Winamp 2.9 - Video controls

Pretty_Generic · 6th April 2003, 19:24

Winamp 2.9 is superb - everything 3 should have been. However, I'd like there to be some basic video image controls, such as contrast, brightness and gamma.

Also, is there any chance of Winamp playing DVDs in the future, using an external decoder?

Savages_Wolf · 7th April 2003, 21:01

I second this post, I to would like to see some gamma and brightness / contrast option in videos... I could see this could get messy for example if it was a setting where you could select it and leave it, then there could be problems with some videos that its set for makes it look great and others two bright or something... or if there was a option to just change it to the movie that is in use / playing with winamp, that you would always have to keep setting it... I donno, just some thoughts but bottom line, I would also like to see it because i have some videos that are kinda a little dark to see and would be nice to brighten them up a bit...

Wolfy

Mgz · 8th April 2003, 03:36

I prefer an delicated software (like WinDVD,PowerDVD) with excellent DVD support (VirtualDolby Surround,etc) than a bloat winamp

Esenthiel · 8th April 2003, 21:49

Aye, I agree with Mgz. I'm sure it'd also be possible for someone just to make a plug-in to edit WinAmp 2.9 video or play DVDs. Winamp 2.9, in my opinion, is the furthest they should go as far as core features are concerned. Leave all else to plug-ins, plug-ins are what made me love WinAmp.

marianosc · 14th April 2003, 13:14

Pause on click of video screen Please

net-cruizer · 14th April 2003, 14:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Mgz
I prefer an delicated software (like WinDVD,PowerDVD) with excellent DVD support (VirtualDolby Surround,etc) than a bloat winamp

Why would that bloat Winamp? All the new stuff added as of 2.9 didn't make Winamp require anymore resources than it already used or add any type of bloat. Winamp 2.9 barely uses any resources at all.
Winamp 3 is bloated from the way it is designed, not the stuff added to it.
Winamp 2x can have tons of stuff added to it without adding bloat.
So I would sure like it to support DVDs.

Wibbler · 23rd April 2003, 16:09

I'll second the click for pause ... and could we have zoom functions too ?

It should maintain aspect ratio, and centre the image both horizontally and vertically (cutting off sides that don't fit). Just like BSPlayer does it (just in Winamp !)

Devoid · 23rd April 2003, 18:06

I like the idea of click pausing and video constast/brightness/sharpness controls, Real One has these, but it sucks in general anyway, and I'd like to see them in WinAmp. DVD playback would be entirely awsome, because winamp isn't as bloated as my other DVD player, and it likes to take over file associations of other video types when I'm not paying attention *glares*

sanosuke · 24th April 2003, 01:40

Quote:

Originally posted by net-cruizer
So I would sure like it to support DVDs.

lisensing issues...with third party drivers.

gt24 · 24th April 2003, 03:36

As for features, I remember (I don't remember where from) a feature that sped up and slowed down video. I believe it could have been from Quicktime. Eitherways, that was just plain nifty.

Most likely the above can be done with a plugin, just like a lot of video modification features.

Another suggestion is for the text in the video window to scroll. That is some long text and I don't like resizing the window, majorly, to see the FPS in the video. It should scroll!!

For the developers, I like how the installer works now (allowing you to select what components you want installed) and I feel that you can use that in the future to seperate the people screaming bloat from the people screaming for features. An idea though is to have a seperate installer for the "bloat" features, perhaps a plugin pack, for each Winamp version. That way, the modem users won't sream SLOW CONNECTION and everybody will be generally happy. Just a suggestion...

24th April 2003, 03:39

There already is Lite, Standard, and Full installers. Pick the one you want.

gt24 · 24th April 2003, 03:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Sawg
There already is Lite, Standard, and Full installers. Pick the one you want.

I know, just a suggestion. I always go for the full one anyways.

sanosuke · 24th April 2003, 04:44

it is already there y did u ask for it??
lite = no "bloat" features
standard = most features
full = more than standard (i always take standard)

gt24 · 24th April 2003, 06:01

Ok, geez, I'm sorry. If it is any consolidation, your Lite, Standard, and Full charts don't show a Video option, don't show a Library option, in other words don't show those new options that have been added that people might complain about as bloat. The chart might need updating, that or (as my suggestion was above) the extras like video can be put in a seperate installer. Either way works just fine.

I know about the different versions of downloads... I don't need multiple people telling me about it. Now that all that mess has been handled, what do you think of my (revised) suggestion?

UPDATE :: Heck, classic.winamp.com needs updated for the new Winamp. I know somebody will state that Winamp 2.9x hasn't been out all that long, or something to that effect. Just remember this is a suggestion, and I do get the message if only one person says it. Thank you.

sanosuke · 24th April 2003, 06:42

what are you talking about?? it is there...see attached. lite does not have video formats and winamp library.

winamp3 uses wasabi which is newer than what winamp2 uses. so thats y classic.winamp.com is winamp2 not winamp3.

gt24 · 24th April 2003, 06:50

Ok.. don't mean to argue at all...

Go to classic.winamp.com, click on winamp, and you have the download page...

No checkmarks indicate what versions of the player have video support. In fact, no tabs acknoledge any new features. They are out of date. So, if you are downloading, you just know that Winamp 2.91 has video... but you don't know where it has been crammed into.

I know you can see the options are not there when you download it, but by that time it is a bit too late. It would be nicer if the website showed what package had what components.

make sense now?

sanosuke · 24th April 2003, 07:11

yes definatlly...i guessed swag and i have miss understood u. that page seems outdated. no hard feeling

AtiUser · 4th May 2003, 15:12

I hope too for pause on click of the video screen.

Sawg can you note this wish in the Winamp
2x Wishlist please?

Moguta · 11th May 2003, 03:18

I don't care about pause on click either way. I just use C.

But I definitely would like to see brightness & contrast controls, in addition to making double size stick from video to video instead of always reverting back to 1x size.

And listing what features are/aren't included in Lite/Standard/Full is also a great idea.

Leecifer · 14th May 2003, 14:48

I would definately like to have brightness/contrast/saturation/gamma control in the video player.

WA 2.91 is a dream come true except for that one minor exception. Hope to see it in 2.92.

AtiUser · 26th May 2003, 19:59

Yes brightness/contrast/gamma options would be a very good addition for Winamp's
videofunction.

But I also hope for Zoom support.

Lets wait and see what Winamp 2.92 and newer releases will bring to us

$¡ñTë£ · 27th May 2003, 15:57

uuuh, almost all codecs have these controls integrated, just open the codec controls.

now cooperation between winamp and bsplayer would surely bring forth the ultimate video/audio player, but something tells me we're not gonna see this happen; one can hope though

AtiUser · 27th May 2003, 16:34

Yes thats true, but other players e.g. the zoomplayer have this feature, and its more comfortable to set brightness etc. in the player without opening any codec control.

DJ Egg · 27th May 2003, 17:36

To add more buttons to the video window
(play, stop, pause, next, previous, gamma, contrast, brightness, etc etc)
means video.bmp in the skin needs to be modified (again).
Many skinners have just updated their skins for 2.91 compatibility,
but to be suddenly told they'll need to update them again . . .

I suppose it wouldn't bother skinners who haven't already done the updating,
because they'll still only need to do it once.

Basically, if they're gonna add more buttons, then they'd better do it quick.
We don't want to upset the skinning community now, do we?

Anyway, you should all know your play, pause, stop, next and previous keyboard shortcuts by now (and at least the buttons are there in fullscreen mode).

But yes, I agree that gamma, brightness, contrast options would be nice.
Maybe via right click menu in video window (or 'triangle' menu button),
or in Prefs -> Video, or in_dshow config.

Moguta · 30th May 2003, 22:15

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
But yes, I agree that gamma, brightness, contrast options would be nice.
Maybe via right click menu in video window (or 'triangle' menu button),
or in Prefs -> Video, or in_dshow config.

Indeed, I certainly agree with that. No new buttons are needed for those video controls.

6th April 2003, 19:24	#1
Pretty_Generic Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2	Winamp 2.9 - Video controls Winamp 2.9 is superb - everything 3 should have been. However, I'd like there to be some basic video image controls, such as contrast, brightness and gamma. Also, is there any chance of Winamp playing DVDs in the future, using an external decoder?

7th April 2003, 21:01	#2
Savages_Wolf Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 50	Agree... I second this post, I to would like to see some gamma and brightness / contrast option in videos... I could see this could get messy for example if it was a setting where you could select it and leave it, then there could be problems with some videos that its set for makes it look great and others two bright or something... or if there was a option to just change it to the movie that is in use / playing with winamp, that you would always have to keep setting it... I donno, just some thoughts but bottom line, I would also like to see it because i have some videos that are kinda a little dark to see and would be nice to brighten them up a bit... Wolfy

24th April 2003, 04:44	#13
sanosuke Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,891	it is already there y did u ask for it?? lite = no "bloat" features standard = most features full = more than standard (i always take standard) Big-assed signature deleted by errr.. whats his name again??

24th April 2003, 07:11	#17
sanosuke Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,891	yes definatlly...i guessed swag and i have miss understood u. that page seems outdated. no hard feeling Big-assed signature deleted by errr.. whats his name again??

11th May 2003, 03:18	#19
Moguta Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 190	I don't care about pause on click either way. I just use C. But I definitely would like to see brightness & contrast controls, in addition to making double size stick from video to video instead of always reverting back to 1x size. And listing what features are/aren't included in Lite/Standard/Full is also a great idea. Magnatune - A role model for ALL digital music stores!

8th April 2003, 03:36	#3
Mgz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 34	I prefer an delicated software (like WinDVD,PowerDVD) with excellent DVD support (VirtualDolby Surround,etc) than a bloat winamp

8th April 2003, 21:49	#4
Esenthiel Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Harrah, OK Posts: 3	Aye, I agree with Mgz. I'm sure it'd also be possible for someone just to make a plug-in to edit WinAmp 2.9 video or play DVDs. Winamp 2.9, in my opinion, is the furthest they should go as far as core features are concerned. Leave all else to plug-ins, plug-ins are what made me love WinAmp.

14th April 2003, 13:14	#5
marianosc Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 18	Pause on click of video screen Please

23rd April 2003, 16:09	#7
Wibbler Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1	I'll second the click for pause ... and could we have zoom functions too ? It should maintain aspect ratio, and centre the image both horizontally and vertically (cutting off sides that don't fit). Just like BSPlayer does it (just in Winamp !)

23rd April 2003, 18:06	#8
Devoid Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 12	I like the idea of click pausing and video constast/brightness/sharpness controls, Real One has these, but it sucks in general anyway, and I'd like to see them in WinAmp. DVD playback would be entirely awsome, because winamp isn't as bloated as my other DVD player, and it likes to take over file associations of other video types when I'm not paying attention glares

24th April 2003, 03:36	#10
gt24 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Carrollton, Ohio Posts: 17	As for features, I remember (I don't remember where from) a feature that sped up and slowed down video. I believe it could have been from Quicktime. Eitherways, that was just plain nifty. Most likely the above can be done with a plugin, just like a lot of video modification features. Another suggestion is for the text in the video window to scroll. That is some long text and I don't like resizing the window, majorly, to see the FPS in the video. It should scroll!! For the developers, I like how the installer works now (allowing you to select what components you want installed) and I feel that you can use that in the future to seperate the people screaming bloat from the people screaming for features. An idea though is to have a seperate installer for the "bloat" features, perhaps a plugin pack, for each Winamp version. That way, the modem users won't sream SLOW CONNECTION and everybody will be generally happy. Just a suggestion...

24th April 2003, 03:39	#11
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	There already is Lite, Standard, and Full installers. Pick the one you want.

24th April 2003, 06:01	#14
gt24 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Carrollton, Ohio Posts: 17	Ok, geez, I'm sorry. If it is any consolidation, your Lite, Standard, and Full charts don't show a Video option, don't show a Library option, in other words don't show those new options that have been added that people might complain about as bloat. The chart might need updating, that or (as my suggestion was above) the extras like video can be put in a seperate installer. Either way works just fine. I know about the different versions of downloads... I don't need multiple people telling me about it. Now that all that mess has been handled, what do you think of my (revised) suggestion? UPDATE :: Heck, classic.winamp.com needs updated for the new Winamp. I know somebody will state that Winamp 2.9x hasn't been out all that long, or something to that effect. Just remember this is a suggestion, and I do get the message if only one person says it. Thank you.

24th April 2003, 06:50	#16
gt24 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Carrollton, Ohio Posts: 17	Ok.. don't mean to argue at all... Go to classic.winamp.com, click on winamp, and you have the download page... No checkmarks indicate what versions of the player have video support. In fact, no tabs acknoledge any new features. They are out of date. So, if you are downloading, you just know that Winamp 2.91 has video... but you don't know where it has been crammed into. I know you can see the options are not there when you download it, but by that time it is a bit too late. It would be nicer if the website showed what package had what components. make sense now?

4th May 2003, 15:12	#18
AtiUser Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 90	I hope too for pause on click of the video screen. Sawg can you note this wish in the Winamp 2x Wishlist please?

14th May 2003, 14:48	#20
Leecifer Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Right here, can't you see me waving? Posts: 6	I would definately like to have brightness/contrast/saturation/gamma control in the video player. WA 2.91 is a dream come true except for that one minor exception. Hope to see it in 2.92.

26th May 2003, 19:59	#21
AtiUser Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 90	Yes brightness/contrast/gamma options would be a very good addition for Winamp's videofunction. But I also hope for Zoom support. Lets wait and see what Winamp 2.92 and newer releases will bring to us

27th May 2003, 15:57	#22
$¡ñTë£ Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: my comfy chair Posts: 3	uuuh, almost all codecs have these controls integrated, just open the codec controls. now cooperation between winamp and bsplayer would surely bring forth the ultimate video/audio player, but something tells me we're not gonna see this happen; one can hope though

27th May 2003, 16:34	#23
AtiUser Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 90	Yes thats true, but other players e.g. the zoomplayer have this feature, and its more comfortable to set brightness etc. in the player without opening any codec control.

27th May 2003, 17:36	#24
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	To add more buttons to the video window (play, stop, pause, next, previous, gamma, contrast, brightness, etc etc) means video.bmp in the skin needs to be modified (again). Many skinners have just updated their skins for 2.91 compatibility, but to be suddenly told they'll need to update them again . . . I suppose it wouldn't bother skinners who haven't already done the updating, because they'll still only need to do it once. Basically, if they're gonna add more buttons, then they'd better do it quick. We don't want to upset the skinning community now, do we? Anyway, you should all know your play, pause, stop, next and previous keyboard shortcuts by now (and at least the buttons are there in fullscreen mode). But yes, I agree that gamma, brightness, contrast options would be nice. Maybe via right click menu in video window (or 'triangle' menu button), or in Prefs -> Video, or in_dshow config. Playlist -\|- Twitter

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