Am I in the wrong?

d0rk · 13th December 2004, 05:38

Alright quick d0rk life update;

I asked a girl out the other day and she said yes (yay) heres the problem.

A friend of mine of a few years liked her before I did, asked her to a movie (she said yes) and that was pretty much it. He doesn't talk to her on the phone. I asked if he planned on asking her out and he said no because she is to young for him (she is 16). I asked her what she thought of him and she said "I dont really know who he is. We're just friends." I started to talk to her and really started to like her and the feeling was mutual. A few days later I asked her out.

I told him today at work that we are going out and he flipped. He starting telling me (through e-mail) that I am a fucking bastard and need to get out of his life and he can't believe I did this to him etc etc.

When I brought up the point that he doesn't talk to her and she didn't like him more than a friend he said that I knew he liked her and shouldn't have gone for her. He then told me he wasn't pissed that I like her and were dating, he is pissed because he liked her first.

Am I in the wrong for going for a girl that I liked even though he liked her before me but she didn't like him?

Brian

MStar · 13th December 2004, 05:39

Not at all.
He missed the boat, he needs to move on.

ShyShy · 13th December 2004, 05:52

Your friend sounds like the young one. He was the one that didn't see the potential relationship through. And I'm assuming you asked how each person how he/she felt about the other before asking the girl out. If you did, then you have done nothing wrong. Your friend specifically stated that he wasn't interested in her, and more than likely is feeling possesive.

If he's a good friend, give him some time to come around. After all, you can't live your life for your friends.

Reminds me of a situation the hubby was in while we were still "talking". His best friend got pissed cause the girl that hung out with them was interested in Hugh and not him. Hugh had flat out told her previously that he wasn't interested. Best mate got upset cause girl wouldn't acknowledge him, so he punched Hugh in the stomach one day, accusing him of stealing her away.

God damn soap operas.

Smeggle · 13th December 2004, 06:01

Quote:

Originally posted by MStar
Not at all.
He missed the boat, he needs to move on.

Agrees

Mrs_Mia_Wallace · 13th December 2004, 06:02

You are not wrong, the old "I liked her first" issue doesn't make her like him more because of that point. She just likes him as a friend and he stated she was too young for him and he's not interested, that's pretty clear to me.

You did nothing wrong and he'll calm down eventually.

Oh, and congrats on asking that girl out, good luck!

Mia

DragonSon · 13th December 2004, 07:15

What everone else said. You've done nothing wrong.

aFfLiCtEd · 13th December 2004, 07:27

I look at it like this ...

...Zero fumbles the football! d0rk recovers! He's headed for the end zone! . . . Will he SCORE??

Stay tuned . . . We'll be right back after these messages.

shakey_snake · 13th December 2004, 07:38

the only wrong thing you've done d0rk, is claiming someone who would flip out on you like that under these circumstances as a friend.

Atmo · 13th December 2004, 07:45

I dont think you've done anything wrong. If it was someone he'd been married to, or been seeing for a long time it could be a bit of an uncomfortable situation for him, but one date where nothing happened...no way.

He's most likely just jealous because he couldnt 'have her for himself', and if he's willing to give up a friendship that's lasted a few years over a girl he went on one date with, then he's probably not worth having as a friend.

Twilightseer · 13th December 2004, 08:35

d0rk,

Ask the girl out, have a great time and forget about that loser, he had an opprtunity, he ruined it, too bad for him, end of story

d0rk · 13th December 2004, 09:46

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it.

CraigF · 13th December 2004, 09:54

Quote:

Originally posted by aFfLiCtEd
I look at it like this ...

...Zero fumbles the football! d0rk recovers! He's headed for the end zone! . . . Will he SCORE??

Stay tuned . . . We'll be right back after these messages.

bestest reply EVAR!

Mr Jones · 13th December 2004, 10:21

dork, ask yourself this question...

At the end of the day, who would you rather sleep with?

Your hairy arsed male friend with the insecurity problems.

Or

The sexy, slinky, curvey chick with lady bumps in all the right places who obviously wants a man of your virility.

Once you have that clear in your head, the way forward should be simple.

d0rk · 13th December 2004, 10:23

<3 Jones

The cool thing about her is she is really into computers and computer gaming

She is taking A+ class right now...two geeks together awwww

Blayze · 13th December 2004, 14:30

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
<3 Jones

The cool thing about her is she is really into computers and computer gaming She is taking A+ class right now...two geeks together awwww

another match made in Virtual Heaven..good luck with it!

As for your friend, guess he didn't know what he had until
it was gone *wasn't that an old Cinderella song, gotta love
the hairbands..anywayyyyyy* LONG GONE apparently.

PrintScrn · 13th December 2004, 16:03

ITS ALL YOUR FUCKING FAULT!

/me goes against the crowd

CaboWaboAddict · 13th December 2004, 16:10

^I agree!

I'm fuckin' pissed at you too! You didn't even ASK me if I loved her first. Don't come to Atlanta, or we'll hafta open up a big can o' woop-ass!

Pixelcraft · 13th December 2004, 21:59

What the hell d0rk? I thought you were getting married.

Guess I've been a little slow on the updates...

mark · 13th December 2004, 22:00

dork is still in his mid teens AFAIK

Pixelcraft · 13th December 2004, 22:01

uhmm.....I see

lol must have been thinking of someone else

d0rk · 13th December 2004, 23:21

Yeah im only 18

sgtfuzzbubble011 · 13th December 2004, 23:59

Congrats, d0rk.

When you two hook up, be sure to post some pics.

Myxomatosis · 14th December 2004, 02:11

Did someone say my name?

hgnis · 14th December 2004, 04:26

hmm....jailbait. *gasp*

d0rk · 14th December 2004, 04:37

its only 2 years and its only illegal if we have sex and thats not going to happen so...hah

^_^

GqSkrub · 14th December 2004, 05:33

Hmmm... I consulted the rule book on this one. There IS a rule on friends not being able to date someone another friend likes. The reason for this is to prevent one-up-manship that destroys friendships. If he is going for her.. and you cockblock him... in the rule book you are a fucking bastard.

However, there are stipulations. You are not a fucking bastard under the following conditions:
1. If he has moved his interests to another girl
2. He liked her but she dated someone else and then they broke up
3. If you told him you were going after her and he put up no fight
4. She asks YOU out. (In this case it's best to tell the friend before accepting)
5. You have the opportunity for sex. (interest may only be shown AFTER the opportunity has presented itself.)
6. Random circumstance beyond your control forces you together (arranged marriages)

That's what I found in the rulebook. SO according to this, you did not tell him you were going to ask her out, but you DID ask if he was going to ask HER out. Technically, you have not fulfilled stipulation #3. Obviously though, your friend is not as smooth with the ladies as you are, but he did let you know that he liked her therefore what you did is considered stealing (even if he takes his damn time). Even though she DOES like you, there is no guarantee that the relationship will last as opposed the relationship you've built over the years with your friend. You have effectively traded a bro for a hoe. You SHOULD have made known your intentions of askin her out. If you DID, this is a moot point and your friend needs to understand the rules and that he has lost his chance and next time he shouldn't take his fucking time, otherwise... if he's not a close friend i'd say whatever. If he IS a close friend you can:

1. buy him a drink
2. hook him up with someone else
3. apologize
4. duel for her (i suggest non-lethal boxing match).

If he's smaller than you i suggest number 4. otherwise i'd suggest number 3. Ultimately it depends on whether you want to keep him as your friend. BUt from what you have said you have done your friend wrong. You fucking bastard

(pun intended)

mark · 14th December 2004, 07:40

if he's taller go for 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4!

DragonSon · 14th December 2004, 09:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Pixelcraft
What the hell d0rk? I thought you were getting married.

Guess I've been a little slow on the updates...

It wouldn't happen to be me you were thinking of was it?

Cognition · 14th December 2004, 12:34

Actually I think d0rk is getting married but this thread proves he's cheating so he doesn't want you to know.

Wolfgang · 14th December 2004, 12:43

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
its only 2 years and its only illegal if we have sex and thats not going to happen so...hah

^_^

So what if it's illegal? If you both want it and she's old enough (I reckon 16/17 is the boundary) and you're sensible about it, ignore the law. Anyway, you're not anywhere near that yet I guess. How are things going with her?

Cognition · 14th December 2004, 12:50

Or move here where the legal age is 16.

xzxzzx · 14th December 2004, 15:34

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
its only 2 years and its only illegal if we have sex and thats not going to happen so...hah

^_^

Depends on your state. Where do you live?

(Why do I know this off the top of my head?)

d0rk · 15th December 2004, 06:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolfgang
So what if it's illegal? If you both want it and she's old enough (I reckon 16/17 is the boundary) and you're sensible about it, ignore the law. Anyway, you're not anywhere near that yet I guess. How are things going with her?

We both dont want to anyway but things are going really well.

Quote:

Originally posted by xzxzzx
Depends on your state. Where do you live?

(Why do I know this off the top of my head?)

North Dakota. Legal age is 18, 16 with parents consent

Update also; the friend is over it and hes talking to me now

Thanks for the support everyone.

Mattress · 15th December 2004, 06:53

congrats on the new relationship, d0rk

xzxzzx · 15th December 2004, 13:48

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
North Dakota. Legal age is 18, 16 with parents consent

Actually, it's 18, if you're 18 or older, otherwise it's 15. And, uh, parental consent has no bearing, not that I can really imagine how that would go ("Ms. Jones? Is it OK for me to have sex with your daughter? It is? Great. Can you just sign this document here? Ok, thanks.")

Raz · 15th December 2004, 15:22

Quote:

Originally posted by d0rk
We both dont want to anyway

Of course you don't.

Talbain · 15th December 2004, 18:36

Fight Club becomes personal? Hehe. Anyways, if I read your post right, yeah, he's in the wrong.

d0rk · 15th December 2004, 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by xzxzzx
Actually, it's 18, if you're 18 or older, otherwise it's 15. And, uh, parental consent has no bearing, not that I can really imagine how that would go ("Ms. Jones? Is it OK for me to have sex with your daughter? It is? Great. Can you just sign this document here? Ok, thanks.")

<3

"Yeah uh I was kinda wondering if it would be alright with you if I uh...how do I say this...pork your daughter?"

cyu · 15th December 2004, 21:06

Oh make sure you get on her good ladder unlike your friend who has fallen victim to the friends ladder.

d0rk · 25th January 2005, 04:31

Well that was a short relationship. She realized shes not ready for one and ended it. It was kinda mutual but more her side.

Oh well, no regrets.

13th December 2004, 05:38	#1
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Am I in the wrong? Alright quick d0rk life update; I asked a girl out the other day and she said yes (yay) heres the problem. A friend of mine of a few years liked her before I did, asked her to a movie (she said yes) and that was pretty much it. He doesn't talk to her on the phone. I asked if he planned on asking her out and he said no because she is to young for him (she is 16). I asked her what she thought of him and she said "I dont really know who he is. We're just friends." I started to talk to her and really started to like her and the feeling was mutual. A few days later I asked her out. I told him today at work that we are going out and he flipped. He starting telling me (through e-mail) that I am a fucking bastard and need to get out of his life and he can't believe I did this to him etc etc. When I brought up the point that he doesn't talk to her and she didn't like him more than a friend he said that I knew he liked her and shouldn't have gone for her. He then told me he wasn't pissed that I like her and were dating, he is pissed because he liked her first. Am I in the wrong for going for a girl that I liked even though he liked her before me but she didn't like him? Brian I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

13th December 2004, 07:15	#6
DragonSon Fears the boots Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,445	What everone else said. You've done nothing wrong. Moderatio est figmentum No Idols, No Heroes, No Leaders.....Just Pure Inner Strength

13th December 2004, 07:38	#8
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,313	the only wrong thing you've done d0rk, is claiming someone who would flip out on you like that under these circumstances as a friend. elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

13th December 2004, 07:45	#9
Atmo The Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 9,400	I dont think you've done anything wrong. If it was someone he'd been married to, or been seeing for a long time it could be a bit of an uncomfortable situation for him, but one date where nothing happened...no way. He's most likely just jealous because he couldnt 'have her for himself', and if he's willing to give up a friendship that's lasted a few years over a girl he went on one date with, then he's probably not worth having as a friend. :Psykotech:

13th December 2004, 09:46	#11
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it. I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

13th December 2004, 05:39	#2
MStar Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hardcore Heaven Posts: 1,491	Not at all. He missed the boat, he needs to move on.

13th December 2004, 05:52	#3
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Your friend sounds like the young one. He was the one that didn't see the potential relationship through. And I'm assuming you asked how each person how he/she felt about the other before asking the girl out. If you did, then you have done nothing wrong. Your friend specifically stated that he wasn't interested in her, and more than likely is feeling possesive. If he's a good friend, give him some time to come around. After all, you can't live your life for your friends. Reminds me of a situation the hubby was in while we were still "talking". His best friend got pissed cause the girl that hung out with them was interested in Hugh and not him. Hugh had flat out told her previously that he wasn't interested. Best mate got upset cause girl wouldn't acknowledge him, so he punched Hugh in the stomach one day, accusing him of stealing her away. God damn soap operas.

13th December 2004, 06:02	#5
Mrs_Mia_Wallace has a crush on Bilbo (Forum Queen) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: The starting points at a racetrack. Posts: 3,060	You are not wrong, the old "I liked her first" issue doesn't make her like him more because of that point. She just likes him as a friend and he stated she was too young for him and he's not interested, that's pretty clear to me. You did nothing wrong and he'll calm down eventually. Oh, and congrats on asking that girl out, good luck! Mia

13th December 2004, 07:27	#7
aFfLiCtEd Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Over Here Posts: 876	I look at it like this ... ...Zero fumbles the football! d0rk recovers! He's headed for the end zone! . . . Will he SCORE?? Stay tuned . . . We'll be right back after these messages.

13th December 2004, 08:35	#10
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	d0rk, Ask the girl out, have a great time and forget about that loser, he had an opprtunity, he ruined it, too bad for him, end of story

13th December 2004, 10:21	#13
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	dork, ask yourself this question... At the end of the day, who would you rather sleep with? Your hairy arsed male friend with the insecurity problems. Or The sexy, slinky, curvey chick with lady bumps in all the right places who obviously wants a man of your virility. Once you have that clear in your head, the way forward should be simple.

13th December 2004, 10:23	#14
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	<3 Jones The cool thing about her is she is really into computers and computer gaming She is taking A+ class right now...two geeks together awwww I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

13th December 2004, 16:03	#16
PrintScrn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 238	ITS ALL YOUR FUCKING FAULT! /me goes against the crowd

13th December 2004, 16:10	#17
CaboWaboAddict Forum Sot (Major Dude) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Marietta, Ga. U.S.A. Posts: 3,916	^I agree! I'm fuckin' pissed at you too! You didn't even ASK me if I loved her first. Don't come to Atlanta, or we'll hafta open up a big can o' woop-ass! Idiot's Advocate My site (under construction)

13th December 2004, 21:59	#18
Pixelcraft Wildly Confused (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,204	What the hell d0rk? I thought you were getting married. Guess I've been a little slow on the updates... "It's like saying give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton, and of course that's not true, give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become...whoever; he doesn't become us." - Roger Waters

13th December 2004, 22:00	#19
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	dork is still in his mid teens AFAIK

13th December 2004, 22:01	#20
Pixelcraft Wildly Confused (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,204	uhmm.....I see lol must have been thinking of someone else "It's like saying give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton, and of course that's not true, give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become...whoever; he doesn't become us." - Roger Waters

13th December 2004, 23:21	#21
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Yeah im only 18 I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

13th December 2004, 23:59	#22
sgtfuzzbubble011 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 60,839	Congrats, d0rk. When you two hook up, be sure to post some pics.

14th December 2004, 02:11	#23
Myxomatosis aka bRiAnFuRY Fuck it dude... let's go bowling. (Major dud) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,162	Did someone say my name? Alex Jones: Do you want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left? What a bunch of garbage; liberal democrat, conservative, republican. It's all there to control you! Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job of Slavery, Incorporated! The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it, do you got me?

14th December 2004, 04:26	#24
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,127	hmm....jailbait. gasp I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

14th December 2004, 04:37	#25
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	its only 2 years and its only illegal if we have sex and thats not going to happen so...hah ^_^ I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

14th December 2004, 05:33	#26
GqSkrub Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lancaster Pennsylvania Posts: 897	Hmmm... I consulted the rule book on this one. There IS a rule on friends not being able to date someone another friend likes. The reason for this is to prevent one-up-manship that destroys friendships. If he is going for her.. and you cockblock him... in the rule book you are a fucking bastard. However, there are stipulations. You are not a fucking bastard under the following conditions: 1. If he has moved his interests to another girl 2. He liked her but she dated someone else and then they broke up 3. If you told him you were going after her and he put up no fight 4. She asks YOU out. (In this case it's best to tell the friend before accepting) 5. You have the opportunity for sex. (interest may only be shown AFTER the opportunity has presented itself.) 6. Random circumstance beyond your control forces you together (arranged marriages) That's what I found in the rulebook. SO according to this, you did not tell him you were going to ask her out, but you DID ask if he was going to ask HER out. Technically, you have not fulfilled stipulation #3. Obviously though, your friend is not as smooth with the ladies as you are, but he did let you know that he liked her therefore what you did is considered stealing (even if he takes his damn time). Even though she DOES like you, there is no guarantee that the relationship will last as opposed the relationship you've built over the years with your friend. You have effectively traded a bro for a hoe. You SHOULD have made known your intentions of askin her out. If you DID, this is a moot point and your friend needs to understand the rules and that he has lost his chance and next time he shouldn't take his fucking time, otherwise... if he's not a close friend i'd say whatever. If he IS a close friend you can: 1. buy him a drink 2. hook him up with someone else 3. apologize 4. duel for her (i suggest non-lethal boxing match). If he's smaller than you i suggest number 4. otherwise i'd suggest number 3. Ultimately it depends on whether you want to keep him as your friend. BUt from what you have said you have done your friend wrong. You fucking bastard (pun intended) No sig here folks.

14th December 2004, 07:40	#27
mark Forum King Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Norn Ir'nd, leek... Posts: 6,287	if he's taller go for 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4!

14th December 2004, 12:34	#29
Cognition Some Random Guy (Major Dude) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 1,245	Actually I think d0rk is getting married but this thread proves he's cheating so he doesn't want you to know.

14th December 2004, 12:50	#31
Cognition Some Random Guy (Major Dude) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 1,245	Or move here where the legal age is 16.

15th December 2004, 06:53	#34
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	congrats on the new relationship, d0rk Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

15th December 2004, 18:36	#37
Talbain Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 180	Fight Club becomes personal? Hehe. Anyways, if I read your post right, yeah, he's in the wrong.

15th December 2004, 21:06	#39
cyu Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 1,617	Oh make sure you get on her good ladder unlike your friend who has fallen victim to the friends ladder.

25th January 2005, 04:31	#40
d0rk I contribute nothing. (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Virgacalementoflagantionio Posts: 3,030	Well that was a short relationship. She realized shes not ready for one and ended it. It was kinda mutual but more her side. Oh well, no regrets. I came for the hatred. I stayed for the ballbag.

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