jesus christ...what kind of servers do you need to accomidate over 20000 listeners??

WLED RADIO · 8th April 2003, 00:06

i see all teh top rated stations and they have like 50,000 people listening....

but my station starts skipping when i get over 100.....

what kind of power are these people working with??

8th April 2003, 00:45

Untravox 2.0.

The big ones are hosted by AOL and have their own specialy designed hardware. AOL has pleanty of bandwidth.

Vchat20 · 17th April 2003, 20:42

LOL. my god does AOL have bandwidth. about >1000GBps combined?

17th April 2003, 21:06

Quote:

the amount of bandwidth we have here at aol, when you add it up, is
really quite a lot. i mean, it's rather unfathomable really. it's just
plain ludicrous. and we give most of it away, which is even funnier.
you really can't get your head around just how unbefuckingmindbogglingly
huge it is. more than pretty much anything you can comprehend.
it's just that big.

Vchat20 · 18th April 2003, 05:18

Can they please donate some to us shoutcasters? really wouldnt make a difference would it?

Jay · 18th April 2003, 05:22

um... they... do.... maybe you missed the stations that have the capacity?

Vchat20 · 18th April 2003, 05:29

yeah, but I mean something along the lines of public donations. maybe have the first 100 or so people who sign up for free bandwidth actually get it and the rest are rejected? then they would get more repsect amongst us.

Jay · 18th April 2003, 05:31

umm... they did that... you sort of fall into 'the rest' category.

Vchat20 · 18th April 2003, 05:34

well, that just sucks! when did they do this?

Jay · 18th April 2003, 05:35

'bout a year ago.

Vchat20 · 18th April 2003, 05:42

damn. wasnt here. was part of the "offline and cant help it" crowd at that time. I was offline since I think fall of 2000 and got back on beginning of summer last year.

marvel_boy8 · 22nd April 2003, 09:42

Will AOL be planning to do it again?

Jay · 22nd April 2003, 16:31

it's doubtful that they will do it in the same way they did before, but what would I know. You can always hold out hope though.

bigplumbz · 24th April 2003, 12:00

Well, if i had lots opf bandwidth you guys could have some! as it turns out I have less that most, so tough! lol, i se what your saying guys, a little bandwidth couldnt harm anyone, TBH AOL screwed me a few years back and I lost a lot of respect for them, yet when a company does things like give out fre bandwidth etc to non AOLers etc you got to respect them for it. WELL DONE AOL! lets hope more follow in their kind footsteps hey guys!?

vice86 · 2nd May 2003, 17:04

What do you mean by A LOT of bandwidth....how much are we talking if you want atleast 100-200 listeners only? How could I go about getting enough bandwidth to do that?

I'm only able to do about 5 listeners now and I'd like to have a constantly running broadcast...atleast from morning till about midnight or something.

FesterHead · 2nd May 2003, 18:18

You can play with the bandwidth calculators to find the bandwidth required for your bitrate and the number of target listeners.

Check out the SHOUTcast Technical Support or SHOUTcast Discussions Sticky post titled:
SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME!

Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled:
1. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> DSLReports Bandwidth tester(Only be concerned with the UPLOAD bandwidth)
2. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Listener Calculator
3. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Bandwidth Calculator

Use 1 to find your upload.
Use 2 to determine the number of listeners you can support at your selected streaming bitrate.

Jay (KXRM) also has a Bandwidth Calculator.

Want more bandwdith? Use Third party DNAS hosting

vice86 · 2nd May 2003, 18:26

thanks again fester...i know what Im able to do using my bandwidth..i get about 800 up so its recommended 5 people only at 128kbps stream or 7 people on a 96kbps stream...I'd like to keep ATLEAST a 96kbps stream with more people allowed to get on...ill have to look at that 3rd party DNAS hosting...only thing the link shows nothing on my mac here at work

Ill check it out when i get home tonite.

PhatTommy39 · 4th May 2003, 16:51

vice you really should get a host.

http://www.bean-net.net is really cheap, and http://www.streamguys.com is another good provider.

crowfield99 · 5th May 2003, 16:43

About AOL being a server is there a web address or contact address so I could check this out?

Thanks,

civperc · 5th May 2003, 21:01

Quote:

Originally posted by PhatTommy39
vice you really should get a host.

http://www.bean-net.net is really cheap, and http://www.streamguys.com is another good provider.

yeah bean-net is cheap, however you must pay at least $25 a month to have their services.

Rafael2127 · 7th May 2003, 03:46

I was payig to much to internetradio.nu for me it was cheap.. but 50c per listener sounds great .. I'm changing to http://www.bean-net.net/prices.html :-)
Thank you for the info

JE JaggedEdge · 7th May 2003, 11:43

Hey, if you want 100 listeners or more at 128k, I can get u a really nice deal.

JE

mwmix · 7th May 2003, 17:53

I want that good deal for 100 listeners.. tell me about it

Scriptz · 6th January 2004, 07:18

http://www.screaminghost.com is a good deal, cheaper than bean-net.net at lower stream quality but at 128k its almost a dollar more.
Just check them both out and if your gonna go less than 128k then screaminghost is the better way to go and you only need to spend 20 bucks, not 25 but bean-net.net will haggle as I got them to lower it to $20 fairly easy.

PhatTommy39 · 6th January 2004, 20:39

Quote:

Originally posted by civperc
yeah bean-net is cheap, however you must pay at least $25 a month to have their services.

They just lowered them due to a partnership with DRS2006. They are now about $0.50-$1.00 less then StreamGuys.

8th April 2003, 00:06	#1
WLED RADIO Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6	jesus christ...what kind of servers do you need to accomidate over 20000 listeners?? i see all teh top rated stations and they have like 50,000 people listening.... but my station starts skipping when i get over 100..... what kind of power are these people working with??

18th April 2003, 05:22	#6
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	um... they... do.... maybe you missed the stations that have the capacity? -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

18th April 2003, 05:31	#8
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	umm... they did that... you sort of fall into 'the rest' category. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

18th April 2003, 05:35	#10
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	'bout a year ago. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

22nd April 2003, 16:31	#13
Jay Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: Next Door Posts: 8,942	it's doubtful that they will do it in the same way they did before, but what would I know. You can always hold out hope though. -Jay \| Radio Toolbox.com

8th April 2003, 00:45	#2
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	Untravox 2.0. The big ones are hosted by AOL and have their own specialy designed hardware. AOL has pleanty of bandwidth.

17th April 2003, 20:42	#3
Vchat20 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,273	LOL. my god does AOL have bandwidth. about >1000GBps combined?

18th April 2003, 05:18	#5
Vchat20 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,273	Can they please donate some to us shoutcasters? really wouldnt make a difference would it?

18th April 2003, 05:29	#7
Vchat20 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,273	yeah, but I mean something along the lines of public donations. maybe have the first 100 or so people who sign up for free bandwidth actually get it and the rest are rejected? then they would get more repsect amongst us.

18th April 2003, 05:34	#9
Vchat20 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,273	well, that just sucks! when did they do this?

18th April 2003, 05:42	#11
Vchat20 Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,273	damn. wasnt here. was part of the "offline and cant help it" crowd at that time. I was offline since I think fall of 2000 and got back on beginning of summer last year.

22nd April 2003, 09:42	#12
marvel_boy8 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 65	Will AOL be planning to do it again?

24th April 2003, 12:00	#14
bigplumbz Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 25	Well, if i had lots opf bandwidth you guys could have some! as it turns out I have less that most, so tough! lol, i se what your saying guys, a little bandwidth couldnt harm anyone, TBH AOL screwed me a few years back and I lost a lot of respect for them, yet when a company does things like give out fre bandwidth etc to non AOLers etc you got to respect them for it. WELL DONE AOL! lets hope more follow in their kind footsteps hey guys!?

2nd May 2003, 17:04	#15
vice86 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Poconos, PA Posts: 121	What do you mean by A LOT of bandwidth....how much are we talking if you want atleast 100-200 listeners only? How could I go about getting enough bandwidth to do that? I'm only able to do about 5 listeners now and I'd like to have a constantly running broadcast...atleast from morning till about midnight or something.

2nd May 2003, 18:18	#16
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	You can play with the bandwidth calculators to find the bandwidth required for your bitrate and the number of target listeners. Check out the SHOUTcast Technical Support or SHOUTcast Discussions Sticky post titled: SHOUTcast: Important Info & Answers to FAQs. READ ME! Scroll down a bit and look for the section titled: 1. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> DSLReports Bandwidth tester(Only be concerned with the UPLOAD bandwidth) 2. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Listener Calculator 3. DNAS Stuff -> Bandwidth -> CasterClub's Bandwidth Calculator Use 1 to find your upload. Use 2 to determine the number of listeners you can support at your selected streaming bitrate. Jay (KXRM) also has a Bandwidth Calculator. Want more bandwdith? Use Third party DNAS hosting

2nd May 2003, 18:26	#17
vice86 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Poconos, PA Posts: 121	thanks again fester...i know what Im able to do using my bandwidth..i get about 800 up so its recommended 5 people only at 128kbps stream or 7 people on a 96kbps stream...I'd like to keep ATLEAST a 96kbps stream with more people allowed to get on...ill have to look at that 3rd party DNAS hosting...only thing the link shows nothing on my mac here at work Ill check it out when i get home tonite.

4th May 2003, 16:51	#18
PhatTommy39 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: www.commorragh.org Posts: 86	vice you really should get a host. http://www.bean-net.net is really cheap, and http://www.streamguys.com is another good provider.

5th May 2003, 16:43	#19
crowfield99 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 63	About AOL being a server is there a web address or contact address so I could check this out? Thanks,

7th May 2003, 03:46	#21
Rafael2127 Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New York Ecuador Posts: 93	thanks for the help with the server for my radio I was payig to much to internetradio.nu for me it was cheap.. but 50c per listener sounds great .. I'm changing to http://www.bean-net.net/prices.html :-) Thank you for the info

7th May 2003, 11:43	#22
JE JaggedEdge Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 415	Hey, if you want 100 listeners or more at 128k, I can get u a really nice deal. JE .::.(())::. Urban Hitz Radio™ USA .::.(())::. The People' Choice for Hip-Hop & R&B! Listen to Urban Hitz Radio - GET A Local or TOLL-FREE Request Line NOW...Only $2 Monthly Request Line: 1-855 588-6767

7th May 2003, 17:53	#23
mwmix Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8	I want that good deal for 100 listeners.. tell me about it

6th January 2004, 07:18	#24
Scriptz Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5	http://www.screaminghost.com is a good deal, cheaper than bean-net.net at lower stream quality but at 128k its almost a dollar more. Just check them both out and if your gonna go less than 128k then screaminghost is the better way to go and you only need to spend 20 bucks, not 25 but bean-net.net will haggle as I got them to lower it to $20 fairly easy.

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