Old 6th January 2003, 00:49   #1
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Illegal use of Irish landing Area's By the US Military

I refer to this Blatant breach of our Neutral stance in the world political field.

The US Military are landing on Irish soveriegn soil and Refueling and installing weapons material on there Aircraft.

This is in complete disregard to all international conventions and treaties governing Neutral Countries.
Whilst if an emergency situation arose it is only right under the 'MAYDAY' rules to offer assistance, There is nothing set in the criteria [including The New International Anti-Terroist Mandate]
That allows this blatant disregard for International law.

This means then that America are guilty under The War Crimes act.The body that Covers such infringments and are also accountable in The International Courts of Law.....

I call here that all these operations By The American Military To cease immediatly.
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Old 6th January 2003, 00:59   #2
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more of Dubya's stupidity.

he should be removed from office due to ineptitude...
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stupid. if it were a violation of anything it wouldnt be done.

i dont know what bullshit your media is feeding you but its probably a lie (why the fuck would anyone pay attention to the news if its all run by people who are partisan?)

and, this thread goes in breaking news.
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I fail to see how this would violate any "international laws". Personally, I think the whole thing is BS.

Now, I would also like to point out that by allowing us to land on their soil, Ireland has effectively given up their neutral status. Though I wouldn't call Ireland neutral in the first place.

I would also imagine that if any such laws do exist, they are for the protection of neutral coutries. i.e. the laws would say that you can't force a neutral country to house your military.

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have you got a link or something smeggle? i can't find a shred of this on the net. incidentally though, the government would have to be willing for them to be installing weapons equipment.

edit: found this - related? the government explicitly allowed the US to land in this case though, thus not breaking any law.

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Old 6th January 2003, 01:32   #6
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International law may be a load of bull-poopie, but Ireland is a militarily neutral country, so if this is true, it's bad news Bush.

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Old 6th January 2003, 01:42   #7
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stupid. if it were a violation of anything it wouldnt be done.

i dont know what bullshit your media is feeding you but its probably a lie (why the fuck would anyone pay attention to the news if its all run by people who are partisan?)

and, this thread goes in breaking news.

Breaking news? does it? only when it is breaking news, this has been going on since last year.

Military aircraft of another nation may land On Irish Soil In cases of 'Extreme Emergency Only'
Why can't they use there Airbases in 'Mildenhall' or Lakenheath?
We Don't want you here.We do not want your death and destruction.
And for that matter neither does most of the world.
You dominate our world with your horror, death and destruction.
Everywhere you go in our world that is all you do, is cause death and destruction! It is you that, is in the wrong because you choose to let A moron and his cronie's/gangster's Feed You full of bullshit.

btw A remote controll unit capable of controlling a modern Aircraft? hard? Don't make me laugh, I can get the components from any Tandy/Radioshack store over the shelf.
It was your own Goverment that did these and the other atrocities that have happened since 9/11.

This is about nothing but OIL. Something your country has little left. Answer? We'll just do this,so we have the excuse to STEAL other peoples.
Why can't you sort your own house out before you stick your noses into other countrys?

Stay at home we don't want your MILITARY over here or anywhere for that matter.
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hester, if Ireland lets us land on their soil, then their neutrality is in jeopardy. I don't see how we can get in trouble.

smeggle, where the hell are you from?

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And what are the Irish going to do about it? Oh yeah? You and what army?
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being an american, i can seriously say.

HAHA irish basterds, the english trampled you, now its our turn muahha

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thast pretty shitty of us, i think we have taken our own self imposed world leader stance to a new high...


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And what are the Irish going to do about it? Oh yeah? You and what army?
Cú Chulainn could kick America's ass.

George, not sure I understood smeggle correctly, and in the absence of a link to a reliable news source, I'm assuming the US is doing this without Ireland's consent, in which case, it would be a violation of Ireland's neutrality. That is, IF I understood smeggle correctly.

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Whether this is a solid claim or not, get used to it. The US has been doing shit like this for years (ever since WWII after we shed our isolationistic views). And, because we are the biggest kid on the block (not really, we just make sure all other kids don't get enough resources to grow bigger than us), we can do this and get away with it.
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Old 6th January 2003, 03:48   #14
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More proof that the world is getting more and more anal retentive. I mean, why care? There are more important things to worry about than stepping a foot on someone else's turf.

From what I read here, I gather that Ireland is the cranky old neighbor that wouldn't let you get your ball if it accidentally fell in his yard.
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Cú Chulainn could kick America's ass.

George, not sure I understood smeggle correctly, and in the absence of a link to a reliable news source, I'm assuming the US is doing this without Ireland's consent, in which case, it would be a violation of Ireland's neutrality. That is, IF I understood smeggle correctly.
there is a site dedicated to this. I and friends held a protest in Dublin along with many many others.
One of the people involved is a lady Called mary Kelly, one of the most beautiful spirits I have had the pleasure of meeting. Some of you may remember her name from the siege of the nativity in Isreal.
She has [with others] been instrumental in exposing the Atrocities
carried out by the Israeli's [on a daily basis] Aided by American Armenents.
I do not have the site to hand but will post it on up when I find iy later. yeah I remember www.irishantiwar.org sure thats it not sure of the .org bit as it be ie...like I say of the top of my head not sure.
The Irish Govt. are currently being challenged in the Supreme court
on there desision to allow this access. it is 1/Unconstitutional 2/ Against all international law [concerning Neutrality] And no where does the International Anti-Terroist Mandate support this action.

proven fact that it is easier,more secure etc for these plains to land at an American base in Britain. lakenheath is only 300 more miles in a straight line and they have to land at Shannon yeah right.

like I said we do not want the American Military machine and niether do we want it in Ireland. That is the choice of teh irish people in polls. Yet our voice is un-heard because you the ordinary people of America are being lied to. proof go here http://www.rense.com/ scroll down page and select from the numerous links.
this site say's it all. Quite simply The truth. sadly some can't accept that as it is to hard.rather they would rather be sheep and be lied to how terribly sad. Use your voice and do something about it.
Do youreally want a war? do you really want to see what happened 35 years ago begin again? that will happen. It won't in the end just be Iraq it will be the whole region....how very sad our world is how very sad.
I know I don't want this for my son....


btw do look at center of page on link this is how many children your govt. has killed with it's sanctions amongst other things. Killing children and who can then say they stand proud? I would my head in shame if I talked wrong to a child. is this something to be Proud of ? over 500,000 children ...dead...sorry The Truth is sometomes harsh is it not. You the ordinary people of America and the world are not responcible for this it is your govt. because we the people have given them that power. In another thread tonight I was asked for peace I was wrong to refuse Will you be wrong to refuse my request to help stop killing the children for they are our future and This world in which we live is not ours ..It is on loan to us from our children and there children and there children and there........
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any country is capable of getting bigger than us, they will just need to catch up with our technology first.
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rm', if the US government was doing this without Irish consent, then everyone would have already heard about it. Smeggle said that the Irish government is allowing it. I see no fault in the US's actions. Though I honestly don't know why we would need to land in Ireland to rearm. The UK is just to the south and I'm sure they'll let us stop for the night.

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In that case, then, this is a complete nonissue to everyone, except the Irish. Go back to your homes, people, nothing to see here.

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Oh come on, the Irish just wanted to do their little Sinead'O'Connor anti-war thing a little bit and act important.

OK, its back to the Lucky Charms factory for the lot of you. (j/k)
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any country is capable of getting bigger than us, they will just need to catch up with our technology first.
what is here friend is not technology it is wanton destruction of
life , culture but then that is nothing new you've been doing it since the mid 1700's. Sorry but I read the true history books not those that your govt. allow you to read . FREEDOM? you don't know the meaning of it for you are more trapped by the fear that your govt. has instilled into your society than you would ever know.
click the link first and look a few more may have been added...it's
here http://www.irishantiwar.org ....
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In that case, then, this is a complete nonissue to everyone, except the Irish. Go back to your homes, people, nothing to see here.
so I take it you didn't click here then obvious you didn't http://www.rense.com/

other wise you would see how important this is not just to us in Ireland but to everyone ..
...world wide cause if Moron is allowed to carry on he's gonna have us all at war...well fuck him
I remeber the day of 9/11 where was he at a school in Florida how convenient aide moves in ..whispers hye moron dimwit just flew a couple of planes into a building moron contiues to sit threr for another hr ...yeah right he didn't know....
But his best had to be the devaluation of te yen...how to wipe out the shares in your comp.portfolio?....give the job to moron 'Butcher bush' as we know him by
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what is here friend is not technology it is wanton destruction of
life , culture but then that is nothing new you've been doing it since the mid 1700's. Sorry but I read the true history books not those that your govt. allow you to read . FREEDOM? you don't know the meaning of it for you are more trapped by the fear that your govt. has instilled into your society than you would ever know.
click the link first and look a few more may have been added...it's
here http://www.irishantiwar.org ....
Yep. Insulting people has always been a good way to get them to listen . . . . Why don't you enlighten me as to what "fear" the government has instilled in me?

I quite honestly doubt you've ever read any United States history book. You've absorbed some anti-US propaganda from some web sites. That's hardly the same thing.


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so I take it you didn't click here then obvious you didn't http://www.rense.com/

other wise you would see how important this is not just to us in Ireland but to everyone ..
...world wide cause if Moron is allowed to carry on he's gonna have us all at war...well fuck him
I remeber the day of 9/11 where was he at a school in Florida how convenient aide moves in ..whispers hye moron dimwit just flew a couple of planes into a building moron contiues to sit threr for another hr ...yeah right he didn't know....
But his best had to be the devaluation of te yen...how to wipe out the shares in your comp.portfolio?....give the job to moron 'Butcher bush' as we know him by
The United States president has a name. Referring to him as "Moron", as though it is his proper name puts you into the same category of fool that abbreviate "Microsoft" as "M$". You should also work on forming coherent sentences if you are going to throw out insults at someone else's intelligence.

When I first heard about the planes crashing into the buildings, I was in the Student Services center. I heard it over the radio. Then someone else mentioned it to me. I just smiled and said, "Yeah, I heard." I had no idea just how serious it was, or that it was intentional. I thought it was just a really odd coincidence that two planes struck those towers at the same time. I didn't find out until about an hour later just exactly what was going on. Don't criticize him for not jumping up and declaring jihad. Isn't that what you are wanting to avoid, anyway . . . ?

I have trouble sifting through your writing, but it looks as though you are saying George Bush is also personally responsible for devaluing the Yen. You are going to have to explain that one . . .

By the way, Bush parking planes in Ireland isn't going to start a war.

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Yet our voice is un-heard because you the ordinary people of America are being lied to. proof go here http://www.rense.com/ scroll down page and select from the numerous links.
this site say's it all. Quite simply The truth. sadly some can't accept that as it is to hard.rather they would rather be sheep and be lied to how terribly sad. Use your voice and do something about it.
Holy shit. I decided to go to that site. You just lost any credibility you had. You linked to a site which has stories about extra terrestrials and claims to have proof of life after death. What the fuck? That site is a bunch of crap.

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bush is landing planes. i posted a link. i'm not sure if they're being refitted or not, but with the UK so close, it seems unlikely. just letting them land doesn't forgo any law i know of.

and xerxes - c'mon... that satirewire thing was unbelievable lowbrow for something claiming to be "satire".

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C'mon, man! It's Canada! It's simply not possible to go too low. It's not satire... it's a factual news report

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Oh, I never doubted that we were landing planes. I didn't know that we were, but it doesn't exactly shock me. I just doubt that the US is breaking any kind of law by doing so.

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Just because America is stopping by, doesn't mean that they are going to war with you.

And Smeggle, what is this fear that you are talking about? Honestly, everything you say sounds like propaganda bullshit.

When Bush was reading a book to children at a school on 9/11, I think it was very manly of him to continue to read the book to the children. If you were him, would you actually stand up in front of those children and tell them that thousands of people have died? If so, you are not too wise.

There is really no way for me to prove Bush didn't know of the attacks prior to 9/11, but see how he looked back then and compare to how he looks now. A man does not age that much in a year unless he is put through extreme stress. Now how could he be in stress if this was all some big government scheme? And what would be the point of that scheme?

Smeggle, open your eyes. War has been going on ever since man was created. It is a way of life. You should know that by now.
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I am blown away by the thought that anyone would believe that our president knew that those planes were going to be flown into the Trade Center buildings. Someone within our government may have had some idea but not specifics.

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Stay at home we don't want your MILITARY over here or anywhere for that matter.


O.K. but remember you said that. There will come a time when your piss ant island will need our help or protection, probably from a terrorist country, and I would hope that our government remembers comments from pussies like you. We won't come and bail you out like we did for the French in WWI and WWII. Remember that if not for us you and all your neighbors would be speaking German!


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Raven made a good point there.
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smeggle,
I went to your link and the thing that caught my attention was the Iraq sanction clock. you know the clock showing how many children the Iraqi people have allowed to die rather than oust Sadam. For some reason you people accuse the US for United Nation resolutions. another article that caught my attention was the one titled "bush exposed about sept11th lies ". I remember where I was on that terrible day. I work for a lawn care company and as I was going through this woman's lawn she stopped me and said you've got to see this a plane has hit the World trade center. Just as I stepped onto he patio and look into the kitchen at her small television I saw the second plane hit live. What the writer of the article forgets is that there were video clips of the first plane hitting the building being played over and over until the second plane hit therefore Bush could have been watching coverage of the first hit and assumed, as the entire world did, that it was an accident. You know we have enough conspiracy theorist here we don't need some jerk off from Ireland of all places to start more. The facts are : planes hijacked by terrorists hit the world trade center buildings killing thousands of innocent people, The united states will not rest until the people that ordered, paid for, and cheered the attack are hunted down and killed. We tried along time ago to have nothing to do with the outside world. We just wanted to be left alone to live our lives, but the rest of you went out of your way to pull us into your wars. (WWI and WWII) So now we are the big kid on the block and we aren't going to take anymore shit from you pipsqueeks. Shut up and let us do what we need to to avenge our lost souls.
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