winamp, cash cows and thompson

Windude · 28th August 2002, 11:23

I am back at the Forums after being away for a little while no doubt none of you missed me, anyhow i bring news from my travels:

Freeware MP3 decoder proggies shall be charged 75cents per copy.
that includes winamp, sonique, musicmatch or anything else that may be freeware and decode mp3's.

so will AOL stuff up the cash for winamp to remain free or will we have to "buy" it.....

Schismx · 28th August 2002, 11:28

Use Ogg. MP3 is dead.

Bilbo Baggins · 28th August 2002, 11:28

I would pay for it.

Cheezychops · 28th August 2002, 11:30

i would get bilbo's warez copy

. - .... .- -. .... · 28th August 2002, 11:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
I would pay for it.

I hope I never have to pay for it....

Twilightseer · 28th August 2002, 11:56

I wouldn't pay. Which doesn't mean I'd stop using it

Schismx · 28th August 2002, 11:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilightseer
I wouldn't pay. Which doesn't mean I'd stop using it

Aren't you a moderator?

Vie · 28th August 2002, 12:28

yes but that never stoped them from "Borowing" a copy

liquidmotion · 28th August 2002, 17:36

this is just another plot by The Man to takeover the internet music community.

even those of us who do not download mp3s, but, rather rip them from our own cds for use on our computers will be affected negatively by this turn of events.

stupid ogg, thinks it's so cool when it's not.

binary hero · 28th August 2002, 20:37

sorry to break it to you liquid, but with higher sound quality at lower bitrates, and, on average, lower filesizes for the same quality...vorbis is pretty cool.

i won't be paying or cracking, i'll be using vorbis only version.

Shenlong · 28th August 2002, 20:43

Just because I have to pay for a newer version doesn't mean I can't stop using the free and older version.

s1138 · 28th August 2002, 21:31

[moderator s1138] sure id pay...though mods should get a free copy

[/moderator s1138]

[s1138] pay..pff..i didnt pay when it was shareware before...[/s1138]

liquidmotion · 29th August 2002, 00:21

Quote:

Originally posted by binary hero
sorry to break it to you liquid, but with higher sound quality at lower bitrates, and, on average, lower filesizes for the same quality...vorbis is pretty cool.

i won't be paying or cracking, i'll be using vorbis only version.

i just don't want to have to convert all of my mp3's to ogg format. unless there is some program that will convert them all, keeping filename and directory structure..

/me investigates or decides to write his own

Rocky Raccoon · 29th August 2002, 01:54

I wouldn't pay... I actually own the original CDs of 99% of the music I have in my computer (except a few Yoko Ono tracks that are almost impossible to find in it's original version where I live), and I don't think I should pay to extract them to my computer... besides, there's OGG, and I've already started re-ripping my CDs to that format... better quality, smaller files, free... what else can you ask for?

[edit]oh, it said "decode", not "encode"... :P still, I wouldn't pay[/edit]

Curi0us_George · 29th August 2002, 03:25

No. There will always be free alternatives, legal or not.

Namelessv1 · 29th August 2002, 03:41

Quote:

No. There will always be free alternatives, legal or not.

I agree. There'll just be newer and better ways for digital music, and the government is too slow to stop the progress.

mmitchell86 · 29th August 2002, 03:48

This is why i keep a copy of 2.81

Michael

Sandman2012 · 29th August 2002, 05:17

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmotion

i just don't want to have to convert all of my mp3's to ogg format. unless there is some program that will convert them all, keeping filename and directory structure..

/me investigates or decides to write his own

You can drag and drop .mp3s into CDex and it will convert them to ogg, but directory structure may be a problem, depending on how you have your .mp3s organized. I've never dropped a folder into the prog.

Lapikas · 29th August 2002, 07:24

No! Please don't convert your mp3's to ogg. It just lowers the quality..

I would use ogg but encoding takes 4 times longer than mp3. I haven't tried v. 1.0 though. Is it faster??

Sandman2012 · 29th August 2002, 18:33

Generally .ogg is a better format than .mp3, but if you convert from .mp3 to .ogg Lapikas is right, you will lose quality.

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28th August 2002, 11:23	#1
Windude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: secret Posts: 289	winamp, cash cows and thompson I am back at the Forums after being away for a little while no doubt none of you missed me, anyhow i bring news from my travels: Freeware MP3 decoder proggies shall be charged 75cents per copy. that includes winamp, sonique, musicmatch or anything else that may be freeware and decode mp3's. so will AOL stuff up the cash for winamp to remain free or will we have to "buy" it..... <<<will give head for food-stamps>>>

28th August 2002, 12:28	#8
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	yes but that never stoped them from "Borowing" a copy Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

28th August 2002, 17:36	#9
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	this is just another plot by The Man to takeover the internet music community. even those of us who do not download mp3s, but, rather rip them from our own cds for use on our computers will be affected negatively by this turn of events. stupid ogg, thinks it's so cool when it's not. For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

28th August 2002, 20:43	#11
Shenlong Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: About 38°N, 86°W Posts: 2,905	Just because I have to pay for a newer version doesn't mean I can't stop using the free and older version. A very close Japanese friend I knew a while ago once said to me "Watashi no koto wo oboeta, onegai shimasu...Yakusoku?" I forgot his name though...

28th August 2002, 11:28	#2
Schismx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 330	Use Ogg. MP3 is dead.

28th August 2002, 11:28	#3
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	I would pay for it.

28th August 2002, 11:30	#4
Cheezychops Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 767	i would get bilbo's warez copy

28th August 2002, 11:56	#6
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	I wouldn't pay. Which doesn't mean I'd stop using it

28th August 2002, 20:37	#10
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	sorry to break it to you liquid, but with higher sound quality at lower bitrates, and, on average, lower filesizes for the same quality...vorbis is pretty cool. i won't be paying or cracking, i'll be using vorbis only version.

28th August 2002, 21:31	#12
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	[moderator s1138] sure id pay...though mods should get a free copy [/moderator s1138] [s1138] pay..pff..i didnt pay when it was shareware before...[/s1138]

29th August 2002, 01:54	#14
Rocky Raccoon Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Abbey Road Posts: 384	I wouldn't pay... I actually own the original CDs of 99% of the music I have in my computer (except a few Yoko Ono tracks that are almost impossible to find in it's original version where I live), and I don't think I should pay to extract them to my computer... besides, there's OGG, and I've already started re-ripping my CDs to that format... better quality, smaller files, free... what else can you ask for? [edit]oh, it said "decode", not "encode"... :P still, I wouldn't pay[/edit] Salaam

29th August 2002, 03:25	#15
Curi0us_George Forum King Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: -1 Posts: 5,179	No. There will always be free alternatives, legal or not. For the freedom to express myself in my own way without fear of being censored or banned. 47 65 6C 61 65 64 2E 63 6F 6D 00

29th August 2002, 03:48	#17
mmitchell86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 213	This is why i keep a copy of 2.81 Michael

29th August 2002, 07:24	#19
Lapikas Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the other side.. Posts: 670	No! Please don't convert your mp3's to ogg. It just lowers the quality.. I would use ogg but encoding takes 4 times longer than mp3. I haven't tried v. 1.0 though. Is it faster?? The requested SIG could not be retrieved

29th August 2002, 18:33	#20
Sandman2012 <3 foobar2k (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,203	Generally .ogg is a better format than .mp3, but if you convert from .mp3 to .ogg Lapikas is right, you will lose quality. pabook.net

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