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hey I figured out how to outsmart real player when I want to see the winamp vids and real player tries to grab the feed I look in the addy on the real player browser which happens to be the location addy for the video I copy it and paste it into the winamp location addy thing and there it is I am in business and I finally outsmarted real player at least on this. I still cant figure out how to get around the live365 feed problem but at least shoutcast stations provide the direct feed addys well stay cool Dave
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