After upgrade to 5.02, media library = slow [FIXED]

[gtsato]

I experience the same problem with the ML. I have around 8000 songs. My machine is a new 2.8Ghz machine. I'm running 5.02. I have just started to noticed the problem after adding more songs to the list. It works fine if you choose the song from the PL. Also I have noticed that it only appears in the ML with the Artist/album view selected. If you choose Simple Media View it works fine.

[riks]

I had that problem too, but after I uninstalled Norton Antivirus Winamp works fine. No delay.

[mbchills]

fixed it

preferences - media library - library options, uncheck both Play all ... options at the top

[DeathWing]

bump.

The problem is still there in 5.03. As I said earlier, it's not that bad of a problem, and I can deal with it. But it would be nice if, whenever you guys had the time to fix it, you did.

[AnalogRoaming]

Yes... please... figure out what broke so this gets fixed in the next version. My media library is huge... so this locks up my machine for 30-60 seconds.

5.01 would just copy the ml query right to a playlist (which doesn't seem that hard to do... copy one listbox to another) and 5.02 / .03 looks like it's enqueing in a loop instead.

Winamp 5 is starting to become another Winamp 3.... and that worries me.

[DJ Egg]

Originally posted by mbchills
fixed it

preferences - media library - library options, uncheck both Play all ... options at the top

[DeathWing]

So, yeah...if you read earlier in this thread (my first post == the second post on this thread), I had already tried and noted this option. However, I explained in this post, and more thoroughly in later posts, why I didn't consider this a solution to the problem. And it is a problem, as many of us have pointed out, because these options did not have to be unchecked in 5.01 in order for the delay to disappear.

There's probably some reason this wouldn't work, but it seems like there's a pretty easy solution to this: go back to the code from 5.01 for enqueing the songs from the media library -> playlist, see what the differences are, and figure out where the inefficiency is. If you designed it in C++/perl, I could probably even do that (of course, it would take me longer, since I don't work @ Nullsoft for a living).

[arikol]

As someone mentioned, this problem persists in 5.03, was not in 5.01 and can be "fixed" by unchecking play all.
That´s not a solution, it means that the "play all" feature is BROKEN.

This may seem like a small problem, but it seriously affects usability of the program, making ML in effect, a list of songs instead of a usable MediaLibrary, I could just as well use windows explorer to open single songs.
I only have around 4500 songs, a 2000mhz processor and more RAM than you can shake a stick at, but the delay is over 3 seconds (by which time you have re-clikcked a song in frustration, causing another delay)

To cut it short, I will stay with 5.01, not letting it out on the internet (due to security vuln.) and not even consider winamp pro until this issue is resolved.

/sound_effect = "uninstalling winamp503"

[zootm]

am i the only one who can't replicate this?

i have a quite fast computer (A64 3200+), but judging by the specs of arikol's machine, i should at least notice some pause...

also, a pause may not be enough to justify moving back to an insecure version.

[DeathWing]

The delay is only apparent for very long playlists. My computer is pretty slow (P3 850), so a 900 song playlist is sufficient to create a 5 sec. delay on my comp. The longer the playlist, the longer the delay (I messed around w/ different sized playlists).

Maybe the delay is there, but you just don't realize that it's a delay. If you uninstall 5.03, install 5.01, open up a 4,000 song or so playlist, and double click one of the songs, you'll notice that it plays instantaneously. Then uninstall 5.01 and go back to 5.03 with the same playlist, and you'll notice the delay.

Another thing I noticed: if you're playing one song already, then double click another song from the media library, the display (e.g. spectrum analyzer, song time, scrolling song name, etc.) all freeze during the delay until the next song starts. This is with the default winamp skin.

[arikol]

zootm: if
"Play All Query results (starting on selected) on
doubleclick in media views"
is selected, then you should notice a pause when you doubleclick on a song in medialibrary, on your machine it would probably only be around a second, even less, with around 5000 songs in the ML
You should notice the pause anyhow, especially if you´re playing a song, then doubleclick another.
With the security issue, I agree, but I run a personal firewall and dont let winamp access the internet at all, think it should be safe, if you (or anyone else) knows better, please inform me...... don´t like security holes..

Deathwing: spot on, exactly the behaviour I get. I uninstalled 5.03 and re-installed 5.01, everything snappy and nice again, ML response is instantaneous.

[AnalogRoaming]

Try it with 20,000+ items.
30 to 60 second delay on a dual xeon 2ghz machine. Processors peg out, program freezes.

It's looping thru the ml to load the playlist window. looping thru an array would be faster. (based on my experience with developing windows apps).

[Christophe]

Try this:

With 5.03, rename gen_hotkeys.dll in the plugins folder to gen_hotkeys.dll.old and launch Winamp again and see if it takes an abnormal delay anymore.

And report back.

-Christophe

[arikol]

Cristophe, you da MAN!
Renamed gen_hotkeys.dll (on WA 5.03) like you said, worked like a charm.

Any explanation as to why/how that works? (and thereby, what the problem is)

What does gen_hotkeys.dll do, my keyboard shortcuts seem to work anyway.

So, using winamp 5.03 now! thanks for the help

[arikol]

Oh, yeah btw, I also tried copying gen_hotkeys.dll from my 5.01 installation to my 5.03 install, seems to work fine (at least it doesn´t break anything badly) and there´s no delay.
Hope that helps

[Christophe]

Right on, I'm gonna check to see what broke in gen_hotkeys to slow down the ML like this.

-Christophe

[DeathWing]

Awesome! Thanks Christophe, Winamp just became a whole lot more convenient to use...

What exactly is gen_hotkeys.dll for?

[drewbar]

It is the global hotkeys plug-in. (Control Winamp when it is not in focus). It is the Preferences > General Preferences > Global Hotkeys option screen.

[Christophe]

Ok, I found the bug in gen_hotkeys, here's the fixed version:

http://ronwarez.com/gen_hotkeys.dll (v1.3)

-Christophe

[DJ Egg]

woohoo

Praises be!

[Kickboy12]

Good Job Christophe.

[headcoat]

Where is Winamp 5.01 still available for DL?

[Kickboy12]

Winamp 5.01 is no longer supported, and has major security issues. I no longer see any problem with Winamp 5.03 now that Christophe has fixed the delay bug.

[DeathWing]

Thanks Christophe! Sorry about bothering you guys so much about this problem, but I now love winamp even more than I used to!

[arikol]

Terrific, nice to see problems resolved! Thanks Christophe

[sov1et]

I can think of two solutions for this problem...

Either have an option available to play the selected ML item without reloading the entire library back into the playlist. (Although you would need to reload the ML into the playlist each time a new file is added into ML.)

Or have a function to have the item play directly from ML (as well as all items in the ML), completely bypassing the playlist, not needing to load the item into it before it is played.

I prefer the latter.

Ever since the media library was conceived into Winamp, I stopped using the playlist. What's the point? Ml displays more detailed info and is dynamic in sorting and categorizing. ML has a playlist function in itself. There's no point to having the playlist component anymore. It seems redundant. If you wanna make mixes, just do it from the ML.

[DJ Egg]

I can think of ONE solution to this problem...

Originally posted by Christophe
Ok, I found the bug in gen_hotkeys, here's the fixed version:

http://ronwarez.com/gen_hotkeys.dll (v1.3)

-Christophe

[zootm]

Originally posted by arikol
With the security issue, I agree, but I run a personal firewall and dont let winamp access the internet at all, think it should be safe, if you (or anyone else) knows better, please inform me...... don´t like security holes..

wouldn't really be changed by firewall, it's more a malicious file, i believe.

i couldn't replicate the problem with a playlist of about 1500 files, but i guess i could just have missed the pause (given your figures).

of course, this is all moot now, since a fix has been provided

[psychotacon87]

when i installed winamp 5.03, i was freaking out that my media library was slow. it didn't do it in the initial release..and in the original, i didn't have to deselect anything. since i 'fixed' it, now only the song i selected out of my library goes into the playlist editor instead of just starting with the selected song, which i don't really like...

nullsoft, fix it.
you guys are smart.

- Henry

[siebe83]

it IS fixed!
read this thread...
or download the update patch
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=179096
the new hotkeys.dll is in it as well...

[zootm]

Originally posted by Christophe
Ok, I found the bug in gen_hotkeys, here's the fixed version:

http://ronwarez.com/gen_hotkeys.dll (v1.3)

-Christophe

note, psychotacon87, that the fix was provided in this very thread, before you even posted about it.

maybe you'd have thought of reading?

[DJ Egg]

Yes, that's why it says "[FIXED]" at the end of the topic title...

[mario0318]

Should I create a new thread for this? I know this is very old but it's the only thread I found with my specific issue

This problem appears present in my version of Winamp 5.56

My library is massive and each time i select a song from the ML the entire library is reloaded into the playlist, which slows down the play of the selected song from the ML.

The problem doesn't occur when selecting a song in the playlist since its already loaded in the program.

Again, Im not sure if there is another thread for this already or a fix but I can't find it. A user named 'sov1et' posted a comment above with the real solution to this, which is having Winamp read a song directly from the ML without needing to reload the playlist with the entire collection.

Is there a possible fix to this?

[Dexter_prog]

bump. This is happening again in 5.572

[Dexter_prog]

up .

[MarkRH]

I would start a new thread for issues related to this as the original title mentions version 5.02 and is flagged as [FIXED] so most will ignore it as being solved.

[Dexter_prog]

Done so, but no one's replying there: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....12#post2650712