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[wysiwygbg]

Originally Posted by bloodfiredeath

Well, I formatted Windows 7 because Windows 10 suck so bad and winamp 5.666 is horrible and would not rip my cds so I found and an old version of winamp 5.65 and it rips my cds just fine. I hope that if winamp ever releases any new versions that they will have the ability to rip cds. Too bad lastfm has changed to a horrible new site. I still have winamp.

Given the fact that there are many free software solutions for CD ripping, that are much better than WinAMP, I'm amazed that anyone still uses this PLAYER as a CD ripping tool. Just get Exact Audio Copy and use it, it is probably the best possible CD ripper ever released and is absolutely free.

[themadproducer]

Originally Posted by djpete

these are the things I like in Aimp.
Quality decoder options including Wasapi and Exclusive Mode.
Built in waveform seeker.
Not much more to be honest.
The library shouldn't really be called that because it's a useless as tits on a bull.
Winamp kills it. The end. :-)

Hey djpete,
I don't see the "wavefore seeker" in Aimp that you mention.
I see the thin navigation or seek bar...but not a visual waveform?

[djpete]

i thought that was what it was called.
It shows a waveform in real time and you can click it to seek to different parts of the song

[themadproducer]

Originally Posted by djpete

i thought that was what it was called.
It shows a waveform in real time and you can click it to seek to different parts of the song

That's sounds like what I am looking for...but it does not look like that with my installation today. See this screenshot. (hope I'm not too far off topic here)

[djpete]

it may be your skin. I used default aimp beta version.
It seems to be there but a little different on yours.
Here is a screenshot.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JKdIdHBh-E...0/afw_main.jpg

and it was Aimp 4 Beta avail here
http://www.aimp*****index.php?do=news&id=101

[themadproducer]

Originally Posted by djpete

it may be your skin. I used default aimp beta version.
It seems to be there but a little different on yours.
Here is a screenshot.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JKdIdHBh-E...0/afw_main.jpg

and it was Aimp 4 Beta avail here
http://www.aimp*****index.php?do=news&id=101

Once again, thanks djpete.

[djpete]

cheers

[A11ectis]

Originally Posted by wysiwygbg

Just get Exact Audio Copy and use it, it is probably the best possible CD ripper ever released and is absolutely free.

+∞
Just use it, people. There is just no excuse that I could fathom.

[Aminifu]

Some people don't like EAC because it doesn't have a pretty interface, can take longer to do it's job, and isn't the easiest to setup.

They ignore the fact that it does an excellent job, even on less than pristine CDs.

[HugMePlz]

My first post here! So, how is the progress of Winamp going right now? I started using Winamp in late 2013.

[musicf8]

Originally Posted by HugMePlz

My first post here! So, how is the progress of Winamp going right now? I started using Winamp in late 2013.

you're looking at 2016 for a new version of winamp it seems

[ampshout]

just gave musicbee a try...

It's ok, but its no Winamp.

Here's to Winamp 2016! The Year of the lama!

[SoxmisUK]

Originally Posted by SoxmisUK

Unfortunately, I can't say the same, Upgraded to W10 from W7 64 bit, I installed Winamp 5.666 build 3516 with the 2 latest plugins and it's given me nothing but problems pretty sure they stem from Milkdrop or the playlist..

One message I see:

"Milkdrop Error

Error creating double-sized d3dx title font.."

There is another shorter message about d3dx that pops up about the font but I can't remember it offhand.

When choosing another track from my playlist Milkdrop and the playlist often hang/freeze with Winamp itself freezing up shortly after.. Music continues to play in the background. This could be a plug-in I don't know.

I've tried re-installing, and tried removing a couple of plug-ins like squaresoft's crossfader but the behaviour is the same. Also selecting (Double-clicking..) a new track in the playlist does not highlight the track, but it still plays as a new selection in the player's scrolling title.

I went through Winamps permissions in W10 and gave it full authority to play all music and even switched off Groove music in case that was causing some problem. No effect.

I have no intention of stopping using Winamp. For me, it's a superbly configurable great sounding player with a great visualiser suite.. If anyone else can help I'd like to hear from them..!

Ok I finally got Winamp 5666 running nice and smooth in windows 10 64 bit, seems like my old soundcard (Xonar DG..) was the source of all my problems.. A soon as I swapped it out for a SoundBlaster Z (and it's W10 drivers..) all Winamp's problems just evaporated. The Xonar had drivers that were looking a bit dodgy on install in W10 and their are only drivers for W 8.1. available.

It's good to have Winamp back, tried a LOT of other players to enjoy my music and provide a visualiser as well. Nothing compares. Nothing.

[Sabine Klare]

An artist becomes famous, then the artist needs a break, but after a long break suddenly the artist has a comeback... I want to say, that it is not the end of an aera just because AOL didn't want to have Winamp anymore. Fortunately Radionomy had bought Winamp, we just have to give the development team more time, because many changes have to be done for a new Winamp Version.

It is good to know, that Winamp 5.666 can run also on Windows 10 (and Windows 8 / 8.1). Also the Milkdrop Visualizer should run on these Windows Versions. I myself have only Windows Vista and Windows 7, after also the second one of our both computers with Windows XP from 2004 has died this year.

I have read, that Android 5.0 and Android 5.1 / 5.1.1 are out now. I don't know, if the latest Winamp for Android will work also on these Android Versions, if not, then we all have to be patient, until a newer Winamp for Android will come out. I always have to be patient, also for my private problems.

I remember, I always was very happy, if I discovered in the Facebook Profiles of many friends, that also they themselves had used Winamp. But after 2013 suddenly more and more people had changed the media player. One of them had asked me about the Milkdrop Visualizer very often. Suddenly he began to write bad comments in my postings about Winamp & Milkdrop, also, that he had switched to another media player, because it would be a much better player. Much better? No, nothing is better than Winamp. Fortunately he cannot force me to download and install his new favourite. Nobody can force me to change the media player. The other people can do that, if they want that, I myself don't.

I will remain faithful to him, to my lovely Winamp...

[GorillaCat]

Thought this would be worth a look, mind you it's from 2014.

http://tech.eu/features/771/radionom...winamp-future/

[AndreWinamp]

Hey guys, does it mean something to you...

http://careers.stackoverflow.com/job...Term=Radionomy

'coz that means a lot to me...

[GorillaCat]

I'd like to say this is confirmation of the "it's gonna get here eventually" time line, probably not 2016. But that all depends on how many programmers they had on the project initially.

Thanks Andre, good post.

[DJ-Garybaldy]

Notice they don't give any hint as to what the salary is on the job advert......

[garetjax]

That is a web dev job posting with c++ for integration; approximately 60k -96k

[musicf8]

It's been kind of quiet here for a week, so I thought I would note an "observation". DrO's forum profile doesn't have a image or subtitle anymore. Any reason?

The mystery of Winamp grows... :|

[GorillaCat]

DrO did mention that he was stepping away (from development) a while back and there was a twitter post by radionomy looking for a US community manager, that might even apply to the UK since it's the same language. But these may be completely unrelated.

[JeffreyChao284]

Originally Posted by GorillaCat

I'd like to say this is confirmation of the "it's gonna get here eventually" time line, probably not 2016. But that all depends on how many programmers they had on the project initially.

Thanks Andre, good post.

Well they better do it soon including Android Version, I did some tests to find out that after Android 4.2 and up, Music Stutters often, and there was some note that when I was using the program called "CPU Monitor" it seems the Music Stutters based on lost Buffers and CPU Problems due to Resources being taken away from the New Security App called "Samsung KNOX, unfortunately it uses Hidden Active CPU Usages that most CPU Reader Programs can't read and it results to Android System and System UI using Unnecessary CPU Usages that are taken away from WinAmp thus triggering the Stuttering,

This is the concern since even Android 5.1 has had the same issue as well because KNOX keeps taking too much resources from Music Players unless the CPU Importance Threshold is below 100, more like 80 or 90 would resolve most problems, so in turn it means WinAmp may have to include a CPU and Buffer Settings in the Android App in order to make sure it does not Stutter.

[musicf8]

Originally Posted by JeffreyChao284

<snip>

It sounds like the issue isn't so much Winamp as it is Samsung Knox. Have you tried disabling (or removing if rooted) the app? Have you tried a different music player to see if that issue persists? (like rocketplayer) Finally, is your fone capable of handling everything or is it a low-end samsung?

[musicf8]

Curious about the new (pre-alpha )build now

https://twitter.com/Ed_Rich/status/647874840804917253

[GorillaCat]

I wonder how far along it is.

[DJ Egg]

Hey, I was going to post that

So, as already mentioned, the plan is to make Winamp 100% freeware again,
which means replacing all 3rd-party/aol-licensed code with open source/free alternatives....

So we've started with core features such as:
- mp3 & aac decoders (more details to come later)
- removing ms drm support from in_wm (wow, heh)
- cd ripping
- albumart retrieval
- OpenH264 decoder

Maybe a few other surprises such as a new OpenMPT-based in_mod, and a wasapi output plugin...

I've also got a 5.666->5.8 changelog.txt file already with over 100 lines,
so expect a whole heap of new features, improvements, tweaks, optimizations & fixes....

There's still a load of work to be done though....
e.g. CD burning - and Gracenote replacement (CDDB, Autotag, PlaylistGenerator) being the big one,
and plenty more (further news to follow later).

Alas, it's still some time away before we can provide a public beta build...
but I can assure you all, we're working on it, and it will come eventually :-)

[musicf8]

Awesome, thanks for the update DJ Egg!

[DJ-Garybaldy]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

Hey, I was going to post that

So, as already mentioned, the plan is to make Winamp 100% freeware again,
which means replacing all 3rd-party/aol-licensed code with open source/free alternatives....

So we've started with core features such as:
- mp3 & aac decoders (more details to come later)
- removing ms drm support from in_wm (wow, heh)
- cd ripping
- albumart retrieval
- OpenH264 decoder

Maybe a few other surprises such as a new OpenMPT-based in_mod, and a wasapi output plugin...

I've also got a 5.666->5.8 changelog.txt file already with over 100 lines,
so expect a whole heap of new features, improvements, tweaks, optimizations & fixes....

There's still a load of work to be done though....
e.g. CD burning - and Gracenote (CDDB, Autotag, PlaylistGenerator) replacement being the big one,
and plenty more (further news to follow later).

Alas, it's still some time away before we can provide a public beta build...
but I can assure you all, we're working on it, and it will come eventually :-)

That should hopefully stop the Whinging and whining from a few people.....

Intrigued as to what the new winamp is going to be like. Anything that improves a program has to be good... I can imagine the AOL code was pain to remove.

[kzuse]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

I've also got a 5.666->5.8 changelog.txt file already with over 100 lines,
so expect a whole heap of new features, improvements, tweaks, optimizations & fixes....

I never dared to expect this any more...

Egg, this totally made my day!!! And the next few days, I think. Thank you so much, and also thank you so much to let us know that.

I'm not quite sure about the OpenMPT thing as MikMod is already GNU GPL licensed... but probably the reason is to rewrite it because the old in_mod code as such was difficult to maintain?

Also, would it be possible to make it compatible in a way that people who bought Winamp Pro and thus do still have the enc_mp3 encoders etc. on their hard disk, can continue to use those encoders (if you have to remove them in the official installers)? I really mainly use Winamp to reencode and all those handy things...

I think for AAC and MP3 decoding you will find solutions that are free, there are a few out there, arent they? I hope you will not have to remove SBR support from AAC (HE-AAC)... that would be a huge pity.


Anyway - I'm joyful that you confirmed that work is going on! And 5.8 is a good sounding number ;-)

Keep it up, and thank you so much!

Best regards,
kzuse

[Victhor]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

So, as already mentioned, the plan is to make Winamp 100% freeware again...
I've also got a 5.666->5.8 changelog.txt file already with over 100 lines,

Sound like a continuation over the previous line, not a start-from-scratch (i.e. dropping skins & plugins along with familiar UI, etc), so that sounds sweeeeett!!

[DJ Egg]

@kzuse

The mp3 & aac decoder changes have already been done.
We will still support HE-AAC playback.

I'll provide more details later, but not right now.

Re: in_mod
Yes, it would require us to rewrite in_mod to update to the latest mikmod anyway.
OpenMPT (Modplug) is better maintained and supports even more formats, afaik.
The new plug-in is already mostly done, and works a treat :-)

Re: Pro / encoders
We won't delete lame_enc or enc_fhgaac on upgrades, only on uninstallations.
On clean installs, lame_enc will need to be downloaded separately....


@Victhor

Winamp 5.8 will be a continuation of the 5.x series, so yes, we'll still support plug-ins and skins.
Classic base skin & Modern / Bento skins will still be included.
Yes, we would like to have a new skin to accompany the release... but no work has begun on it yet.
We haven't decided yet, but we might open it up to the community once a beta build is out.... (?)

[trekman]

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

Hey, I was going to post that

So, as already mentioned, the plan is to make Winamp 100% freeware again,
which means replacing all 3rd-party/aol-licensed code with open source/free alternatives....

So we've started with core features such as:
- mp3 & aac decoders (more details to come later)
- removing ms drm support from in_wm (wow, heh)
- cd ripping
- albumart retrieval
- OpenH264 decoder

Maybe a few other surprises such as a new OpenMPT-based in_mod, and a wasapi output plugin...

I've also got a 5.666->5.8 changelog.txt file already with over 100 lines,
so expect a whole heap of new features, improvements, tweaks, optimizations & fixes....

There's still a load of work to be done though....
e.g. CD burning - and Gracenote (CDDB, Autotag, PlaylistGenerator) replacement being the big one,
and plenty more (further news to follow later).

Alas, it's still some time away before we can provide a public beta build...
but I can assure you all, we're working on it, and it will come eventually :-)

Thank You for the update. For many of us that are not techies that dont understand the lingo you guys talk the updates are really welcome. We just love our Winamp and are excited to see and use a new version.

[thinktink]

Are there any private betas for the Beta team members to test?

[DJ Egg]

@thinktink

No, not yet. Hopefully soon...ish...

Currently, there's just a very small Alpha team...

p.s. Always remember the first rule of **** ****

[Benski]

Originally Posted by kzuse

I'm not quite sure about the OpenMPT thing as MikMod is already GNU GPL licensed... but probably the reason is to rewrite it because the old in_mod code as such was difficult to maintain?

GPL can't be used in Winamp, unfortunately, as it requires that the entire program be GPL. LGPL is allowed, however. The copy of MikMod inside in_mod is very very old. When I looked at the open source MikMod project a few years back, it was unusable as they had removed thread safety completely from the library and only one MOD could be played at a time (which made things like transcoding and Alt+3 info impossible).

[djpete]

I still suggest a locked thread with updates just on Winamp progress now that we have an announcement as such.

This is way to important to people to be lost again in the general news area with all these other posts

[musicf8]

Originally Posted by djpete

I still suggest a locked thread with updates just on Winamp progress now that we have an announcement as such.

This is way to important to people to be lost again in the general news area with all these other posts

The only problem is people will then start new threads asking the questions instead. But still I do like having a "Current status of Winamp Development" thread that's locked for only update statuses

[djpete]

It's just that a month down the track this info will be buried like all the other bits and pieces we have had..:-(
I don't want to come here to read that someone loves Winamp. I'd rather have just the facts updated in an orderly fashion..:-)

PS Reminder that the download links need to be updated as the Android ones are dead links now.

[ryerman]

Originally Posted by djpete

I still suggest a locked thread with updates just on Winamp progress now that we have an announcement as such.

I agree.
But it will be next to useless unless it is updated regularly, perhaps monthly at least.

[DJ Egg]

@djpete

Re: Android .apk links
Oops, thought I'd already updated them... I have now. Thanks.

Re: dedicated thread etc
There'll be one once we get a beta build out, but it's probably still a few weeks off yet.
Said thread will include the full changelog :-)