Problems with seeking in songs

timmeah4 · 3rd June 2005, 23:39

Hi

You've probably already covered this error before, but the latest version of Winamp (5.091) crashes every time I try to seek to a part in a song, is there a work around? Am I the only one experiencing this?

The last version of Winamp works fine, but Winamp 5.091..... I've just recently formatted my PC, pretty much the only things installed at the moment is Winamp, Firefox and MSN Messenger...

Thanks

jmatthews112 · 4th June 2005, 00:49

http://www.winamp.com/player

5.092 available as of late last week

make sure you do clean install

what are your system specs[?

what types of files are you trying to play?

timmeah4 · 4th June 2005, 02:08

Ok, I got the latest Winamp 5.092 and I still have the same problem.

To be more precise, seeking *sometimes* crashes Winamp 5 when I am playing an mp3 off my local harddrive, and seeking *always* crashes Winamp 5 when I am playing a song from a mapped network drive.

I have 3 computers, my Laptop, my PC and my Server. My server is where I store all my files. Thats why i want to be able to play music of a network drive. I have just recently upgraded my PC (I got it free, so dont payout the fact it has a prescott core). I did a fresh install of windows XP SP2. I have the following system specs:

P4 3.2GHz
1 gig of ram
and currently a shithouse intel graphics, I'm waiting for the G70.

I only play mp3 files.

Hey, I Just realised, Prescott's got DEP, should I turn that off, would that be causing any problems?

timmeah4 · 4th June 2005, 02:17

To answer my own question, NO, turning off DEP did not fix my problem.

siebe83 · 4th June 2005, 10:24

Do you get any error messages? If so, please post them here.

Maybe try the DirectSound output tweaks.

Please provide full system specs (instructions to be found under the link jmat posted).

timmeah4 · 4th June 2005, 12:43

Phoor!, ok then, let me get to it!:

Intel Pentium 4 540 (Prescott) 3.20GHz

Hewlett-Packard 0968h Mobo with,
BIOS revision: 786C1 v01.05
BIOS release date: 06/16/2004
Chipset Intel i915P/i915G rev. B1

1024MB DDR-SDRAM 200Mhz 3,3,3,8

Windows XP Professional SP2 (Build 2600)
DirectX: 9.0c

Graphics: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.3924

Sound: SoundMAX Digital Audio
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.4070

Exact Problem:
Seeking in an mp3 causes winamp 5.091 and 5.092 to crash. Occasionally it doesn't occur the first time i seek, but it will always happen if a seek a few times, I have problems very much like what is mentioned in the following unanswered thread:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=216683

In addition, when Winamp does die, it jumps to taking up around 50% of the CPU. The following is what is stated in the error message, when Winamp does crash gracefully:

AppName: winamp.exe AppVer: 5.0.0.9 ModName: in_wm.dll
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00014407

Hopefully this info helps out! Thanks!

siebe83 · 4th June 2005, 13:04

There have been several threads where Winamp 5.092 would freeze on seeking, but as far as I know you're the first one who actually gets an error message.

I don't know why in_wm.dll would crash when you're playing an mp3 file. That shouldn't happen. in_wm.dll is used for playback of WMA files.
I do know there's another bug in 5.092, also seemingly unrelated to in_wm.dll but it appeared to be in_wm.dll at fault (here). That bug has been fixed in the latest internal builds (not available to the public yet). So maybe what you're experiencing is a side-effect of that bug or another bug in in_wm.dll which will be fixed in the next version as well.

Anyway, if you don't have any WMA files, you can just disable in_wm.dll by renaming it to in_wm.off while Winamp is closed (or just delete it). You can find the file in C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins.

timmeah4 · 4th June 2005, 13:22

I love you (not in a gay way), changing that dll fixed my seeking problems!!! AWESOME!, thanks HEAPS!

BTW: if anyone knows how to map a network drive to a directory.. that would be awesome too, but I'll leave this Q for a MS newsgroup.

siebe83 · 4th June 2005, 13:31

Glad it helped and you're welcome

I dunno about mapping network drives to a directory

loveisweakness · 9th June 2005, 21:05

yay
this helped me too

as for networking a drive to a directory, not sure how to just have it show as a directory, but to mount it as it's own drive, go to the network places, the computer, then right click on whatever folder and map it as a network drive, and it'll pop up
not sure if that helps or not, or if you've already done that

Andaq · 21st June 2005, 11:21

Quote:

Originally posted by siebe83
There have been several threads where Winamp 5.092 would freeze on seeking, but as far as I know you're the first one who actually gets an error message.

Ehmmm, I posted a bug report just *the day after* you wrote this ;D (you wrote on the 4th, I wrote on the 5th of June...)
See here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=218058

Am I right if I understood that in_wm.dll is required to be in use even for non-.WMA files only for copyright (DRM) problems?

siebe83 · 21st June 2005, 15:21

Yeah, I noticed.

It seems to be something with in_wm.dll, I dunno what it is. I had hoped the problem would no longer occur with 5.093, but apparently it does... Hopefully the developers will look into it.

As for your second question... What I understood from Benski's post, is that in_wm.dll needs to be active all the time when it's installed to allow playback of DRM-protected wma files. But in_wm.dll is only needed for wma files. So if you don't have any wma files you can safely disable in_wm.dll as I described above.

Andaq · 21st June 2005, 15:32

The fact is that I *have* some .WMA… (but not DRM-protected)
[Is it right in English to say "The fact is that etc. etc." ;D ?]

siebe83 · 21st June 2005, 15:41

I'm not a native speaker myself so I couldn't say

(sounds ok to me though...)

You could give this old in_wm.dll version a try (v2.03). It's the version that came with Winamp 5.08d: no restrictions in output plugin selection, but it won't play DRM-protected wma files.
The zip file also includes the old version of wmahelp.dll, not sure if you need it though. That file also belongs in the Winamp plugins folder.

Andaq · 21st June 2005, 16:02

Thank youuuuuu very much! ^_________________________________^

Maybe I guessed it. Are you from Germany? ("siebe"…)

siebe83 · 21st June 2005, 16:19

Nope, from the Netherlands

Btw, we would appreciate if you'd report back here (or in the other thread) if the problem still occurs in next Winamp versions.

jmatthews112 · 21st June 2005, 16:27

siebe,

in the future, here is a quick, easy and painless way

to restore old in_wm functionality:

Winamp 5 Downgrade Installer

From dro: All the downgrader does is it gives you the option to restore in_wm.dll, wmahelp.dll and out_ds.dll from Winamp 5.08d

Originally found here

siebe83 · 21st June 2005, 16:28

Dude, I totally forgot about that

Thanks

jmatthews112 · 21st June 2005, 16:32

We all talk about disabling in_wm now, but no one suggests the downgrade, because so few people know about it, or else it falls between the cracks

Andaq · 21st June 2005, 16:37

Quote:

Originally posted by siebe83
Nope, from the Netherlands

Oh, excuse me, I just made a guess. But I've come nearby…

Quote:

Btw, we would appreciate if you'd report back here (or in the other thread) if the problem still occurs in next Winamp versions.

No problem!

Rex From Ars · 23rd June 2005, 05:29

I too have had this same problem in the latest version of WinAMP (5.93). I have temporarily downgraded to 5.07 after a complete uninstall and everything is OK for now. I do daily shoutcasts, so I won't be able to try the "WMA fix" until this weekend, but if it works I'll report back.

exhYle · 13th July 2005, 11:40

I have the very same problems mentioned above, I tried all your tricks, but none of it worked out for me. I downgraded, I used the DirectSound Output Tweaks and so on ...
I have read many threads about problems from other users, but my problem can't be fixed yet.
I tried everything I heard it could help.

Here's my thread about my prob:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=221049

Rex From Ars · 13th July 2005, 16:33

I just wanted to check in to let you guys know that the "Windows Media fix" worked.

I've been using 5.903 for a week or two (after an unrelated system rebuild) and haven't had a single problem to speak of.

DJ Egg · 16th July 2005, 19:20

Ok, could everyone who's experiencing this problem please test this new version of in_wm.dll
http://sawgweb.com/sawgstuff/winamp5/in_wm_beta.zip

With Winamp closed, backup the current version of in_wm.dll then unzip this new version to the Winamp\Plugins folder.

Let us know if the seek/crash problems are fixed.

3rd June 2005, 23:39	#1
timmeah4 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	Problems with seeking in songs Hi You've probably already covered this error before, but the latest version of Winamp (5.091) crashes every time I try to seek to a part in a song, is there a work around? Am I the only one experiencing this? The last version of Winamp works fine, but Winamp 5.091..... I've just recently formatted my PC, pretty much the only things installed at the moment is Winamp, Firefox and MSN Messenger... Thanks

4th June 2005, 00:49	#2
jmatthews112 Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,661	http://www.winamp.com/player 5.092 available as of late last week make sure you do clean install what are your system specs[? what types of files are you trying to play? The Winamp.INI File for Dummies Tips and Tricks for MSVCRT.dll Errors

4th June 2005, 10:24	#5
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	Do you get any error messages? If so, please post them here. Maybe try the DirectSound output tweaks. Please provide full system specs (instructions to be found under the link jmat posted). If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

4th June 2005, 13:04	#7
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	There have been several threads where Winamp 5.092 would freeze on seeking, but as far as I know you're the first one who actually gets an error message. I don't know why in_wm.dll would crash when you're playing an mp3 file. That shouldn't happen. in_wm.dll is used for playback of WMA files. I do know there's another bug in 5.092, also seemingly unrelated to in_wm.dll but it appeared to be in_wm.dll at fault (here). That bug has been fixed in the latest internal builds (not available to the public yet). So maybe what you're experiencing is a side-effect of that bug or another bug in in_wm.dll which will be fixed in the next version as well. Anyway, if you don't have any WMA files, you can just disable in_wm.dll by renaming it to in_wm.off while Winamp is closed (or just delete it). You can find the file in C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins. If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

4th June 2005, 13:31	#9
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	Glad it helped and you're welcome I dunno about mapping network drives to a directory If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

4th June 2005, 02:08	#3
timmeah4 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	Ok, I got the latest Winamp 5.092 and I still have the same problem. To be more precise, seeking sometimes crashes Winamp 5 when I am playing an mp3 off my local harddrive, and seeking always crashes Winamp 5 when I am playing a song from a mapped network drive. I have 3 computers, my Laptop, my PC and my Server. My server is where I store all my files. Thats why i want to be able to play music of a network drive. I have just recently upgraded my PC (I got it free, so dont payout the fact it has a prescott core). I did a fresh install of windows XP SP2. I have the following system specs: P4 3.2GHz 1 gig of ram and currently a shithouse intel graphics, I'm waiting for the G70. I only play mp3 files. Hey, I Just realised, Prescott's got DEP, should I turn that off, would that be causing any problems?

4th June 2005, 02:17	#4
timmeah4 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	To answer my own question, NO, turning off DEP did not fix my problem.

4th June 2005, 12:43	#6
timmeah4 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	Phoor!, ok then, let me get to it!: Intel Pentium 4 540 (Prescott) 3.20GHz Hewlett-Packard 0968h Mobo with, BIOS revision: 786C1 v01.05 BIOS release date: 06/16/2004 Chipset Intel i915P/i915G rev. B1 1024MB DDR-SDRAM 200Mhz 3,3,3,8 Windows XP Professional SP2 (Build 2600) DirectX: 9.0c Graphics: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Driver Version: 6.14.0010.3924 Sound: SoundMAX Digital Audio Driver Version: 5.12.0001.4070 Exact Problem: Seeking in an mp3 causes winamp 5.091 and 5.092 to crash. Occasionally it doesn't occur the first time i seek, but it will always happen if a seek a few times, I have problems very much like what is mentioned in the following unanswered thread: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=216683 In addition, when Winamp does die, it jumps to taking up around 50% of the CPU. The following is what is stated in the error message, when Winamp does crash gracefully: AppName: winamp.exe AppVer: 5.0.0.9 ModName: in_wm.dll ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00014407 Hopefully this info helps out! Thanks!

4th June 2005, 13:22	#8
timmeah4 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	I love you (not in a gay way), changing that dll fixed my seeking problems!!! AWESOME!, thanks HEAPS! BTW: if anyone knows how to map a network drive to a directory.. that would be awesome too, but I'll leave this Q for a MS newsgroup.

9th June 2005, 21:05	#10
loveisweakness Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 30	yay this helped me too as for networking a drive to a directory, not sure how to just have it show as a directory, but to mount it as it's own drive, go to the network places, the computer, then right click on whatever folder and map it as a network drive, and it'll pop up not sure if that helps or not, or if you've already done that

21st June 2005, 15:21	#12
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	Yeah, I noticed. It seems to be something with in_wm.dll, I dunno what it is. I had hoped the problem would no longer occur with 5.093, but apparently it does... Hopefully the developers will look into it. As for your second question... What I understood from Benski's post, is that in_wm.dll needs to be active all the time when it's installed to allow playback of DRM-protected wma files. But in_wm.dll is only needed for wma files. So if you don't have any wma files you can safely disable in_wm.dll as I described above. If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

21st June 2005, 15:32	#13
Andaq Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 24	The fact is that I have some .WMA… (but not DRM-protected) [Is it right in English to say "The fact is that etc. etc." ;D ?]

21st June 2005, 16:02	#15
Andaq Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 24	Thank youuuuuu very much! ^_________________________________^ Maybe I guessed it. Are you from Germany? ("siebe"…)

21st June 2005, 16:19	#16
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	Nope, from the Netherlands Btw, we would appreciate if you'd report back here (or in the other thread) if the problem still occurs in next Winamp versions. If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

21st June 2005, 16:27	#17
jmatthews112 Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,661	siebe, in the future, here is a quick, easy and painless way to restore old in_wm functionality: Winamp 5 Downgrade Installer From dro: All the downgrader does is it gives you the option to restore in_wm.dll, wmahelp.dll and out_ds.dll from Winamp 5.08d Originally found here The Winamp.INI File for Dummies Tips and Tricks for MSVCRT.dll Errors

21st June 2005, 16:28	#18
siebe83 Forum King Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,229	Dude, I totally forgot about that Thanks If you're bored go here or, if the boredom is more serious, here.

21st June 2005, 16:32	#19
jmatthews112 Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,661	We all talk about disabling in_wm now, but no one suggests the downgrade, because so few people know about it, or else it falls between the cracks The Winamp.INI File for Dummies Tips and Tricks for MSVCRT.dll Errors

23rd June 2005, 05:29	#21
Rex From Ars Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	I too have had this same problem in the latest version of WinAMP (5.93). I have temporarily downgraded to 5.07 after a complete uninstall and everything is OK for now. I do daily shoutcasts, so I won't be able to try the "WMA fix" until this weekend, but if it works I'll report back.

13th July 2005, 11:40	#22
exhYle Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	I have the very same problems mentioned above, I tried all your tricks, but none of it worked out for me. I downgraded, I used the DirectSound Output Tweaks and so on ... I have read many threads about problems from other users, but my problem can't be fixed yet. I tried everything I heard it could help. Here's my thread about my prob: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=221049

13th July 2005, 16:33	#23
Rex From Ars Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	I just wanted to check in to let you guys know that the "Windows Media fix" worked. I've been using 5.903 for a week or two (after an unrelated system rebuild) and haven't had a single problem to speak of.

16th July 2005, 19:20	#24
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,894	Ok, could everyone who's experiencing this problem please test this new version of in_wm.dll http://sawgweb.com/sawgstuff/winamp5/in_wm_beta.zip With Winamp closed, backup the current version of in_wm.dll then unzip this new version to the Winamp\Plugins folder. Let us know if the seek/crash problems are fixed. Playlist -\|- Twitter

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