Old 25th January 2019, 06:27   #1
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REQ help to make skin/ui for win10 tablet touchscreen

hello everyone! i am noob here, i need to make a ui/skin for my win10 tablet for when i use it while driving. i have ps skills but i dont know how to translate it to winamp

i plan to make this skin very similar to spirit skin

please help, thanks in advance
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Old 25th January 2019, 07:06   #2
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Here you go!

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Old 25th January 2019, 08:43   #3
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hello everyone! i am noob here, i need to make a ui/skin for my win10 tablet for when i use it while driving.
Am I right to assume that you want the Playlist Editor inside the main window? A SUI (single user-interface) skin such as Victhor's Big Bento Modern, Deimos's 1010 Fullscreen or the Party! mode of Vortex?
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Old 26th January 2019, 10:51   #4
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no lol, ive tried contacting victhor for help but no reply. i've tried his stuff and its too heavy.
what i have in mind is something like mediaplayer classic but in spirit skin
i just need a plain player similar to androids built in music player. heavy ui/fancy skin is too distracting for when operation during driving
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Old 26th January 2019, 10:56   #5
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(old android music player app) i want to make this not only for myself but everyone here, the most important part of being able to customize the skin myself is to get the correct non distracting/glaring colors and schemes for use when in vehicle during night or day
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Old 26th January 2019, 11:20   #6
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... i've tried his stuff and its too heavy...

This is the perfect start for any soon-to-be skinner.
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Old 26th January 2019, 14:48   #7
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@soggynoodles: What are the dimensions of your tablet?

@Ariszló: where do I find the play/pause script?

P.S. The skin is actually ready. Someone may fire up his Photoshop!

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Old 26th January 2019, 15:33   #8
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@Ariszló: where do I find the play/pause script?
The one that requires this line after the Play and Pause button tags:
<script id="play2pause" file="scripts/play2pause.maki"/>
is here.

And pjn123's, which requires this line:
<script file="scripts/sc_PlayPause.maki" param="Play;Pause"/>
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@soggynoodles: What are the dimensions of your tablet?

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The skin is actually ready. Someone may fire up his Photoshop!
@PeterK.: Did you make it scalable in the style of generic windows? If so, adding a maximize button would make it fit any screen resolution. I guess it would require Big Bento's simplemaximize.m.

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Old 26th January 2019, 17:15   #10
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Did you make it scalable in the style of generic windows?

Not yet, for now it is a ("static") FullHD skin.


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If so, adding a maximize button would make it fit any screen resolution.

This is not necessary because I would add a script which would detect the screen's resolution and resize the background accordingly (up to 4K!). Just like in Quinto's "About" window.

Oh wait, if I do so people would complain they cannot resize the skin .... hmmm
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I would add a script which would detect the screen's resolution and resize the background accordingly (up to 4K!). Just like in Quinto's "About" window.
Then it would be a fullscreen-only skin like 1010? That would be cool.

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Oh wait, if I do so people would complain they cannot resize the skin .... hmmm
One cannot please everybody.

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Then it would be a fullscreen-only skin like 1010? That would be cool.
Yes.


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No, one cannot.
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Old 27th January 2019, 12:58   #13
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Question: how do you scroll (through playlist) on a tablet? Our mega tiny scroll thumb will be totally useless on a FullHD tablet.

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Like on a phone: touch the Playlist area lightly with your finger and move your finger up or down.

I believe a button to switch the layout from normal (with PE) to ml (with ML) would make the skin more usable.

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Old 27th January 2019, 14:08   #15
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no lol, ive tried contacting victhor for help but no reply...

I reply e-mails and messages all the time but haven't received anything from you, or you missed some letter or I somehow missed it somehow (it's not on Spam).


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..Like on a phone: touch the Playlist area lightly with your finger and move your finger up or down.

Actually I think here's the first big problem for this skin, as far as I can tell, Playlist doesn't scroll with swipes, I only get moving entries on my Laptop with touchscreen, maybe on a proper tablet this is different?
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Done!

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... maybe on a proper tablet this is different?
Any tablet users in the forum?

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Old 27th January 2019, 15:02   #17
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Done!
Good!

Looks like the right panel of the Media Library when a playlist is selected in the left panel. If so, you could make a much bigger scrollbar.

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Actually I think here's the first big problem for this skin, as far as I can tell, Playlist doesn't scroll with swipes, I only get moving entries on my Laptop with touchscreen, maybe on a proper tablet this is different?
I thought it did because it does with the middle button of a mouse. Nevertheless, PeterK.'s trick of using the right panel of the ML for the Playlist Editor makes it possible to make a bigger scrollbar.

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Old 28th January 2019, 02:43   #19
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sorry for late reply guys, i was out during the weekend
@PeterK. 1080 display. the device is a dell venue 11 pro

@Victhor i contacted you via my shitposting dA. it might have flagged as spam

from my point of view, it doesnt need to be fancy with all the functions such as eq. it just needs to be simple bar and play list almost like my mspaint depiction because its for when operating a vehicle and you just want to play an albums worth on average (how long do you sit in your vehicle?) and super light. just a reskin and button placement/button size for knobby fingers. at least touch friendly first then look at other functions later
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i am available @SOGGYnoodles#1171 in discord for faster reply
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Old 28th January 2019, 03:18   #21
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i think of this project as a collab of all of us here at winamp forums because i believe this initiative 'simple and light' touch ui/skin will propel winamp player into the modern players with more windows portable devices with touchscreen become affordable and people want a lightweight yet super capable player without all the clutter minimal interface setting a benchmark for modern devices to progress into the future
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Old 28th January 2019, 05:54   #22
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i think of this project as a collab of all of us here
Collab in what sense? The idea has been around for a while. As for the actual skin, only PeterK. has worked on it so far. He did all the graphics and coding. What did the rest of us do?

It might become a collab if PeterK. shares what he has done so far and invite us to contribute but so far it is not, imho.

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It might become a collab if PeterK. shares what he has done so far and invite us to contribute but so far it is not, imho.

Several days ago NOBODY MOVED A FINGER in order to create a new tablet skin and now I am the selfish bad guy who does not want to share? And you need invitation? Why did you delete it Ariszó? If there is such a demand, why did you never start such a community project?

O.K. Here you go! The stage is yours.

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and now I am the selfish bad guy who does not want to share?
No, PeterK., I did not call you a bad guy. I only wanted to express that one can only call a project a collab if at least two people are working on it.

Who did what?
  • SoggyNoodles requested a skin but has not worked on it. If he had come up with an original idea then he would have deserved credit for it but the idea itself is not original. He just repeated an old request. But I may be wrong here. He could successfully repeat an old request at the right moment when an able skinner heard it. If so then I am wrong and he deserves credit as project initiator.
  • I tried to understand exactly what kind of a skin he meant but I have not worked on the skin so I deserve no credit.
  • You did the graphics and wrote the xmls and maki scripts.
So the only person who can claim credit for the skin is you.
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And you need invitation?
If you start working on something then it is up to you to decide whether you want to finish it alone or involve other people, too.
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Why did you delete it Ariszó?
I did not delete anything. I cannot see the screenshots that you posted starting with comment #7 but I did not delete them.

Please, finish the skin and publish it. I am sure that tablet users would be thankful for it.

I apologize to both PeterK. and SoggyNoodles if my previous post was offensive. And also for this post if it is.

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Several days ago NOBODY MOVED A FINGER in order to create a new tablet skin and now I am the selfish bad guy who does not want to share? And you need invitation? Why did you delete it Ariszó? If there is such a demand, why did you never start such a community project?

O.K. Here you go! The stage is yours.

How easily you misinterpret things.. He was defending you actually, I got that right from the very first line of text. Too much sensitivity here, and also from ariszló, soggynoodles isn't taking credit for anything, he's just proposing to work as a collab, with some people throwing ideas and some executing. The way I see it, it was steadily headed to be a 2-man skin, Peterk in coding and soggynoodles in graphics.

Also, remarking "several days ago" when the thread is 3 days old is an exaggeration, this forum has seen requests sleep for weeks before someone answered.


@soggynoodles now that I double - checked I can see your DeviantArt note.. I don't know how to say this but
I didn't take it seriously because of your profiles uploads, I thought it was some kinda of joke hah. If I was to do the job (which I'm not, specially due to time restrictions), would be nice to see what are your graphic skills, a Winamp skin takes too much time to make for it to end up being done poorly from the gfx side of things (at least that's how I see it, but I may be too obsessive with the aesthetics for being a designer..)
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i stated above in the first post, i only have ps skills. i can make the skin if i had a template in a few minutes. i think we all contributed in some way or another aside from the bickering.
the most important part of this initiative is to get a working touch friendly, minimalistic ui/skin modern devices users prefer for apps. lets work on the first minimalistic touch friendly together before forking out for individual credits.
i have posted my discord id above, for anyone to feed me the template and i'll start processing it. at the end of the day, its going to beneficial to everyone
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bah, strike me out from the credits. i just want to contribute as my skill allows back to winamp
to at least make it comfortable for modern device interface.
i'm willing to learn if someone spoon feeds me because from reading the tutorials, it seems i have to relearn every single thing from the first winamp because it kinda links to each update version just for one skin. which is really a shitload to read and learn
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TBH I always had a plan of my own to add a "mode" with a something like this, but it was recursively left out, first from Komodo (on one of the "official" threads there's even a sketch done by a user asking for that layout) and then from Big Bento Modern. I'll add it at some point for sure (and my idea always was to make it as "standalone" as possible, so other skinners could re-use the code as needed).
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bah, strike me out from the credits.
When I saw the screenshot in this post (no longer there), it looked like a finished skin so I did not understand what collab you were speaking about. The skin was finished and nobody else had worked on it but PeterK.

Rereading your posts, now I see that you requested what you call a template to which you would add your own graphics. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Well.. suddenly this thread has been too quiet.. just to be cristal clear, I'm not available to do this skin for the time being, and for at least a couple of months more I guess.


So PeterK, if you want to go ahead, be my guest.
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PeterK., don't let your work wasted. Please, come back to the forum and help soggynoodles.

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the key towards touch ui is symmetry. it gives you the sense even though you are not looking
it would be like you know where the arrow keys are by heart and able to operate it with eyes closed
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whoa; and I thought I get touchy.
PeterK - your all good; let me see what you got... ;D
ariszlo - no worries m8.
soggynoodles - ??? Komodo is probably one of the best skins for this kind of behavior and imho with a few tweaks could be exactly what your after.
victhor - ever the diplomat. you cheeky bastard.

I may know a thing or two about painting the picture shop; I may be able to dress up a template for winamp if'n ya need me to. Though, I generally suck at gfx, skinning and etc.

OC there is a WMC thing that could be adapted for a simplistic touch interface as well...just got to get my hands on the code for it...

anyway...peace yall.

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PeterK., I am glad to see you are still active. Congrats for the new release.

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