Skinning in general

skinme! · 3rd July 2001, 21:47

Apart from Winamp 2.x and 3.x how many of you skin for other programs? I just downloaded Opera due to Jones' rantings about it and discovered it was partially skinnable. I'm not saying I will but I was looking through and it's not to complex to do.

Also, how many of you design web sites? How many can code HTMl and how many other web formats such as PHP, ASP, etc?

I skin Winamp (obviously) and dabble in web design. I know HTML fairly well (ie I could build a page in Notepad if I so wished). I'm thinking of learning a more interactive and powerful web language. What do you think I should learn, ASP, PHP, XMl, or something else?

BTW, Happy 200th post skinme! Have a vodka on me!

Mr Jones · 3rd July 2001, 21:56

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=52957

ampburner · 3rd July 2001, 22:09

Quote:

Have a vodka on me!

hmmm... OKAY!!!!

Congratz btw

I've only skin winamp (yet?)

Mr Jones · 3rd July 2001, 22:25

Quote:

Originally posted by ampburner

Quote:

Have a vodka on me!

hmmm... OKAY!!!! Congratz btw

I've only skin winamp (yet?)

What was Liquid DFX then

ampburner · 3rd July 2001, 22:26

....forgot that one

but it was winamp-ish....does that count?

flatmatt · 3rd July 2001, 22:41

I skin Winamp, MikroAMP, and I tried at Winamp3 at Alpha 2. I make pages, such as http://www.flatmatt.com (only HTML, though)

dekt · 4th July 2001, 02:57

Why anyone wants to voluntarily get into ths scripting stuff is beyond me. I think computers should do the donkey work so you don't have to. Anyway, why not look at this Webmonkey article for a comparison?

I posted in the other thread but I don't want it to look like I only ever design for money. I didn't get payment for the Savalas job, just experience in Flash. The only other site I've done is my own, slightly neglected HTML effort which has my student and other work on it (more for print than screen though and Dreamweaver/Fireworks did a lot of the work

).

THEMike · 4th July 2001, 08:14

Skinning:

YerTV - 2 or 3 skins (and I did code 2.x until we died!) at skinz.org still I guess

WinAMP - 6 skins, only one or two are still worth using. Others are too old skool.
ICQ - Had a go, couldn't be bothered
Wallpapers - Quite a few: http://www.skinmaster.co.uk/skinz

HTML - You're joking right

http://www.skinmaster.co.uk - and I did the GFX!
http://www.fuckingbrit.com - Did the logo, the rest is a standard theme from phpNuke for the design, the old site was all me.
http://www.shadesofgod.co.uk - Did everything except the logo
http://www.offyertits.com - closed to the public, but all me

Scripting: ASP, PHP, TCL, Vignette, VBS Um it's what I do for a living! Here's what I do in my time:

http://www.skinmaster.co.uk - All php stuff, mostly GNU code ported to my needs.
http://www.fuckingbrit.co.uk - PHPNuke on this version, my own ASP on the last
http://www.shadesofgod.co.uk - My PHP and phpBB (GNU)
http://www.snakenetmetalradio.com - All my ASP

Quote:

Originally posted by dekt
Why anyone wants to voluntarily get into ths scripting stuff is beyond me.

So you can make really cool shit on your web site.

My tuppence worth:

ASP is easier to learn, less powerful, more expensive to get hosting for.

PHP is more powerful, harder to learn, cheaper to host, and you can get code to do most everything that you can adjust to your exact needs easily as most PHP apps are GNU (Free, with source code) check out http://www.hotscripts.com

tada.

garetjax · 4th July 2001, 09:47

Skin:
- NeoPlanet
- Winamp
- IExplore
- FusionFTP

Web:
- HTML
- DHTML
- JavaScript
- VBScript
- SQL
- ASP
- JSP
- CFM

Art:
- Digital Photography
- Wallpapers
- Printable Art

Mr Jones · 4th July 2001, 15:34

skins skins everywhere...

winamp, dfx, mikro, tried netscape hated it, icq, yahoo messenger, wallpapers blah blah

web crap, html, dhtml, javascript usual load of old crap, starting with xml and php at the minute, yep that includes WA3 skinning

e-blackadder · 4th July 2001, 18:58

Skinned a couple of airplanes for the "x-plane" flight simulator... does that count?

also done some digital artwork, logo and icon design.

Nini · 5th July 2001, 08:27

Happy 200th skinme!!!

Hmm..icons! skinning icons is quite nice,if you don't like win's defaults and aren't too lazy

Winamp-why would I post here if not ?
Languages...html is easy,xml is the same principle as far as I know (WA3 is waiting)

Tried to learn Java Script but didn't get far...I didn't spend much time on it though...
The only real programming language i know is -guess what- the oldfashioned Pascal (school-anybody else, too?)

WarpFlyght · 5th July 2001, 08:38

Skins... Only done three true skins that saw the light of day, with another five in partially completed or final photoshop draft form... Fluent in HTML and BASIC, with some to a fair amount of comprenenshion of Java, JavaScript and C++. Do lots of web designing, graphic designing, etc... I just haven't let much of my work out to be viewed by the masses. I never feel satisfied. :P Working on technique.

skinme! · 5th July 2001, 17:47

Thanks.... during my school holidays I'll have a look at PHP!

PUIKradio Alternative #1 · 5th July 2001, 18:20

i'm busy with my first skin now, it is though, but allright..
i think PHP is best to learn, cause it's unix based(read:freeware)
Asp for instance only runs on the microsoft IIS server, but the web standarad server is apache.
and it's much easier to learn than CGI(perl)

flatmatt · 5th July 2001, 19:14

and I can make a mean quiz in Q-BASIC!

dekt · 5th July 2001, 19:45

I could make my name appear on the screen using Pascal and make it scroll using COMAL! If only I'd stuck in at my school programming. By now I could make my name appear in different colours!

Sorry if it seemed I was being disparaging about programming. Just understand I'm a designer first and a computer user second so I don't relish this stuff the way some of you do. If I had any aptitude for programming I'd probably love it too especially considering the money that can be made.

There's no escape from it though. After getting thoroughly sick of Macromedia Director and its twisted ways I get into Flash and find most of the cool stuff needs Actionscript to work.

If only webmonkeys really existed I could get a mad interactive site going for the price of a bag of peanuts. (Anyone seen that Simpsons episode where Homer charges room service to the company and Mr Burns tries to send his 'flying' monkeys to get him? "Oh well back to the laboratory".

Classic (I may be the only person who thinks this but hey).)

skinme! · 5th July 2001, 19:55

Ahhh... Q-BASIC

I remember the memories. My school has just (this year) upgraded the entire school network to Windows 98 (instead of 3.11) and even now has the Internet!

As a result, DOS got ditched somewhere along the line. Along with Q-BASIC. That's what made me learn to socialise

e-blackadder · 5th July 2001, 20:03

First real programming I ever did wuz on a BRAND SPANKING NEW tandy trs80 computer. (yes, I remember when the trs80 first came out.) Funny thing is, I still have the computer and it still works.

I oughta donate it to a museam somewhere.

Nini · 5th July 2001, 20:46

Hey I almost forgot: I can program for a graphics pocket calculator from CASIO !!!!

(we used 'em in school)
Anyboy else too?

The Only Lynx · 5th July 2001, 20:57

lol.. those casios came 1 year after i left school.. hehe.. but my bros gf can do it..

Nini · 5th July 2001, 22:15

they're really cool...esp. when you want legally! to use your schoolbook in an exam...lol

The Only Lynx · 5th July 2001, 22:19

you can put games in it

Nini · 5th July 2001, 22:43

as well

though they're quite primitive

but I'm pretty good at shooting games now

nevertheless: the possibility of cheating is much better I think

BullGawD · 5th July 2001, 23:38

heehee, I had a cool little proggy for my calculator that would get you around required memory wipes. You could run it, and make it appear that your memory was completly clear. I never used it, but I made a few bucks.

As far as stuff I've done, it's kind of dodgy. When I want to do something, I learn enough of it's respective code to get it done. Sometimes I do enough of one thing to get around pretty easily. Most of what I've done is game related.

Congrats skinme!!

Nini · 5th July 2001, 23:52

he, that's funny!

But what good is a program that makes it look as if the memory is clear but in reality you have only 2 bytes free?

Ahh! I see...cheating,right?

PUIKradio Alternative #1 · 8th July 2001, 14:16

In holland, ew use the texas Ti83 graphic calculators..
You can program tetris and other games on the calculator , or on your pc..
and Q basic, there were a few free games with it too...

ampburner · 8th July 2001, 14:32

kewl, another Cheesehead

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 14:44

ampburner · 8th July 2001, 14:46

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 14:52

PUIKradio Alternative #1 · 8th July 2001, 14:58

i don't feel the need to be elected cause i'm just a bollock with headache..

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 15:01

Quote:

Originally posted by PUIKradio Alternative #1
i don't feel the need to be elected cause i'm just a bollock with headache..

And that means exactly what?

PUIKradio Alternative #1 · 8th July 2001, 15:08

that i'm very good speaker english so fuck on with your question very stupid!

N.B. to answer yer question.. dunno, just for the hack of it

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 15:14

Quote:

Originally posted by PUIKradio Alternative #1
that i'm very good speaker english so fuck on with your question very stupid!

N.B. to answer yer question.. dunno, just for the hack of it

Oh I see

Amp, translate something for him would you, I think you can probably guess what

ampburner · 8th July 2001, 16:04

Ok...here goes...

Quote:

a bollock with headache..

Cheesehead does NOT equal Dickhead. it means "Kaaskop" as in refering to the fact that you're Nederlands

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 16:07

I was hoping you might translate into Dutch for him what happens when he tells other forum members , in particular "me", to "fuck on with your question very stupid".

I'm sure you don't need me to spell it out

ampburner · 8th July 2001, 16:13

Ah...he seemed sincerely offended by the cheesehead remark, that's why I translated it LOL

I don't think the word moderator needs to be translated though

But if you insist... moderator means something you don't want to mess with hehehe... in short I'd like to suggest PUIKradio Alternative #1 to pick on somebody his own size

Other wise there could be trouble....

Mr Jones · 8th July 2001, 16:18

See I thought it was my "what's that mean" comment, cos I couldn't see a link between him being an "elected bollock with a headache" and "cheeseheads".

Maybe he thought you said he had a cheesy head, offensive enuff in any language

ampburner · 8th July 2001, 16:20

Or perhaps ....nah, wouldn't want to start a flamewar now would I

hehehe nevermind

3rd July 2001, 22:41	#6
flatmatt Iron Chef (Reviewer) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Winamp Island Posts: 3,039	I skin Winamp, MikroAMP, and I tried at Winamp3 at Alpha 2. I make pages, such as http://www.flatmatt.com (only HTML, though) flatmatt.com v5.0 \| Echoes \| Meddling Kids v1.52 Space Invaders v1.1 \| Danielle Fishel v1.11

4th July 2001, 02:57	#7
dekt Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hamilton, Scotland Posts: 281	Pourquoi? Why anyone wants to voluntarily get into ths scripting stuff is beyond me. I think computers should do the donkey work so you don't have to. Anyway, why not look at this Webmonkey article for a comparison? I posted in the other thread but I don't want it to look like I only ever design for money. I didn't get payment for the Savalas job, just experience in Flash. The only other site I've done is my own, slightly neglected HTML effort which has my student and other work on it (more for print than screen though and Dreamweaver/Fireworks did a lot of the work). Support your local team

4th July 2001, 09:47	#9
garetjax Candyass (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 2,344	okay.. Skin: - NeoPlanet - Winamp - IExplore - FusionFTP Web: - HTML - DHTML - JavaScript - VBScript - SQL - ASP - JSP - CFM Art: - Digital Photography - Wallpapers - Printable Art 1001skins.net \| That's not a skin, it's some god awful piece of skinner gunk.

4th July 2001, 18:58	#11
e-blackadder Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the elizabethan era. Posts: 446	Skinned a couple of airplanes for the "x-plane" flight simulator... does that count? also done some digital artwork, logo and icon design. FEEL THE POWER

5th July 2001, 08:27	#12
Nini skin domptrice (Major Dudette) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tatooine Posts: 2,270	Happy 200th skinme!!! Hmm..icons! skinning icons is quite nice,if you don't like win's defaults and aren't too lazy Winamp-why would I post here if not ? Languages...html is easy,xml is the same principle as far as I know (WA3 is waiting) Tried to learn Java Script but didn't get far...I didn't spend much time on it though... The only real programming language i know is -guess what- the oldfashioned Pascal (school-anybody else, too?) The skin love webring

3rd July 2001, 21:47	#1
skinme! Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Website: skinme.net Posts: 3,352	Apart from Winamp 2.x and 3.x how many of you skin for other programs? I just downloaded Opera due to Jones' rantings about it and discovered it was partially skinnable. I'm not saying I will but I was looking through and it's not to complex to do. Also, how many of you design web sites? How many can code HTMl and how many other web formats such as PHP, ASP, etc? I skin Winamp (obviously) and dabble in web design. I know HTML fairly well (ie I could build a page in Notepad if I so wished). I'm thinking of learning a more interactive and powerful web language. What do you think I should learn, ASP, PHP, XMl, or something else? BTW, Happy 200th post skinme! Have a vodka on me! He had decided to live forever, or die in the attempt In America - a must see film

3rd July 2001, 21:56	#2
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=52957

3rd July 2001, 22:26	#5
ampburner Forum King Join Date: May 2000 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2,237	....forgot that one but it was winamp-ish....does that count?

4th July 2001, 15:34	#10
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	skins skins everywhere... winamp, dfx, mikro, tried netscape hated it, icq, yahoo messenger, wallpapers blah blah web crap, html, dhtml, javascript usual load of old crap, starting with xml and php at the minute, yep that includes WA3 skinning

5th July 2001, 08:38	#13
WarpFlyght Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida... Somewhere on the road between hell and the local sauna. Posts: 239	Skins... Only done three true skins that saw the light of day, with another five in partially completed or final photoshop draft form... Fluent in HTML and BASIC, with some to a fair amount of comprenenshion of Java, JavaScript and C++. Do lots of web designing, graphic designing, etc... I just haven't let much of my work out to be viewed by the masses. I never feel satisfied. :P Working on technique. "Aye, and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." -- Montgomery Scott, ST:III

5th July 2001, 17:47	#14
skinme! Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Website: skinme.net Posts: 3,352	Thanks.... during my school holidays I'll have a look at PHP! He had decided to live forever, or die in the attempt In America - a must see film

5th July 2001, 18:20	#15
PUIKradio Alternative #1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: HOLLAND ARNHEM Posts: 13	to anser the question i'm busy with my first skin now, it is though, but allright.. i think PHP is best to learn, cause it's unix based(read:freeware) Asp for instance only runs on the microsoft IIS server, but the web standarad server is apache. and it's much easier to learn than CGI(perl)

5th July 2001, 19:14	#16
flatmatt Iron Chef (Reviewer) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Winamp Island Posts: 3,039	Oh, yeah and I can make a mean quiz in Q-BASIC! flatmatt.com v5.0 \| Echoes \| Meddling Kids v1.52 Space Invaders v1.1 \| Danielle Fishel v1.11

5th July 2001, 19:45	#17
dekt Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hamilton, Scotland Posts: 281	I could make my name appear on the screen using Pascal and make it scroll using COMAL! If only I'd stuck in at my school programming. By now I could make my name appear in different colours! Sorry if it seemed I was being disparaging about programming. Just understand I'm a designer first and a computer user second so I don't relish this stuff the way some of you do. If I had any aptitude for programming I'd probably love it too especially considering the money that can be made. There's no escape from it though. After getting thoroughly sick of Macromedia Director and its twisted ways I get into Flash and find most of the cool stuff needs Actionscript to work. If only webmonkeys really existed I could get a mad interactive site going for the price of a bag of peanuts. (Anyone seen that Simpsons episode where Homer charges room service to the company and Mr Burns tries to send his 'flying' monkeys to get him? "Oh well back to the laboratory". Classic (I may be the only person who thinks this but hey).) Support your local team

5th July 2001, 19:55	#18
skinme! Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Website: skinme.net Posts: 3,352	Ahhh... Q-BASIC I remember the memories. My school has just (this year) upgraded the entire school network to Windows 98 (instead of 3.11) and even now has the Internet! As a result, DOS got ditched somewhere along the line. Along with Q-BASIC. That's what made me learn to socialise He had decided to live forever, or die in the attempt In America - a must see film

5th July 2001, 20:03	#19
e-blackadder Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the elizabethan era. Posts: 446	st I feel old. First real programming I ever did wuz on a BRAND SPANKING NEW tandy trs80 computer. (yes, I remember when the trs80 first came out.) Funny thing is, I still have the computer and it still works. I oughta donate it to a museam somewhere. FEEL THE POWER**

5th July 2001, 20:46	#20
Nini skin domptrice (Major Dudette) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tatooine Posts: 2,270	Hey I almost forgot: I can program for a graphics pocket calculator from CASIO !!!! (we used 'em in school) Anyboy else too?

5th July 2001, 20:57	#21
The Only Lynx Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,938	lol.. those casios came 1 year after i left school.. hehe.. but my bros gf can do it.. "when you are with me i'm free, i'm careless, i believe"

5th July 2001, 22:15	#22
Nini skin domptrice (Major Dudette) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tatooine Posts: 2,270	they're really cool...esp. when you want legally! to use your schoolbook in an exam...lol The skin love webring

5th July 2001, 22:19	#23
The Only Lynx Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,938	you can put games in it "when you are with me i'm free, i'm careless, i believe"

5th July 2001, 22:43	#24
Nini skin domptrice (Major Dudette) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tatooine Posts: 2,270	as well though they're quite primitive but I'm pretty good at shooting games now nevertheless: the possibility of cheating is much better I think

5th July 2001, 23:38	#25
BullGawD Cool Guy. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,122	heehee, I had a cool little proggy for my calculator that would get you around required memory wipes. You could run it, and make it appear that your memory was completly clear. I never used it, but I made a few bucks. As far as stuff I've done, it's kind of dodgy. When I want to do something, I learn enough of it's respective code to get it done. Sometimes I do enough of one thing to get around pretty easily. Most of what I've done is game related. Congrats skinme!! ...a blatant person.

5th July 2001, 23:52	#26
Nini skin domptrice (Major Dudette) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tatooine Posts: 2,270	he, that's funny! But what good is a program that makes it look as if the memory is clear but in reality you have only 2 bytes free? Ahh! I see...cheating,right?

8th July 2001, 14:16	#27
PUIKradio Alternative #1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: HOLLAND ARNHEM Posts: 13	and texas In holland, ew use the texas Ti83 graphic calculators.. You can program tetris and other games on the calculator , or on your pc.. and Q basic, there were a few free games with it too...

8th July 2001, 14:32	#28
ampburner Forum King Join Date: May 2000 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2,237	kewl, another Cheesehead

8th July 2001, 14:44	#29
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098

8th July 2001, 14:46	#30
ampburner Forum King Join Date: May 2000 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2,237

8th July 2001, 14:52	#31
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098

8th July 2001, 14:58	#32
PUIKradio Alternative #1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: HOLLAND ARNHEM Posts: 13	! i don't feel the need to be elected cause i'm just a bollock with headache..

8th July 2001, 15:08	#34
PUIKradio Alternative #1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: HOLLAND ARNHEM Posts: 13	that i'm very good speaker english so fuck on with your question very stupid! N.B. to answer yer question.. dunno, just for the hack of it

8th July 2001, 16:07	#37
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	I was hoping you might translate into Dutch for him what happens when he tells other forum members , in particular "me", to "fuck on with your question very stupid". I'm sure you don't need me to spell it out

8th July 2001, 16:13	#38
ampburner Forum King Join Date: May 2000 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Ah...he seemed sincerely offended by the cheesehead remark, that's why I translated it LOL I don't think the word moderator needs to be translated though But if you insist... moderator means something you don't want to mess with hehehe... in short I'd like to suggest PUIKradio Alternative #1 to pick on somebody his own size Other wise there could be trouble....

8th July 2001, 16:18	#39
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	See I thought it was my "what's that mean" comment, cos I couldn't see a link between him being an "elected bollock with a headache" and "cheeseheads". Maybe he thought you said he had a cheesy head, offensive enuff in any language

8th July 2001, 16:20	#40
ampburner Forum King Join Date: May 2000 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Or perhaps ....nah, wouldn't want to start a flamewar now would I hehehe nevermind

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