New Guy with New Presets

GKZ · 16th April 2003, 00:29

Hey!

I've recently released my first preset pack... Until it's added to the winamp.com presets database you can get it from the downloads area of http://www.geekwurkz.tk. I'm relatively new to AVS so any speed improvements would be welcome... Considering they were designed on an 300 MHz AMD K6-2 proc, they're rather optimised already so I could get half decent framerates.

Nick

BTW... Please excuse the installer, It's my first installer made with NSIS and it's designed to install the presets to the winamp 2 path only.

BTWx2... Please tell me what you think of them as well.

hungryskull · 16th April 2003, 01:11

You made shareware AVS Presets I have never seen that before. Here is my review of your presets.

01-intro - Ugly,repetitive and barely music responsive.

02-Black Hole - Kind of ugly.

03-Bubbles - Very simple and it could be more music responsive.

04-Burning sun - Kinda ugly.

05-Channel - Doesn't look very nice.

06-Driving - Very simple.

07-Enter the Wormhole - Not music responsive.

08-Meteorite - This is very simple.

09-Nauesa - Ugly and simple.

10-NoTA-logo - Not very nice also slightly boring.

11-Pastel Firewurx - Simple.

12-Plasma Globe - Not very interesting.

13-Pulse - Don't like this one.

14-Spiral - Ugly.

A lot of these presets are simple but at least you used some superscopes and Dynamic Movements.

GKZ · 16th April 2003, 02:16

Well, I might as well put the full version up for review here... It's got one preset that is supposed to be unbeliveably simple, you'll know it when you see it. It's at http://www.geekwurkz.tk/downloads/setup.exe

Phaze1987 · 16th April 2003, 07:52

Pretty newbie presets...work some more and try to understand movements and the greatest tool,the superscope.

Tuggummi · 16th April 2003, 08:27

SHAREWARE AVS? WTF?!

Please don't do that... Many of us (more like all) do presets for FREE just because we like doing AVS presets. We give away free code that others can use as well in their own presets considering that we give credit where credit is due.

But to charge money from AVS PRESETS? That is out of the question at least for me! It's not moraly right to charge money from something others can do themselves as well. Besides AVS presets are "soft coded" add-on's to a hard coded plugin, they need the actual avs system to run. I know that wa plugins need the actual winamp to run, but for AVS? You need 2 "separate" (while avs comes with winamp, it's still a separate component) softwares to get the damn thing to work, first winamp and then avs on top of it, and after that the actual avs presets!

Sorry, but this kinda thing is unaccetable and just makes me

We do them for free and you charge money from it! Also to tell you the truth these are very very basic presets and don't even look that good. Even the "newpicks" presets look better

Fucking fuck... i guess i now have to write to copyright part also: "You can't use effects coded by me if you charge/gain money from your presets" Thanks a bunch!

shreyas_potnis · 16th April 2003, 09:19

well, I do AVS as a hobby, as a passion, an addiction, thats what I do AVS for...and I would hate anyone charging money for the presets.
anyway, I dont think anyone would pay for those presets (no offence)

GKZ · 17th April 2003, 00:53

Hey!
I'm allowed to charge money for them if I want to...
Anyways, I'm selling them to wannabe DJs at the local flea markets who will pay $50 for any POS that has good advertising. It's not my fault if they don't know better.

Nick

shreyas_potnis · 17th April 2003, 08:34

they would kick you if someone sent them some of tugg's presets or UnConeD's

GKZ · 17th April 2003, 20:24

That's why I always cover my rear.

Anyways, I'm not trying to be the next UnConeD. This is mostly a hobby (as in I don't spend more than 2 hours per preset on average.) If I come up with something cool, that's great, if most of my stuff is mediocre (or worse,) so be it.

Nick

BTW... I'm making these on a 300 MHz system, so I have to keep them simple in order for them to work. Of course, if a new PC appeared at my door...

NemoOrange · 17th April 2003, 20:29

Ooooo, an AVS sellout, this might be interesting.

GKZ · 17th April 2003, 20:48

I never thought everyone would be so POed about the idea of shareware... Oh well, c'est la vie. Maybe I should keep the shareware version for the flea markets and put the full version up here... Whadd'ya think?

Nick

Raz · 17th April 2003, 21:16

Any respect we would ever have for you has officially gone to shit. Charging money for crap presets, a sellout before even getting half decent at AVS, thats just low man.

Phaze1987 · 17th April 2003, 22:18

GKZ that aint normal and really not polite from you,you show us and the whole communit 0(zero) respect.I have nothing against making some quick money but what you`re doing is just crap IMO.Dont sell anyone else`s presets or i`ll hunt you down(really).

Nic01 · 17th April 2003, 22:24

Selling presets?

If they took a month's worth of work, I understand, but from these peoples' responses...

GKZ : You won't make it in life.

Jaak · 19th April 2003, 16:07

Pffff! selling presets, this is lame, you aint gonna be rich this way, even the winamp is free, why chould then some n00b sell his presets?????????????
you must be heck of the good avs-er, petter than UnConeD, fsk, elvis, skupers etc. to sell even just ONE of you'r presets, the presets are downloadable at winamp and deviantart any time FREE!!!!

Raz · 19th April 2003, 16:57

Rip off artists piss me off. Go and get a job.

Request for thread to be locked before more flaming ensues.

GKZ · 20th April 2003, 00:47

Look, since y'all are so pissed, expect the preset pack to be pulled down within the hour. Happy? I was trying to make some pocket change.

GKZ

Raz · 20th April 2003, 00:55

Go and work for it then. Don't sell noob presets, presets for a piece of subsoftware to a free piece of software. Not even a good ones. Submit the pack at WA or deviantart or wherever just don't charge for it unless it's worth paying for.

GKZ · 20th April 2003, 00:55

The presets HAVE BEEN REMOVED!
Please disregard any and all shareware notices in the copies you have downloaded.

Regards,
Nicholas

GKZ · 20th April 2003, 00:59

Look, I apologise for the way I acted above... Hopefully that'll regain at least 0.00001% respect.

Nick

shreyas_potnis · 20th April 2003, 10:13

well, it was your decision...

Raz · 20th April 2003, 13:16

I have slight respect for you for admitting you were wrong and correcting and apologising. And not reacting by flaming members for critisising you. I thank you for remaining civilised. NOW we can welcome you to the community.

Phaze1987 · 20th April 2003, 13:23

Apologies accepted.Welcome to the community Nick !

Jaak · 20th April 2003, 18:12

Thanks for removing them, welcome you to the winamp avs forums.

shreyas_potnis · 22nd April 2003, 08:55

yeah, welcome...just make sure you dont do that again! (am I sounding grown up? )

nixa · 22nd April 2003, 12:03

I got free drinks at one (private)party i made special themed presets for...but I think i would of got them anyway so that doesnt count

Tuggummi · 22nd April 2003, 12:08

Quote:

I got free drinks at one (private)party i made special themed presets for...

Well if you're an AVS Vj and you display your own work and get paid for a nights gig, that's ok. But selling AVS on the net? Well... do i need to say anything?

Anyway hope you won't sell avs again and im glad you stopped it so soon, welcome to the forums GKZ

Raz · 22nd April 2003, 14:08

Quote:

yeah, welcome...just make sure you dont do that again! (am I sounding grown up? )

No because you're asking if you're sounding grown up. Right, nick has met the welcome comittee. Lets get on with presets and forum activity now. Come on break it up nothing to see here

16th April 2003, 00:29	#1
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	New Guy with New Presets Hey! I've recently released my first preset pack... Until it's added to the winamp.com presets database you can get it from the downloads area of http://www.geekwurkz.tk. I'm relatively new to AVS so any speed improvements would be welcome... Considering they were designed on an 300 MHz AMD K6-2 proc, they're rather optimised already so I could get half decent framerates. Nick BTW... Please excuse the installer, It's my first installer made with NSIS and it's designed to install the presets to the winamp 2 path only. BTWx2... Please tell me what you think of them as well.

16th April 2003, 01:11	#2
hungryskull Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere in Canada Posts: 776	You made shareware AVS Presets I have never seen that before. Here is my review of your presets. 01-intro - Ugly,repetitive and barely music responsive. 02-Black Hole - Kind of ugly. 03-Bubbles - Very simple and it could be more music responsive. 04-Burning sun - Kinda ugly. 05-Channel - Doesn't look very nice. 06-Driving - Very simple. 07-Enter the Wormhole - Not music responsive. 08-Meteorite - This is very simple. 09-Nauesa - Ugly and simple. 10-NoTA-logo - Not very nice also slightly boring. 11-Pastel Firewurx - Simple. 12-Plasma Globe - Not very interesting. 13-Pulse - Don't like this one. 14-Spiral - Ugly. A lot of these presets are simple but at least you used some superscopes and Dynamic Movements. Darn, I can't think of anything to put here.

16th April 2003, 07:52	#4
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	Pretty newbie presets...work some more and try to understand movements and the greatest tool,the superscope. \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

16th April 2003, 08:27	#5
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,179	SHAREWARE AVS? WTF?! Please don't do that... Many of us (more like all) do presets for FREE just because we like doing AVS presets. We give away free code that others can use as well in their own presets considering that we give credit where credit is due. But to charge money from AVS PRESETS? That is out of the question at least for me! It's not moraly right to charge money from something others can do themselves as well. Besides AVS presets are "soft coded" add-on's to a hard coded plugin, they need the actual avs system to run. I know that wa plugins need the actual winamp to run, but for AVS? You need 2 "separate" (while avs comes with winamp, it's still a separate component) softwares to get the damn thing to work, first winamp and then avs on top of it, and after that the actual avs presets! Sorry, but this kinda thing is unaccetable and just makes me We do them for free and you charge money from it! Also to tell you the truth these are very very basic presets and don't even look that good. Even the "newpicks" presets look better Fucking fuck... i guess i now have to write to copyright part also: "You can't use effects coded by me if you charge/gain money from your presets" Thanks a bunch! Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

16th April 2003, 09:19	#6
shreyas_potnis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 787	well, I do AVS as a hobby, as a passion, an addiction, thats what I do AVS for...and I would hate anyone charging money for the presets. anyway, I dont think anyone would pay for those presets (no offence) http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis

16th April 2003, 02:16	#3
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	Well, I might as well put the full version up for review here... It's got one preset that is supposed to be unbeliveably simple, you'll know it when you see it. It's at http://www.geekwurkz.tk/downloads/setup.exe

17th April 2003, 00:53	#7
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	Hey! I'm allowed to charge money for them if I want to... Anyways, I'm selling them to wannabe DJs at the local flea markets who will pay $50 for any POS that has good advertising. It's not my fault if they don't know better. Nick

17th April 2003, 08:34	#8
shreyas_potnis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 787	they would kick you if someone sent them some of tugg's presets or UnConeD's http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis

17th April 2003, 20:24	#9
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	That's why I always cover my rear. Anyways, I'm not trying to be the next UnConeD. This is mostly a hobby (as in I don't spend more than 2 hours per preset on average.) If I come up with something cool, that's great, if most of my stuff is mediocre (or worse,) so be it. Nick BTW... I'm making these on a 300 MHz system, so I have to keep them simple in order for them to work. Of course, if a new PC appeared at my door...

17th April 2003, 20:29	#10
NemoOrange Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Philadelphia, USA Posts: 135	Ooooo, an AVS sellout, this might be interesting.

17th April 2003, 20:48	#11
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	I never thought everyone would be so POed about the idea of shareware... Oh well, c'est la vie. Maybe I should keep the shareware version for the flea markets and put the full version up here... Whadd'ya think? Nick

17th April 2003, 21:16	#12
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Any respect we would ever have for you has officially gone to shit. Charging money for crap presets, a sellout before even getting half decent at AVS, thats just low man.

17th April 2003, 22:18	#13
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	GKZ that aint normal and really not polite from you,you show us and the whole communit 0(zero) respect.I have nothing against making some quick money but what you`re doing is just crap IMO.Dont sell anyone else`s presets or i`ll hunt you down(really). \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

17th April 2003, 22:24	#14
Nic01 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Biggest Little City Posts: 508	Selling presets? If they took a month's worth of work, I understand, but from these peoples' responses... GKZ : You won't make it in life. [soon to leave, sirs]

19th April 2003, 16:07	#15
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	Pffff! selling presets, this is lame, you aint gonna be rich this way, even the winamp is free, why chould then some n00b sell his presets????????????? you must be heck of the good avs-er, petter than UnConeD, fsk, elvis, skupers etc. to sell even just ONE of you'r presets, the presets are downloadable at winamp and deviantart any time FREE!!!! Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

19th April 2003, 16:57	#16
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Rip off artists piss me off. Go and get a job. Request for thread to be locked before more flaming ensues.

20th April 2003, 00:47	#17
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	Look, since y'all are so pissed, expect the preset pack to be pulled down within the hour. Happy? I was trying to make some pocket change. GKZ

20th April 2003, 00:55	#18
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	Go and work for it then. Don't sell noob presets, presets for a piece of subsoftware to a free piece of software. Not even a good ones. Submit the pack at WA or deviantart or wherever just don't charge for it unless it's worth paying for.

20th April 2003, 00:59	#20
GKZ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 13	Look, I apologise for the way I acted above... Hopefully that'll regain at least 0.00001% respect. Nick

20th April 2003, 10:13	#21
shreyas_potnis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 787	well, it was your decision... http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis

20th April 2003, 13:16	#22
Raz Forum King Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,470	I have slight respect for you for admitting you were wrong and correcting and apologising. And not reacting by flaming members for critisising you. I thank you for remaining civilised. NOW we can welcome you to the community.

20th April 2003, 13:23	#23
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	Apologies accepted.Welcome to the community Nick ! \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

20th April 2003, 18:12	#24
Jaak Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Estonia. Posts: 851	Thanks for removing them, welcome you to the winamp avs forums. Phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

22nd April 2003, 08:55	#25
shreyas_potnis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 787	yeah, welcome...just make sure you dont do that again! (am I sounding grown up? ) http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis

22nd April 2003, 12:03	#26
nixa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 149	I got free drinks at one (private)party i made special themed presets for...but I think i would of got them anyway so that doesnt count

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