real audio to mp3 or wav PPLEEASE!?

[Some1]

ripping streams is illegal because you aren't paying for it.

My understanding is that Joep218 was trying to transcode songs he already had on his HDD, not songs that he was streaming over the Internet (or other network), which in my view should be a legal application of either one of the rippers. Just because an app has the potential to break the law doesn't mean that it should be banned from discussion...a car can be used to mow down innocent pedestrians ala GTA3, but we don't make cars illegal now, do we (because the primary purpose of the car is to transport, not to kill)? In my opinion, TotalRecorder was made more with transcoding in mind (and also ripping sound from weird sources, like games, flash animation, and the like) than ripping stuff that is streamed over the Internet (Streambox is kind of a grey area, since it was designed for RealMedia, which is primarily a streaming format), and thus TotalRecorder, at least, should be tolerated.