causing the issue (as referenced in my earlier reply) so seems like it's consistent. will hopefully be fixed before the next build.
I think that sounds good so I have hope in the next build.
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