In WinAmp 2.9 - 2.9.1 some ogg files don't played correctly

diamond666 · 18th April 2003, 20:05

In WinAmp 2.9 - 2.9.1 some ogg files don't played correctly ("Era" - "The Mass" - "The Mass"), with noise (clicks), they played correctly if you disable in "Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.32" "Dither" checkbox.
WHY ???

clyde776 · 19th April 2003, 12:08

I have a similar problem which happen when opening an ogg file. Some of them play correctly, but others don't with winamp 2.90 or 2.91, they played correctly with winamp 2.8x (I also had to replace in_vorbis.dll in order to "fix" the problem). If you want me to send you a problematic ogg file, I can do it, but please fix this bug, I don't want to reencode 200 ogg files...

andymce · 19th April 2003, 12:47

I'm having this problem too. A bunch of albums i recently encoded won't play. (No sound, Winamp just skips to the end of the file without an error)
Encoded with OggEnc v1.0 (oggenc.exe) from the Vorbis website.
eg file:

length : 3:54
average bitrate : 179 kbps
file size : 5,249,457 bytes
nominal bitrate : 192 kbps
channels : 2
sampling rate: 44100 Hz
serial number: 21416
version : 0
vendor :
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717

These files do play with the Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.2.2 plugin that comes with Winamp v2.81.

clyde776 · 19th April 2003, 12:49

There is a older thread in the bottom of the list, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE ID3 tag of your ogg files, or they will be corrupt.
read the thread I read, Everything for me is in order now

andymce · 19th April 2003, 13:21

thanks clyde, but i think i'll just keep running 2.81 until it gets sorted out. (I don't want to go through all my oggs and rip out the info tags)

Wish · 19th April 2003, 13:34

No, you'll have to do the removal of the ID3V2 tags. Otherwise, you'll never be able to play in any other player that was updated recently, this is a change required by Xiph.Org, the organisation behind Vorbis. ID3V2 tags are illegal, they break compatability with Vorbis hardware based players. Vorbis uses its own tagging format, which is much better and less braindead compared with ID3V2.

If you see the thread mentioned by clyde, there's a program that can easily remove all of these ID3V2 tags from your Vorbis files.

andymce · 19th April 2003, 13:53

aww man.

My cd ripper program is the culprit here, it seems to add the tags by default. (changed setting now...)

I hope i can find some software to chop the tags automagically cos i don't wanna hafta go through all the files manually

thanks for the info Wish

andymce · 19th April 2003, 14:42

http://xdev.narod*****tagscan_e.htm does the trick.. i can play my files with the new version now!

18th April 2003, 20:05	#1
diamond666 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1	In WinAmp 2.9 - 2.9.1 some ogg files don't played correctly In WinAmp 2.9 - 2.9.1 some ogg files don't played correctly ("Era" - "The Mass" - "The Mass"), with noise (clicks), they played correctly if you disable in "Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.32" "Dither" checkbox. WHY ???

19th April 2003, 13:34	#6
Wish Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 702	No, you'll have to do the removal of the ID3V2 tags. Otherwise, you'll never be able to play in any other player that was updated recently, this is a change required by Xiph.Org, the organisation behind Vorbis. ID3V2 tags are illegal, they break compatability with Vorbis hardware based players. Vorbis uses its own tagging format, which is much better and less braindead compared with ID3V2. If you see the thread mentioned by clyde, there's a program that can easily remove all of these ID3V2 tags from your Vorbis files. Last edited by Wish; 19th April 2003 at 13:55.

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19th April 2003, 12:08	#2
clyde776 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	I have a similar problem which happen when opening an ogg file. Some of them play correctly, but others don't with winamp 2.90 or 2.91, they played correctly with winamp 2.8x (I also had to replace in_vorbis.dll in order to "fix" the problem). If you want me to send you a problematic ogg file, I can do it, but please fix this bug, I don't want to reencode 200 ogg files...

19th April 2003, 12:47	#3
andymce Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	I'm having this problem too. A bunch of albums i recently encoded won't play. (No sound, Winamp just skips to the end of the file without an error) Encoded with OggEnc v1.0 (oggenc.exe) from the Vorbis website. eg file: length : 3:54 average bitrate : 179 kbps file size : 5,249,457 bytes nominal bitrate : 192 kbps channels : 2 sampling rate: 44100 Hz serial number: 21416 version : 0 vendor : Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 These files do play with the Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.2.2 plugin that comes with Winamp v2.81.

19th April 2003, 12:49	#4
clyde776 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	There is a older thread in the bottom of the list, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE ID3 tag of your ogg files, or they will be corrupt. read the thread I read, Everything for me is in order now

19th April 2003, 13:21	#5
andymce Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	thanks clyde, but i think i'll just keep running 2.81 until it gets sorted out. (I don't want to go through all my oggs and rip out the info tags)

19th April 2003, 13:53	#7
andymce Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	aww man. My cd ripper program is the culprit here, it seems to add the tags by default. (changed setting now...) I hope i can find some software to chop the tags automagically cos i don't wanna hafta go through all the files manually thanks for the info Wish

19th April 2003, 14:42	#8
andymce Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	http://xdev.narod*****tagscan_e.htm does the trick.. i can play my files with the new version now!