Media Library Browser popups

cwaugh · 30th September 2005, 18:07

The setting to prevent media from switching to 'Now Playing' is NOT preventing AOL XM channels from launching a browser popup. Known 5.1 bug?

DJ Egg · 30th September 2005, 19:17

The two features/settings aren't connected.
Now Playing is Now Playing in the Media Library.
The XM Radio Browser only appears when listening to XM Radio.

cwaugh · 30th September 2005, 20:41

Hmmm...but playing the AOL XM Radio is via the the Online Media section of the Media Library. And, in the past, in these forums, it has been claimed that preventing the switch to Now Playing prevented browser popups. It just doesn't seem to work anymore...

Unless the XM Radio browser is something new, and unrelated to the normal browser. In which case, how does one disable it?

DJ Egg · 30th September 2005, 22:02

"Do not allow media to switch to Now Playing" does what it says.
The AOL XM Radio browser is NOT Now Playing.

"Unless the XM Radio browser is something new, and unrelated to the normal browser."

Correct.

"In which case, how does one disable it?"

Alas, you don't. Sorry :/

[Edit]

As from Winamp 5.11x and later...
Winamp > Prefs > Station Info
Uncheck: Automatically show info on station tune-in

:-)

valiot · 8th October 2005, 09:18

Quote:

"In which case, how does one disable it?"

Alas, you don't. Sorry :/

I would disagree. I just came to this forum for the first time in years. I've been using Winamp since version 2 and have never needed support. This new feature is driving me nuts.

This browser popup occurs with all shoutcast media as well. How do we turn it off for the Shoutcast Streams?

valiot · 8th October 2005, 09:25

Sorry, I only now found the following link to an answer for this:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....ibrary+Browser

I guess I'll just wait for a pop killer or something...

DJ Egg · 8th October 2005, 13:06

Yup, it's only started also happening for SHOUTcast streams as from yesterday. Up until then the browser only popped up for AOL XM Radio streams. And yes, everyone please refer to the thread linked to in valiot's post above.

Again, I reiterate that "Now Playing" and the browser are two entirely different things/features. "Now Playing" is the view found at the top of the left pane in the Media Library. The (Online Media) browser is a separate window entirely.

We now have an internal RC2 of the gen_diebrowserdie plugin, and it's working well. The browser no longer pops up, and it also gets rid of the "browser" entry in Winamp's main menu. The plugin should hopefully be publically released very soon.

Sorry again dudes, heh.

[Edit]

As from Winamp 5.11x and later...
Winamp > Prefs > Station Info
Uncheck: Automatically show info on station tune-in

ujay · 8th October 2005, 15:01

Personally, I like this very much and would be pleased to see it extended to 'Bookmarked' streams as well.
Presumable this originates from the shoutcast servers and can't be implemented with direct links ?

Couple of points -

Resize info for the window is saved OK (studio.xnf), but always restores to default size when opening (position is kept OK).
Is this a serverside setting ??

Empty playlist saved on close.

UJ

DrO · 8th October 2005, 15:10

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg
We now have an internal RC2 of the gen_diebrowserdie plugin, and it's working well. The browser no longer pops up, and it also gets rid of the "browser" entry in Winamp's main menu. The plugin should hopefully be publically released very soon.

DBD 1.0 RC2

i'm putting the link up to this as it stands since i'm at work (cos i have to pay the bills somehow... so i can't make this a 1.0 final

) but if egg's said it's working then apart from one known glitch i have with the colour themes sub menu being duplicated i think this is safe to get some more 'public' testing (die browser die damnit!!

) enjoy

-daz

ujay · 8th October 2005, 15:31

Can't see any probs here.

Any plans for a die/resurrect switch ??

UJ

DrO · 8th October 2005, 17:00

yeah, i was wondering about something like that since i guess for some cases it may be useful to have it available. i may add some manual config options/something in the installer which would allow for that, dunno yet

-daz

ujay · 8th October 2005, 17:07

Something along the same lines as the little menu you did with 'OneforNunz' would be good

UJ

DrO · 8th October 2005, 17:13

heh, i'd forgotten about doing it that way since it's not as much of a dll resource size increase doing it that way. i'll see what i can get finalised over the next day or so (since i'm doing a rare bit of socialising tonight

)

-daz

ujay · 8th October 2005, 17:17

Have fun

UJ

jim2664258 · 8th October 2005, 20:05

Works good for me - sometimes you see the browser window pop up momentarily before it's killed, but this does the trick

Thanks!

DrO · 10th October 2005, 01:55

Die Browser Die v1.1a

Fixed an issue which could block user input to Winamp
Tweaks and some future proofing

download v1.1a

Die Browser Die v1.0
Allows blocking of the browser popup window (may flash briefly on blocking due to the OS)

Ability to remove the main menu 'Browser' entry (*)

download v1.0

(*) Due to general dumbnes in the modern skin support you may experience some duplicated menu entries due to the browser entry removal after accessing the 'view' and/or 'options' menu in the Modern skin's main window (i will try to look into this more with time to see if it can be fixed/better handled though i'd just say use classic skins since they work 100%

)

-daz

marcpullen · 11th October 2005, 02:14

Thank you so much for that fix! I'm in and out of SHOUTcast streams all day, that browser/now playing popup was driving me nuts.

skorbut · 13th October 2005, 10:29

DrO! You're the man! Thank you very much for bringing this to us!

kaoz · 16th October 2005, 16:55

Hooray!

Thank you. That popup browser was really bugging me too - not so much that it was doing anything bad, just that it was 'doing' - without any invitation from me.

Now I can zap it, thanks to the author, until AOL comes up with another sneaky backdoor, I suspose? Ergghhh on these guys who think outside of the box! But then again, that's from whence the remedy cometh, ehh?

LOL!

Have a great day.

ssj4_android · 16th October 2005, 17:49

Thanks. WTF were they thinking adding popups though?

stmotorsports · 18th October 2005, 03:32

Quote:

Originally posted by ssj4_android
Thanks. WTF were they thinking adding popups though?

yeah right? Knowing someone would just figure out a way to kill it anyhow within a few days... God damn I wish someone could come up with a dieAOLdie

Thanx again DrO- mine's working great

stmotorsports · 18th October 2005, 19:36

another little thing I have noticed since the recent onslaught of the browser popup issue- any time I have any shoutcast streams going, if I shut winamp down, the next time I restart it, it just defaults to "Winamp 5.1" in the track title bar whereas it used to automatically reload the last stream it was connected to. The way it was, you could just startup winamp and hit the play button, and it would automatically connect to that last stream. Now it just opens the search for local media prompt window. I have a feeling there's a setting for this somewhere that I haven't found yet but I know I didn't change anything. Somehow this just started happening when the browser popups started appearing...

anyone else have this issue?

DrO · 18th October 2005, 19:39

yes and it's meant to be being fixed

-daz

DJ Egg · 18th October 2005, 19:59

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....adid=156839#51

MasterGoa · 19th November 2005, 19:32

Well, I still get browser windows when I shoucast,
the DBD1.o crashes my Winamp, the Ver 1.1B is not available.

Can browser popups be disabled in winamp directly now?

Thanx!

DrO · 19th November 2005, 19:41

the v1.1a download is working fine here...

there is a 'station info' prefs page now in the newest winamp builds to disable the popups though i still use dbd since it can remove that page from the preferences once you've used the prefs to disable it (no need to keep it clogging up the prefs list when it's not needed any more

)

-daz

MasterGoa · 20th November 2005, 16:06

Thanks for the info.

I disabled it in prefs, but I still timeout on that update.

Oh well...

DrO · 20th November 2005, 16:17

alt download though i've no idea why the main link is failing for you :/

-daz

tao_gilliam · 24th December 2005, 04:40

my beef with the minibrowser is that it uses IE, which runs slow on this [workplace]computer.
(a bit offtopic?) ive traced the slowdown to norton'05 but having trouble pegging which option(s) is/are causing the slowdown.
tested by disabling norton, then opening IE, also opening a shoutcast stream and letting the browser appear, normal(expected good) speed.

with diebrowserdie the minibrowser still comes up for a split second, long enough for the slowdown w/ norton on.

30th September 2005, 18:07	#1
cwaugh Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	Media Library Browser popups The setting to prevent media from switching to 'Now Playing' is NOT preventing AOL XM channels from launching a browser popup. Known 5.1 bug?

30th September 2005, 19:17	#2
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,875	The two features/settings aren't connected. Now Playing is Now Playing in the Media Library. The XM Radio Browser only appears when listening to XM Radio. Playlist -\|- Twitter

30th September 2005, 22:02	#4
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,875	"Do not allow media to switch to Now Playing" does what it says. The AOL XM Radio browser is NOT Now Playing. "Unless the XM Radio browser is something new, and unrelated to the normal browser." Correct. "In which case, how does one disable it?" Alas, you don't. Sorry :/ [Edit] As from Winamp 5.11x and later... Winamp > Prefs > Station Info Uncheck: Automatically show info on station tune-in :-) Playlist -\|- Twitter

8th October 2005, 13:06	#7
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,875	Yup, it's only started also happening for SHOUTcast streams as from yesterday. Up until then the browser only popped up for AOL XM Radio streams. And yes, everyone please refer to the thread linked to in valiot's post above. Again, I reiterate that "Now Playing" and the browser are two entirely different things/features. "Now Playing" is the view found at the top of the left pane in the Media Library. The (Online Media) browser is a separate window entirely. We now have an internal RC2 of the gen_diebrowserdie plugin, and it's working well. The browser no longer pops up, and it also gets rid of the "browser" entry in Winamp's main menu. The plugin should hopefully be publically released very soon. Sorry again dudes, heh. [Edit] As from Winamp 5.11x and later... Winamp > Prefs > Station Info Uncheck: Automatically show info on station tune-in Playlist -\|- Twitter

8th October 2005, 17:00	#11
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	yeah, i was wondering about something like that since i guess for some cases it may be useful to have it available. i may add some manual config options/something in the installer which would allow for that, dunno yet -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

30th September 2005, 20:41	#3
cwaugh Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	Hmmm...but playing the AOL XM Radio is via the the Online Media section of the Media Library. And, in the past, in these forums, it has been claimed that preventing the switch to Now Playing prevented browser popups. It just doesn't seem to work anymore... Unless the XM Radio browser is something new, and unrelated to the normal browser. In which case, how does one disable it?

8th October 2005, 09:25	#6
valiot Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Sorry, I only now found the following link to an answer for this: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....ibrary+Browser I guess I'll just wait for a pop killer or something...

8th October 2005, 15:01	#8
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072	Personally, I like this very much and would be pleased to see it extended to 'Bookmarked' streams as well. Presumable this originates from the shoutcast servers and can't be implemented with direct links ? Couple of points - Resize info for the window is saved OK (studio.xnf), but always restores to default size when opening (position is kept OK). Is this a serverside setting ?? Empty playlist saved on close. UJ

8th October 2005, 15:31	#10
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072	Can't see any probs here. Any plans for a die/resurrect switch ?? UJ

8th October 2005, 17:07	#12
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072	Something along the same lines as the little menu you did with 'OneforNunz' would be good UJ

8th October 2005, 17:13	#13
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	heh, i'd forgotten about doing it that way since it's not as much of a dll resource size increase doing it that way. i'll see what i can get finalised over the next day or so (since i'm doing a rare bit of socialising tonight ) -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

8th October 2005, 17:17	#14
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 6,072	Have fun UJ

8th October 2005, 20:05	#15
jim2664258 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 32	Works good for me - sometimes you see the browser window pop up momentarily before it's killed, but this does the trick Thanks!

10th October 2005, 01:55	#16
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	Die Browser Die v1.1a Fixed an issue which could block user input to Winamp Tweaks and some future proofing download v1.1a Die Browser Die v1.0 Allows blocking of the browser popup window (may flash briefly on blocking due to the OS) Ability to remove the main menu 'Browser' entry () download v1.0 () Due to general dumbnes in the modern skin support you may experience some duplicated menu entries due to the browser entry removal after accessing the 'view' and/or 'options' menu in the Modern skin's main window (i will try to look into this more with time to see if it can be fixed/better handled though i'd just say use classic skins since they work 100% ) -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

11th October 2005, 02:14	#17
marcpullen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8	Thank you so much for that fix! I'm in and out of SHOUTcast streams all day, that browser/now playing popup was driving me nuts.

13th October 2005, 10:29	#18
skorbut Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1	DrO! You're the man! Thank you very much for bringing this to us!

16th October 2005, 16:55	#19
kaoz Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	Hooray! Thank you. That popup browser was really bugging me too - not so much that it was doing anything bad, just that it was 'doing' - without any invitation from me. Now I can zap it, thanks to the author, until AOL comes up with another sneaky backdoor, I suspose? Ergghhh on these guys who think outside of the box! But then again, that's from whence the remedy cometh, ehh? LOL! Have a great day.

16th October 2005, 17:49	#20
ssj4_android Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 191	Thanks. WTF were they thinking adding popups though?

18th October 2005, 19:36	#22
stmotorsports Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 9	another little thing I have noticed since the recent onslaught of the browser popup issue- any time I have any shoutcast streams going, if I shut winamp down, the next time I restart it, it just defaults to "Winamp 5.1" in the track title bar whereas it used to automatically reload the last stream it was connected to. The way it was, you could just startup winamp and hit the play button, and it would automatically connect to that last stream. Now it just opens the search for local media prompt window. I have a feeling there's a setting for this somewhere that I haven't found yet but I know I didn't change anything. Somehow this just started happening when the browser popups started appearing... anyone else have this issue?

18th October 2005, 19:39	#23
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	yes and it's meant to be being fixed -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

18th October 2005, 19:59	#24
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,875	http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....adid=156839#51 Playlist -\|- Twitter

19th November 2005, 19:32	#25
MasterGoa Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Deux-Montagnes, Qc, Cnd Posts: 48	Well, I still get browser windows when I shoucast, the DBD1.o crashes my Winamp, the Ver 1.1B is not available. Can browser popups be disabled in winamp directly now? Thanx!

19th November 2005, 19:41	#26
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	the v1.1a download is working fine here... there is a 'station info' prefs page now in the newest winamp builds to disable the popups though i still use dbd since it can remove that page from the preferences once you've used the prefs to disable it (no need to keep it clogging up the prefs list when it's not needed any more ) -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

20th November 2005, 16:06	#27
MasterGoa Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Deux-Montagnes, Qc, Cnd Posts: 48	Thanks for the info. I disabled it in prefs, but I still timeout on that update. Oh well...

20th November 2005, 16:17	#28
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	alt download though i've no idea why the main link is failing for you :/ -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

24th December 2005, 04:40	#29
tao_gilliam Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: sac CA Posts: 3	my beef with the minibrowser is that it uses IE, which runs slow on this [workplace]computer. (a bit offtopic?) ive traced the slowdown to norton'05 but having trouble pegging which option(s) is/are causing the slowdown. tested by disabling norton, then opening IE, also opening a shoutcast stream and letting the browser appear, normal(expected good) speed. with diebrowserdie the minibrowser still comes up for a split second, long enough for the slowdown w/ norton on.

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