Mr Jones...

drake · 26th February 2002, 23:59

Ok is it just me or did Mr Jones just go a little power crazy. I saw one post where he/she said to close a topic to Rocker and then he/she wanted to "toast" a user and closed the topic.

Now normally this wouldn't be that bad but in the SAME DAY!

I would like to see if this post is closed and if I recieved a warning or something in the email. Sorry but I am against forceful use of moderatoring powers.

Ice · 27th February 2002, 00:23

everyone has off days. and sometimes, there is a backstory to this. you know that.

CraigF · 27th February 2002, 00:35

since you didnt provide any links/details or background on this, i cant comment.

QHOBBES · 27th February 2002, 02:02

I was down at the New Amsterdam staring at this yellow-haired girl
Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation with this black-haired flamingo dancer
She dances while his father plays guitar
She’s suddenly beautiful
We all want something beautiful
I wish I was beautiful

So come dance this silence down through the morning
Cut up, Maria! Show me some of them Spanish dances
Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones
Believe in me
Help me believe in anything
I want to be someone who believes

Mr. Jones and me tell each other fairy tales
Stare at the beautiful women
“She’s looking at you. Ah, no, no, she’s looking at me.”
Smiling at the bright lights
Coming through in stereo
When everybody loves you, you can never be lonely

I will paint my picture
Paint myself in blue and red and black and gray
All of the beautiful colors are very very meaningful
Gray is my favorite color
I felt so symbolic yesterday
If I knew Picasso
I would buy myself a gray guitar and play

Mr. Jones and me look into the future
Stare at the beautiful women
“She’s looking at you.
Uh, I don’t think so. She’s looking at me.”
Standing in the spotlight
I bought myself a gray guitar
When everybody loves me, I will never be lonely

I want to be a lion
Everybody wants to pass as cats
We all want to be big big stars, but we got different reasons for that
Believe in me because I don’t believe in anything and I want to be someone to believe

Mr. Jones and me stumbling through the barrio
Yeah we stare at the beautiful women
“She’s perfect for you, Man, there’s got to be somebody for me.”
I want to be Bob Dylan
Mr. Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky
When everybody loves you, son, that’s just about as funky as you can be

Mr. Jones and me staring at the video
When I look at the television, I want to see me staring right back at me
We all want to be big stars, but we don’t know why and we don’t know how
But when everybody loves me, I’m going to be just about as happy as can be
Mr. Jones and me, we’re gonna be big stars...

drake · 27th February 2002, 02:36

Ya I guess I see your point Ice. I have been like that in TFC servers where I have admin access.

Mr Jones · 27th February 2002, 07:56

blaugh · 27th February 2002, 15:47

Quote:

Originally posted by drake
Sorry but I am against forceful use of moderatoring powers.

i think the word you're lookin for is "moderating"

drake · 27th February 2002, 19:56

Thanks for fixing my typo blaugh.

Well as far as them not having relevance I don't believe that is true. He made a joke about Winamp3. Like the toast joke... So are we not allowed to have humor in these forums Jones?

I do agree there are a lot of useless and pointless posts but I don't believe that that was one of them. I would really appreciate it if you suck it up like a man and instead of bitching about this further just take it as constructive criticism of the way you moderate and that you be a little more careful in the future.

Gonzotek · 27th February 2002, 21:34

Quote:

Originally posted by drake
Thanks for fixing my typo blaugh.

Well as far as them not having relevance I don't believe that is true. He made a joke about Winamp3. Like the toast joke... So are we not allowed to have humor in these forums Jones?

This forum is for discussion about Winamp3. These are the most "moderated" of the forums, and, honestly, with good reason. Look at how bad the Shoutcast forums were for long, long time. Those two threads were devoid of value. It's one thing to add a piece of humor to an ongoing discussion, but both of those posts did nothing at all for Winamp. Maybe they should have been moved to GD, but I'm not going to argue with that decision. Let the thread starters argue for their threads.

Quote:

I do agree there are a lot of useless and pointless posts but I don't believe that that was one of them. I would really appreciate it if you suck it up like a man and instead of bitching about this further just take it as constructive criticism of the way you moderate and that you be a little more careful in the future.

Well, he didn't bitch about it. You did. In full public view. I find that comment rather nasty. And he offered you the opportunity to further discuss it with him in PM. Which is where it should have started.

I'd like to suggest that this thread be locked or at least moved, as it also has no relevence to Winamp3. Let it live in General Discussion, if it must.

-=Gonzotek=-

drake · 27th February 2002, 21:56

Well I never said he did bitch about it. I said I would appreciate it if he didn't. By that I meant in the future. Which so far he hasn't and I thank him for that. Instead you did it for him Gonzo.

CraigF · 27th February 2002, 22:30

i dont think you understand the reprocussions.

there has since been conversation backstage about heavy handed tactics in use on these forums.

I have been quoted before as saying that these forums are indeed the most "moderated". Look at it as unofficial rules.

Everybody sees no problem with locking n00b threads that are completely offtopic, and frankly, non-n00bs should know better.

Its not a personal attack against people, its just the rules laid out in these forums (wa3).

We need to keep things on-topic here, otherwise we just get inundated very quickly.

And, as has been pointed out. There is GD for ANY topic you feel you need to speak about.

Ice · 27th February 2002, 23:31

then if its offtopic, not pertaining to winamp 3, move it. yes, there is a move feature that redirects to the new copy.

the forums are meant to be a fun place. you'll never get that if you want to put a vice grip on everything. let things slide.

enzi · 7th March 2002, 09:59

P'raps there wouldn't be so many pointless threads if people weren't "ranked" by the number of posts that they have made.

But then again, I'm not complaining, doesn't bother me...

Naamloos · 7th March 2002, 13:59

Quote:

Originally posted by enzi
P'raps there wouldn't be so many pointless threads if people weren't "ranked" by the number of posts that they have made.

But then again, I'm not complaining, doesn't bother me...

For most n00bs (and postpumpers) postcount does matters, but for non-noobs they don't. I did care a bit about my postcount until I reached 100 or so. But then again, I don't think an user with 4593 (just a random number) is better than an user with 1 post.

drake · 7th March 2002, 22:09

A better system (definitely not perfect) than checking posts, is checking the registration date. This tells you more of who is and isn't a post pumper.

This will help but you have to consider the fact time here and in this forum doesn't judge how smart you are or how much you know about winamp. A lot of people will make their first post even though they have used Winamp since the 1.x

So what have we learned? Just read the posts the person and then decide who is the newb and who is the genious

Naamloos · 8th March 2002, 06:00

Maybe if he have made a bug report somelong time ago, and then decided to come back

kingo'mountain · 8th March 2002, 06:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Naamloos

For most n00bs (and postpumpers) postcount does matters, but for non-noobs they don't. I did care a bit about my postcount until I reached 100 or so. But then again, I don't think an user with 4593 (just a random number) is better than an user with 1 post.

well said!!!!!!!!

Naamloos · 8th March 2002, 11:38

Quote:

Originally posted by kingo'mountain

well said!!!!!!!!

Postpumper

j/k, thanks for the comment

Rocker · 8th March 2002, 12:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Naamloos
Maybe if he have made a bug report somelong time ago, and then decided to come back

what if its a bug thats reported multiple times....and all reports are on the same page?

some newbies are dumb....you can't not say thats the truth

some non newbies are dumb...can't say thats the truth

their is only minor descrimination in these forums against newbies..perticularly the dumb ones(if your not stupid...then your safe).

if a mod/forum king posted BETA 3 BUILD 466 right now....the thread would be closed as soon as I saw it.

everyone was a noob once...this is how it should be...telling the newbies whats wrong or right is the job for senior members.

this usually churns out better members in the long run...who know what their talking about.

Naamloos · 8th March 2002, 19:18

I've once been told on my first skin : You suck and other comments like : Woah a baby can do that in 5 min...

I nearly left the forums again...

but I didnt

26th February 2002, 23:59	#1
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	Mr Jones... Ok is it just me or did Mr Jones just go a little power crazy. I saw one post where he/she said to close a topic to Rocker and then he/she wanted to "toast" a user and closed the topic. Now normally this wouldn't be that bad but in the SAME DAY! I would like to see if this post is closed and if I recieved a warning or something in the email. Sorry but I am against forceful use of moderatoring powers. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

27th February 2002, 00:23	#2
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,303	everyone has off days. and sometimes, there is a backstory to this. you know that. I'd like to meet a mad man who makes it all seem sane To work out all these troubles and what there is to gain

27th February 2002, 02:36	#5
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	Ya I guess I see your point Ice. I have been like that in TFC servers where I have admin access. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

27th February 2002, 19:56	#8
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	Thanks for fixing my typo blaugh. Well as far as them not having relevance I don't believe that is true. He made a joke about Winamp3. Like the toast joke... So are we not allowed to have humor in these forums Jones? I do agree there are a lot of useless and pointless posts but I don't believe that that was one of them. I would really appreciate it if you suck it up like a man and instead of bitching about this further just take it as constructive criticism of the way you moderate and that you be a little more careful in the future. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

27th February 2002, 21:56	#10
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	Well I never said he did bitch about it. I said I would appreciate it if he didn't. By that I meant in the future. Which so far he hasn't and I thank him for that. Instead you did it for him Gonzo. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

27th February 2002, 00:35	#3
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	since you didnt provide any links/details or background on this, i cant comment.

27th February 2002, 02:02	#4
QHOBBES Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I H8 Mods Posts: 1,405	I was down at the New Amsterdam staring at this yellow-haired girl Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation with this black-haired flamingo dancer She dances while his father plays guitar She’s suddenly beautiful We all want something beautiful I wish I was beautiful So come dance this silence down through the morning Cut up, Maria! Show me some of them Spanish dances Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones Believe in me Help me believe in anything I want to be someone who believes Mr. Jones and me tell each other fairy tales Stare at the beautiful women “She’s looking at you. Ah, no, no, she’s looking at me.” Smiling at the bright lights Coming through in stereo When everybody loves you, you can never be lonely I will paint my picture Paint myself in blue and red and black and gray All of the beautiful colors are very very meaningful Gray is my favorite color I felt so symbolic yesterday If I knew Picasso I would buy myself a gray guitar and play Mr. Jones and me look into the future Stare at the beautiful women “She’s looking at you. Uh, I don’t think so. She’s looking at me.” Standing in the spotlight I bought myself a gray guitar When everybody loves me, I will never be lonely I want to be a lion Everybody wants to pass as cats We all want to be big big stars, but we got different reasons for that Believe in me because I don’t believe in anything and I want to be someone to believe Mr. Jones and me stumbling through the barrio Yeah we stare at the beautiful women “She’s perfect for you, Man, there’s got to be somebody for me.” I want to be Bob Dylan Mr. Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky When everybody loves you, son, that’s just about as funky as you can be Mr. Jones and me staring at the video When I look at the television, I want to see me staring right back at me We all want to be big stars, but we don’t know why and we don’t know how But when everybody loves me, I’m going to be just about as happy as can be Mr. Jones and me, we’re gonna be big stars...

27th February 2002, 07:56	#6
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	Your point being? Two pointless thread that had nothing at all to do with WA3 and everything to do with utter crap got wacked? Please, open your eyes, read around this forum, the whole frikiking place is littered with locked pointless threads, a few examples to follow.... http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75815 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75617 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75600 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74868 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74869 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74800 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=74242 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75815 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75828 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=75849 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76270 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76246 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76547 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76838 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=76995 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=77143 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....threadid=77408 And those are the only ones I could be bothered to open, sorry if I offended you in some way by locking that first thread and suggesting that the second one also be locked, but hey I don't see any complaints about the rest of the crap around here getting locked. if you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to use the PM button.

27th February 2002, 22:30	#11
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	i dont think you understand the reprocussions. there has since been conversation backstage about heavy handed tactics in use on these forums. I have been quoted before as saying that these forums are indeed the most "moderated". Look at it as unofficial rules. Everybody sees no problem with locking n00b threads that are completely offtopic, and frankly, non-n00bs should know better. Its not a personal attack against people, its just the rules laid out in these forums (wa3). We need to keep things on-topic here, otherwise we just get inundated very quickly. And, as has been pointed out. There is GD for ANY topic you feel you need to speak about.

27th February 2002, 23:31	#12
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,303	then if its offtopic, not pertaining to winamp 3, move it. yes, there is a move feature that redirects to the new copy. the forums are meant to be a fun place. you'll never get that if you want to put a vice grip on everything. let things slide. I'd like to meet a mad man who makes it all seem sane To work out all these troubles and what there is to gain

7th March 2002, 09:59	#13
enzi Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10	Just maybe. P'raps there wouldn't be so many pointless threads if people weren't "ranked" by the number of posts that they have made. But then again, I'm not complaining, doesn't bother me...

7th March 2002, 22:09	#15
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	A better system (definitely not perfect) than checking posts, is checking the registration date. This tells you more of who is and isn't a post pumper. This will help but you have to consider the fact time here and in this forum doesn't judge how smart you are or how much you know about winamp. A lot of people will make their first post even though they have used Winamp since the 1.x So what have we learned? Just read the posts the person and then decide who is the newb and who is the genious Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

8th March 2002, 06:00	#16
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	Maybe if he have made a bug report somelong time ago, and then decided to come back

8th March 2002, 19:18	#20
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	I've once been told on my first skin : You suck and other comments like : Woah a baby can do that in 5 min... I nearly left the forums again... but I didnt

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