GeForce4

liquidmotion · 18th June 2002, 19:37

alrighty then:

i just bought a geforce4 mx420 (nice name eh?

). it seems to be causing horrible crashes on my windows xp system, even with the newest driver updates.

has anyone else had problems with this? and if so, how did you solve it?

vizo · 18th June 2002, 20:01

why the hell did you buy a gf4 mx? those are the crappiest cards ever. they are equal to, if not worse than the gf2 mx. gf4mxs are not gaming cards ( not sure what you will be using it for ). i suggest you take it back and get a gf2/3 ti. or a gf4 ti if you have the money.

liquidmotion · 18th June 2002, 20:20

actually, they have been clocked faster than gf2. i bought it so i could watch lord of the rings dvd screener (theoretically, if i had it) on my tv thru the tv-out. i don't play many games, but i'm sure it is better than my onboard vga card

help!

desolation · 18th June 2002, 20:35

I have the same card running under xp... acutally I find it not to be that bad of a gaming card. Not as good as my friend's gf4ti obviously, but its alright for me. I had crashing problems at frist too, but I got the windows updates (hadn't done that at all yet), upgraded direct x, and grabbed the newest 2000/xp drivers from nvidia's site and now its stable as a rock. Hopeyou get it working!

dylman · 18th June 2002, 20:47

Do you get a total system lockup, followed by a reboot? If so, does XP pop up an error message mentioning an infinite loop error?

Read this excellent article and have a look at this forum.

Search on any other tech forum for "Infinite loop" - this is a very common problem (if that's what this is) that plagues many people

The infinite loop error has no one cause, and no one solution, so no-one can give you a specific cure. My system (Compaq, 512Mb, Geforce3 Ti200) suffers from this problem terribly, but only when running 3D apps. I cannot play games for more than a few minutes without a complete lockup. The only thing I can do is reduce my memory to 128MB, this completely solves the problem, but games and XP run horribly with this amount of RAM.

Also look at Device Manager to check for any IRQ conflicts, ie make sure your Sound card, graphics card, modem, etc aren't sharing the same IRQ. This could be a cause.

apollos · 18th June 2002, 20:48

Id love a Geforce 4 ti but i just got ripped off £85 for Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB

I love the wolferman background from nvidia.com downloads. Its currently my background

Matt · 18th June 2002, 20:56

The infinite loop thing is a problem.. High time it was fixed.

That card is ok, (for games also). Better than any geforce 2 but not the geforce 3 ti's.

Nofx Guy · 18th June 2002, 23:13

i love my g4 ti...its my baby..

g3cko · 19th June 2002, 02:45

i had similar problems with my xp.. it didn't show up right away but soon it was crashin every bootup and then crashin like 48 times in a row.. there has been ?? 2 ?? patches on windoze update for this i believe.. i guess it just keeps comin back or somethin like a bad supper that comes back for lunch every day all week or somethin.

Atmo · 19th June 2002, 02:48

Quote:

Originally posted by vizo
why the hell did you buy a gf4 mx? those are the crappiest cards ever. they are equal to, if not worse than the gf2 mx. gf4mxs are not gaming cards ( not sure what you will be using it for ). i suggest you take it back and get a gf2/3 ti. or a gf4 ti if you have the money.

Errr...Wrong...

The geforce4mx is much faster than a gf2ti, and in some cases faster than a gf3ti200. Granted, theyre not quite as good as a gf3ti500 and not up to par with a gf4ti but for performance for dollar theyre hard to beat.

g3cko · 19th June 2002, 02:53

gf4mx's aren't that bad. nofx guy had one in his box for a few weeks while he waited for his ti4400 to come in... the picture quality was a lot better than previous nvidia cards, and the colors in quake3 just seemed really intense (maybe it was the custom maps we were lanning)

Nofx Guy · 19th June 2002, 03:28

Quote:

Originally posted by g3cko
gf4mx's aren't that bad. nofx guy had one in his box for a few weeks while he waited for his ti4400 to come in... the picture quality was a lot better than previous nvidia cards, and the colors in quake3 just seemed really intense (maybe it was the custom maps we were lanning)

i agree the gf4 mx cards are shweet for there price...sure its kinda lame advertising callin there g4 cards when there basically gf2 upgraded tech cards...but hey they are cool...

yeah i had an evga gf mx440 in my box and it was good..really nice actually....
with a MSI gf4 mx460 you can easily get over 8000+ 3dmarks on a XP1900+ chip...and if im right that is a higher mark than some gf 3 ti500 cards ..

so dont go dissin the cards till you actually try them....

liquidmotion · 19th June 2002, 18:16

now windows detects it but says "device cannot be started".

would a tv-tuner work just as well for watching movies on my tv?

rm' · 19th June 2002, 18:31

A TV would work best.

dam · 19th June 2002, 19:50

Im going to wait for the next nVidia card.

The Gerforce titles been scrapped.The nv25(or whatever its called) will have a 3d fx core.

eleet-2k2 · 19th June 2002, 20:06

I think I'll just get a new processor for my nice vid card.

desolation · 19th June 2002, 20:18

/me misses 3dfx greatly and wishes there were good xp drivers for the voodoo 5 5500 sitting on my self

c2R · 20th June 2002, 00:53

Quote:

Originally posted by dam
Im going to wait for the next nVidia card.

The Gerforce titles been scrapped.The nv25(or whatever its called) will have a 3d fx core.

A new 3dfx card?! I was going to get a gf4-TI, but having heard that... any news on a release date/further information?

I've had my TNT2-PCI and Orchid Righteous 3D combo for long enough!

rm' · 20th June 2002, 01:36

Quote:

Originally posted by c2R
Orchid Righteous 3D

What a fifi name for computer hardware... next thing you know, they'll come out with the Epoustouflant Sound System, or Carnation Emotionizer

Nofx Guy · 20th June 2002, 01:45

Quote:

Originally posted by c2R

A new 3dfx card?! I was going to get a gf4-TI, but having heard that... any news on a release date/further information?

I've had my TNT2-PCI and Orchid Righteous 3D combo for long enough!

not a new 3dfx card..but rather a new nvidia card built on 3dfx tech.. considering they bought them out...it should be released in fall...

liquidmotion · 20th June 2002, 04:25

Quote:

Originally posted by rm'
A TV would work best.

i traded it in for a new philips dvd player that does vcds, svcds, mp3 discs, etc, so i have no need for the tv-out

thx rm!

desolation · 20th June 2002, 14:14

Quote:

Originally posted by Nofx Guy

not a new 3dfx card..but rather a new nvidia card built on 3dfx tech.. considering they bought them out...it should be released in fall...

Heh, this is why I only spent $100 to get a gf4mx instead of dishing more out for a ti, and then buying again this fall.

rm' · 20th June 2002, 17:13

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmotion

i traded it in for a new philips dvd player that does vcds, svcds, mp3 discs, etc, so i have no need for the tv-out

thx rm!

The simplest solution is usually the best one

eleet-2k2 · 20th June 2002, 18:12

If I had the money, I'd obtain the GeForce 4 Ti4600.

The heatsink on that beast is massively huge!

Nofx Guy · 20th June 2002, 19:45

Quote:

Originally posted by 31337-2k2
If I had the money, I'd obtain the GeForce 4 Ti4600. The heatsink on that beast is massively huge!

same heatsinks as the 4400's .. from most companies

fwgx · 20th June 2002, 20:08

What's a good budget gaming card then? As in under £100 (~$150)

How do the ATI Radeons compare to the GF4's or would a KryoII do the job?

liquidmotion · 21st June 2002, 06:18

i think the g4mx is a good budget card, stay away from MSI tho.

Nofx Guy · 21st June 2002, 06:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Phily Baby
What's a good budget gaming card then? As in under £100 (~$150)

How do the ATI Radeons compare to the GF4's or would a KryoII do the job?

well the radeon 8500's are the best card under the gf4 ti's..if you can stand the drivers then they are the way to go..and there uber cheap...stay away from kyro though..not good gaming cards..

Quote:

i think the g4mx is a good budget card, stay away from MSI tho.

i agree the gf4mx are good budget cards but i disagree with your comment about MSI cards..they make great cards! i have there gf4 ti4400 and it is rock solid and great for overclocking... ive tired there gf4 mx460 and that they rocked...it got a 3dmark score of 8000+ with an xp1900+ chip not oc'd....thats a better score than a gf3 card...

MSI makes great cards..and they are cheaper than other brands..

18th June 2002, 19:37	#1
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	GeForce4 alrighty then: i just bought a geforce4 mx420 (nice name eh? ). it seems to be causing horrible crashes on my windows xp system, even with the newest driver updates. has anyone else had problems with this? and if so, how did you solve it? For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

18th June 2002, 20:20	#3
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	actually, they have been clocked faster than gf2. i bought it so i could watch lord of the rings dvd screener (theoretically, if i had it) on my tv thru the tv-out. i don't play many games, but i'm sure it is better than my onboard vga card help! For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

18th June 2002, 20:47	#5
dylman Forum King Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawarden Posts: 2,115	Do you get a total system lockup, followed by a reboot? If so, does XP pop up an error message mentioning an infinite loop error? Read this excellent article and have a look at this forum. Search on any other tech forum for "Infinite loop" - this is a very common problem (if that's what this is) that plagues many people The infinite loop error has no one cause, and no one solution, so no-one can give you a specific cure. My system (Compaq, 512Mb, Geforce3 Ti200) suffers from this problem terribly, but only when running 3D apps. I cannot play games for more than a few minutes without a complete lockup. The only thing I can do is reduce my memory to 128MB, this completely solves the problem, but games and XP run horribly with this amount of RAM. Also look at Device Manager to check for any IRQ conflicts, ie make sure your Sound card, graphics card, modem, etc aren't sharing the same IRQ. This could be a cause. There's no need to tell me when I'm right; I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty

18th June 2002, 23:13	#8
Nofx Guy Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: under a rock Posts: 998	i love my g4 ti...its my baby.. www.audioflo.ath.cx All music, All the Time

19th June 2002, 18:16	#13
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	now windows detects it but says "device cannot be started". would a tv-tuner work just as well for watching movies on my tv? For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

18th June 2002, 20:01	#2
vizo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 167	why the hell did you buy a gf4 mx? those are the crappiest cards ever. they are equal to, if not worse than the gf2 mx. gf4mxs are not gaming cards ( not sure what you will be using it for ). i suggest you take it back and get a gf2/3 ti. or a gf4 ti if you have the money.

18th June 2002, 20:35	#4
desolation Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Paducah, Ky Posts: 42	I have the same card running under xp... acutally I find it not to be that bad of a gaming card. Not as good as my friend's gf4ti obviously, but its alright for me. I had crashing problems at frist too, but I got the windows updates (hadn't done that at all yet), upgraded direct x, and grabbed the newest 2000/xp drivers from nvidia's site and now its stable as a rock. Hopeyou get it working!

18th June 2002, 20:48	#6
apollos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canterbury & Plymouth Posts: 4,176	Id love a Geforce 4 ti but i just got ripped off £85 for Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB I love the wolferman background from nvidia.com downloads. Its currently my background

18th June 2002, 20:56	#7
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,396	The infinite loop thing is a problem.. High time it was fixed. That card is ok, (for games also). Better than any geforce 2 but not the geforce 3 ti's.

19th June 2002, 02:45	#9
g3cko Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My House Posts: 54	i had similar problems with my xp.. it didn't show up right away but soon it was crashin every bootup and then crashin like 48 times in a row.. there has been ?? 2 ?? patches on windoze update for this i believe.. i guess it just keeps comin back or somethin like a bad supper that comes back for lunch every day all week or somethin.

19th June 2002, 02:53	#11
g3cko Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My House Posts: 54	gf4mx's aren't that bad. nofx guy had one in his box for a few weeks while he waited for his ti4400 to come in... the picture quality was a lot better than previous nvidia cards, and the colors in quake3 just seemed really intense (maybe it was the custom maps we were lanning)

19th June 2002, 18:31	#14
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	A TV would work best.

19th June 2002, 19:50	#15
dam Forum King Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The foot of the bed Posts: 2,536	Im going to wait for the next nVidia card. The Gerforce titles been scrapped.The nv25(or whatever its called) will have a 3d fx core. http://dam.deviantart.com/

19th June 2002, 20:06	#16
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	I think I'll just get a new processor for my nice vid card. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

19th June 2002, 20:18	#17
desolation Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Paducah, Ky Posts: 42	/me misses 3dfx greatly and wishes there were good xp drivers for the voodoo 5 5500 sitting on my self

20th June 2002, 18:12	#24
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	If I had the money, I'd obtain the GeForce 4 Ti4600. The heatsink on that beast is massively huge! "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

20th June 2002, 20:08	#26
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	What's a good budget gaming card then? As in under £100 (~$150) How do the ATI Radeons compare to the GF4's or would a KryoII do the job? "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

21st June 2002, 06:18	#27
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	i think the g4mx is a good budget card, stay away from MSI tho. For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

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