Winamp DSP + None Mp3 Source + Title Generation

henele · 21st May 2003, 12:04

Sorry for the long Subject, I just couldn't get it any smaller without it becomming totaly unimformative

Basically, I would like to know whether Title information (Song, Artist etc) can be passed into the generated stream when using formats other than mp3s..

Ideally my source would be Musepack files with APEv2 tags, but I don't know if the information has to come from an ID3 source, or whether it is just transparently passed from Winamp tag parseing.

I hope that makes sense to someone

henn.

FesterHead · 21st May 2003, 16:07

I believe since non-mp3 sources do not have mp3 tags, titles won't be generated/sent when the non-mp3 source is encoded into an mp3 by the DSP.

Tom · 21st May 2003, 17:46

I think it will work but the easiest way to find out is to try it.

Tom

henele · 21st May 2003, 21:25

The only Windows machine (the eventual project hardware) I have access to at the moment is an emulated Win98se session on an iBook, which is struggling to keep up playing a file, let alone creating a stream

However, if it doesn't work I guess there is nothing stopping me adding id3 tags to the mpcs as well...

I just thought it was worth posting as people around here must be DSPing files other than mp3s

henele · 22nd May 2003, 14:49

I just hooked up an old AMD 400Mhz machine to the phoneline and installed the shoutcast software. I arranged a number of files in the playlist and streamed them out, picking up the signal on a Mac on a cable modem.

The results are as follows...

mp3, id3v1 - info sent correctly
mp3, id3v2 - info sent correctly

mpc, id3v1 - info sent correctly (woo!

)
mpc, apeV2 - info from last song displayed

mpc, id3v2 - mpc doesn't support id3v2

Conclusion
My idea is I can store my music in (to my ears) transparent mpc, then stream out in whatever format is the norm, so when bandwidth gets cheaper or streaming codecs get better, only settings in programs have to be changed, not massive re-encoding of all the music

id3 is a little limiting, but it will do for the meantime, and I guess I could always transtag later for stuff which isn't fully labled and needs to be...

Thanks to everyone for help, and to the shoutcast team for making a very sweet program

21st May 2003, 12:04	#1
henele Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5	Winamp DSP + None Mp3 Source + Title Generation Sorry for the long Subject, I just couldn't get it any smaller without it becomming totaly unimformative Basically, I would like to know whether Title information (Song, Artist etc) can be passed into the generated stream when using formats other than mp3s.. Ideally my source would be Musepack files with APEv2 tags, but I don't know if the information has to come from an ID3 source, or whether it is just transparently passed from Winamp tag parseing. I hope that makes sense to someone henn.

22nd May 2003, 14:49	#5
henele Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5	Experiment Results I just hooked up an old AMD 400Mhz machine to the phoneline and installed the shoutcast software. I arranged a number of files in the playlist and streamed them out, picking up the signal on a Mac on a cable modem. The results are as follows... mp3, id3v1 - info sent correctly mp3, id3v2 - info sent correctly mpc, id3v1 - info sent correctly (woo! ) mpc, apeV2 - info from last song displayed mpc, id3v2 - mpc doesn't support id3v2 Conclusion My idea is I can store my music in (to my ears) transparent mpc, then stream out in whatever format is the norm, so when bandwidth gets cheaper or streaming codecs get better, only settings in programs have to be changed, not massive re-encoding of all the music id3 is a little limiting, but it will do for the meantime, and I guess I could always transtag later for stuff which isn't fully labled and needs to be... Thanks to everyone for help, and to the shoutcast team for making a very sweet program

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21st May 2003, 16:07	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,108	I believe since non-mp3 sources do not have mp3 tags, titles won't be generated/sent when the non-mp3 source is encoded into an mp3 by the DSP.

21st May 2003, 17:46	#3
Tom Moderator Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 4,491	I think it will work but the easiest way to find out is to try it. Tom

21st May 2003, 21:25	#4
henele Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5	The only Windows machine (the eventual project hardware) I have access to at the moment is an emulated Win98se session on an iBook, which is struggling to keep up playing a file, let alone creating a stream However, if it doesn't work I guess there is nothing stopping me adding id3 tags to the mpcs as well... I just thought it was worth posting as people around here must be DSPing files other than mp3s