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maristel · 28th February 2005, 13:29

Hi all. I am a new forum member. Just got a CD burner. I have winamp 5 and also have NERO softwear. I downloaded a couple of songs from a friends computer and saved them to my hard drive. They are in MP3 format. I wanted to copy them to a cd but I don`t know if they will then play in a regular cd in a car. I think someone told me they had to be converted to .wav before???? I was able to backup my documents, pictures and other important papers from my hard drive to a CD (I lost all my docs once and my tech suggested I get a cb burner and copy my files for safekeeping)

The question I have here is how to go about using all this stuff. I`m sorry, I`m sure it`s been posted somewhere before but if you could tell me again or redirect me to posts where all this stuff is explained, I would be greatful.

Question: How to copy songs to a cd that are in mp3 format. Do they have to be changed to wav format to play in a car CD??? My friend got his car stolen last year and all the cds we had bought over the years were stolen along with it. I might be able to borrow a few cds I had from friends and copy them, but for now I would like to try a few sites they have where you can do it at home. Thank you kindly for your input. I have read the pinned posts at the top but I`m still very lost here. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Maristel (newbie)

gaekwad2 · 28th February 2005, 14:25

No, they have to be burned as Audio-CD.

Winamp can do it, as well as Nero.

They have to be decoded but wav files burnt on a CD-ROM can't be read by normal CD players either.

If you want to copy CDs you shouldn't use mp3, it will always lead to loss in quality. Rip to uncompressed wav or to a lossless format (like flac: encoder for ripping with Winamp, input plugin(needed to burn as well)), if you want 1000% exact copies use EAC to rip a CD Image (IMG button) and burn a copy using the WRI button (setting up EAC can be a bit difficult but there are a lot of online tutorials).

maristel · 28th February 2005, 17:52

Thank you for your reply. I guess I have allot to learn before I can get through all this. What I am looking to do today if I can is copy 3 songs I have on my computer to my CD so I can play them in the car CD player. I know they play easily on the computer because the computer accepts most formats. My sister has a bit of her music on her computer and wants to send me some by email or whatever. What format must it be in to be able to copy it to a cd and play it in the car? If it is not in the right format, how do I change it? I know she has allot of mp3s but I don`t have an mp3 player. If she sends me things in mp3, how can I change this to be able to copy it to a cd and play them in the car?

Thank you for your kind replies. I notice that there are sites where you can download music by paying so much as a one time fee or once a month or something like that. I notice that some sites offer free downloads for you to try before you buy but the ones I saw were all in mp3 format. Can you offer suggestions here??? You may pm me also with the information if you wish. THanks in advance.

I know these are allot of questions. I will continue searching the forum but most of this is still so foreign to me. Thanks.

Maristel

gaekwad2 · 28th February 2005, 18:36

As said before, you can get those songs on an audio cd with Winamp or Nero.

With Winamp open the media library (press alt-l or right-click on an emty space in the Winamp window and choose it from the menu), select your cd-r drive from the left-hand list (if it isn't there double-click on Devices), insert a blank cd-r into the drive, press add and select the songs you want to burn (you should add a few more, up to 80 minutes, so the space on the cd doesn't get wasted), then press burn.

They don't have to be converted first, winamp can turn any format it can play (except wma, blame Microsoft for that one) into audio cd tracks.

maristel · 28th February 2005, 20:43

Will they play in a regular CD player in the car if it doesn`t have an mp3 player??? Thanks

Nunzio390 · 28th February 2005, 20:48

Quote:

Originally posted by maristel
Will they play in a regular CD player in the car if it doesn`t have an mp3 player??? Thanks

gaekwad already gave you that answer (more than once)...

Quote:

Originally posted by gaekwad2
No, they have to be burned as Audio-CD.
Winamp can do it, as well as Nero...

As said before, you can get those songs on an audio cd with Winamp or Nero...

...They don't have to be converted first, winamp can turn any format it can play (except wma, blame Microsoft for that one) into audio cd tracks.

It is an audio CD, not a data CD. Therefore of course it'll play in a regular CD player... in any CD player, and not just in your car. :/

maristel · 28th February 2005, 22:13

THank you for your reply. I realize you said that a few times and I didn`t mean to make you repeat it, I guess I didn`t know what it meant since I`m very new at this and don`t understand the lingo as well. I`m pretty computer literate but when it comes to the burner and NERO and WINAMP, I have Nero installed with the burner and Winamp from downloading off the internet. I will try to muddle through the best I can. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Maristel

Nunzio390 · 28th February 2005, 22:46

There was never any inconvenience, so don't feel that way. This forum and the people that post here do so in order to help others like yourself. All you really needed to do was read through gaekwad's replies a little more closely.

And now that you know the distinction between a data CD and an audio CD, you won't have to "muddle" through anything any longer.

JonnyMac · 28th February 2005, 23:11

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Nunzio390 · 28th February 2005, 23:27

@ maristel...

See how helpful some people can be?
JonnyMac has provided you with a plethora of helpful guides for a newbie's first-time experience with Winamp. What more could you want or ask for?

LOL, JM...
Good going!

JonnyMac · 28th February 2005, 23:41

Yup, thanks

I have updated the list with two new links.

maristel · 1st March 2005, 01:07

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonnyMac
[B]As far as Winamp is concerned, here are some helpful links to get you started...

Thank you JM for those wonderful links. Much appreciated
Maristel

maristel · 1st March 2005, 01:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Nunzio390
@ maristel...

See how helpful some people can be?
JonnyMac has provided you with a plethora of helpful guides for a newbie's first-time experience with Winamp. What more could you want or ask for?

LOL, JM...
Good going!

And he is really nice and polite about it too and seems to understand that a newbie is called a newbie because she/he doesn`t know much. If I knew all the answers, I wouldn`t need to come to the forum in the first place.
Maristel

Nunzio390 · 1st March 2005, 01:31

Yes Maristel, JM is a great guy and very helpful indeed. I've already proposed marriage to him, but unfortunately he declined.

Anyway, I hope you have everything you need to know now. If not, feel free to always post again in these forums if you encounter any problems.

Happy Winamping!

JonnyMac · 1st March 2005, 02:10

Thanks maristel!

28th February 2005, 13:29	#1
maristel Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 10	Very Newbie Hi all. I am a new forum member. Just got a CD burner. I have winamp 5 and also have NERO softwear. I downloaded a couple of songs from a friends computer and saved them to my hard drive. They are in MP3 format. I wanted to copy them to a cd but I don`t know if they will then play in a regular cd in a car. I think someone told me they had to be converted to .wav before???? I was able to backup my documents, pictures and other important papers from my hard drive to a CD (I lost all my docs once and my tech suggested I get a cb burner and copy my files for safekeeping) The question I have here is how to go about using all this stuff. I`m sorry, I`m sure it`s been posted somewhere before but if you could tell me again or redirect me to posts where all this stuff is explained, I would be greatful. Question: How to copy songs to a cd that are in mp3 format. Do they have to be changed to wav format to play in a car CD??? My friend got his car stolen last year and all the cds we had bought over the years were stolen along with it. I might be able to borrow a few cds I had from friends and copy them, but for now I would like to try a few sites they have where you can do it at home. Thank you kindly for your input. I have read the pinned posts at the top but I`m still very lost here. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Maristel (newbie)

28th February 2005, 14:25	#2
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,149	No, they have to be burned as Audio-CD. Winamp can do it, as well as Nero. They have to be decoded but wav files burnt on a CD-ROM can't be read by normal CD players either. If you want to copy CDs you shouldn't use mp3, it will always lead to loss in quality. Rip to uncompressed wav or to a lossless format (like flac: encoder for ripping with Winamp, input plugin(needed to burn as well)), if you want 1000% exact copies use EAC to rip a CD Image (IMG button) and burn a copy using the WRI button (setting up EAC can be a bit difficult but there are a lot of online tutorials). Fuck this place.

28th February 2005, 18:36	#4
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,149	As said before, you can get those songs on an audio cd with Winamp or Nero. With Winamp open the media library (press alt-l or right-click on an emty space in the Winamp window and choose it from the menu), select your cd-r drive from the left-hand list (if it isn't there double-click on Devices), insert a blank cd-r into the drive, press add and select the songs you want to burn (you should add a few more, up to 80 minutes, so the space on the cd doesn't get wasted), then press burn. They don't have to be converted first, winamp can turn any format it can play (except wma, blame Microsoft for that one) into audio cd tracks. Fuck this place.

28th February 2005, 20:43	#5
maristel Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 10	Thank you kindly Will they play in a regular CD player in the car if it doesn`t have an mp3 player??? Thanks

28th February 2005, 22:13	#7
maristel Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 10	Thanks THank you for your reply. I realize you said that a few times and I didn`t mean to make you repeat it, I guess I didn`t know what it meant since I`m very new at this and don`t understand the lingo as well. I`m pretty computer literate but when it comes to the burner and NERO and WINAMP, I have Nero installed with the burner and Winamp from downloading off the internet. I will try to muddle through the best I can. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maristel

28th February 2005, 17:52	#3
maristel Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 10	Thank you for your reply. I guess I have allot to learn before I can get through all this. What I am looking to do today if I can is copy 3 songs I have on my computer to my CD so I can play them in the car CD player. I know they play easily on the computer because the computer accepts most formats. My sister has a bit of her music on her computer and wants to send me some by email or whatever. What format must it be in to be able to copy it to a cd and play it in the car? If it is not in the right format, how do I change it? I know she has allot of mp3s but I don`t have an mp3 player. If she sends me things in mp3, how can I change this to be able to copy it to a cd and play them in the car? Thank you for your kind replies. I notice that there are sites where you can download music by paying so much as a one time fee or once a month or something like that. I notice that some sites offer free downloads for you to try before you buy but the ones I saw were all in mp3 format. Can you offer suggestions here??? You may pm me also with the information if you wish. THanks in advance. I know these are allot of questions. I will continue searching the forum but most of this is still so foreign to me. Thanks. Maristel

28th February 2005, 22:46	#8
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,590	There was never any inconvenience, so don't feel that way. This forum and the people that post here do so in order to help others like yourself. All you really needed to do was read through gaekwad's replies a little more closely. And now that you know the distinction between a data CD and an audio CD, you won't have to "muddle" through anything any longer.

28th February 2005, 23:11	#9
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Tips for getting the most out of skins, adding additional features, adding modern skin style enhancements for Classic Skins and some links to third party skin sites. Repeat Playlist or Repeat Single Track. Winamp can be set to repeat the entire playlist or just one track. gaekwad2's Winamp CD ripping guide DJEgg's Default Plug-ins/Component List .and. Installation Options Guide “What is this file in the Winamp directory?” \| “What is this install option for?” Our forum hero DJ Egg had made a very nice guide to Winamp's plug-ins/components, various files and installation options. Most Requested Features/Plug-ins Find a tweak, workaround or alternative for commonly requested features. Winamp 5 Wishlist Just because it is in the Wishlist, that does not mean it will be implemented. However, it is a good place to check if your wish has already been requested and maybe find a good workaround/alternative. Winamp Easter Eggs Easter Eggs are a hidden novelty or feature that programmers have put in their respective software. Winamp has a few Upgrading from Previous Versions? Concerned about upgrading from 2.x to 5.x? Guide to "sidegrading" from Winamp3 to Winamp 5 Outside Guides/Information* Zeropaid.com: WINAMP Remote BETA - a guide to the new P2P music streaming feature You may also want to have a look at the Setup & Basics FAQ from the Winamp Remote section of the forums. If you need support or have questions on the setup and/or use of Winamp remote, please post in the Winamp Remote section for the forums. 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28th February 2005, 23:27	#10
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,590	@ maristel... See how helpful some people can be? JonnyMac has provided you with a plethora of helpful guides for a newbie's first-time experience with Winamp. What more could you want or ask for? LOL, JM... Good going!

28th February 2005, 23:41	#11
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,343	Yup, thanks I have updated the list with two new links.

1st March 2005, 01:07	#12
maristel Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 10	[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonnyMac [B]As far as Winamp is concerned, here are some helpful links to get you started... Thank you JM for those wonderful links. Much appreciated Maristel

1st March 2005, 01:31	#14
Nunzio390 Nugatory Aluminator Look it up Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tharsis Ridge (Martian lowlands) Posts: 8,590	Yes Maristel, JM is a great guy and very helpful indeed. I've already proposed marriage to him, but unfortunately he declined. Anyway, I hope you have everything you need to know now. If not, feel free to always post again in these forums if you encounter any problems. Happy Winamping!

1st March 2005, 02:10	#15
JonnyMac Moderator Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 14,343	Thanks maristel!

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