Old 10th December 2009, 13:24   #41
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Ah good to hear about the file type/elevation stuff, I just installed Winamp on a friend's Win7 machine the other day and was stunned by how weird it was being wrt stuff like that. Enq & Play Shell options in particular were crazy, if 5.56 wasn't running as Administrator and you viewed those prefs they got all messed up.
I'm not sure if "Prefs -> File Types -> Shell Options" is fixed yet.

That page is added by JTFE (gen_jumpex) which hasn't been updated since 5.56

When I go to that Prefs page in Win7, the "Add 'Enqueue & Play' to Winamp's associated file types" option is always unchecked. I can only get it to stay checked if I open Winamp by right-clicking the Winamp desktop icon (or winamp.exe) and selecting "Run as administrator".

Maybe DrO has already addressed this for the next JTFE update,
or maybe he isn't even aware of the issue....?
I'm not rightly sure, to be honest.
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Egg: i'm aware there are issues though things seem to have improved with the 5.57 fixes (at least from some quick tests i've done on Win7) but i doubt i'm going to have fixes hooked up properly in time for 5.57 (but who can say, heh).

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Old 10th December 2009, 14:24   #43
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It's not labelled a beta for nothing...

Sorry, but I never even tried the 3rd-party plugin.
Did it also do all the alt/win+tab stuff?
Yes that Win7 Taskbar plugin does do both the alt+tab and win+tab. Although both show the plugins earo thumnail feature however the user would have it set, whether it be album art or a backreound, etc. etc. instead of a picture of Winamp itself as it should. It does show Winamp when cycling threw the opened apps though.
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Old 10th December 2009, 15:07   #44
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Thanks for the reports

We've fixed a couple of issues with in_nsv (deadlock and intermittent crash on stop).
Can you give us a new in_nsv.dll for testing?
Or is it more than only the dll?

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We haven't been able to reproduce the weird corruption issue though,
and would therefore need a link to a sample file...
I will create with VirtualDub a sample file (direct stream).

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Can't reproduce any of the other issues (no uac prompt when entering reg key, etc)
I will try it again.
Where is the Reg-Key stored in Windows 7 ?
HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node\Nullsoft\Winamp ?

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Can you give us a new in_nsv.dll for testing?
Or is it more than only the dll?
Not yet... but we shall see...
It might also require an updated winamp.exe, heh.

By the way, we're also fixing it so that the total time isn't displayed for video streams in the OSD.
The reason why you were seeing that long fraction/number for the X-Files SC-TV stream is because we've no way of knowing/calculating the total time for SC-TV streams, or any other similar video streams.

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Cool

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Where is the Reg-Key stored in Windows 7 ?
HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node\Nullsoft\Winamp ?
Correct (for 64-bit OS)

regkey & regname strings

(regkey is encrypted)

Note, for 32-bit OS it's just: HKLM\Software\Nullsoft\Winamp
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Thank you very very much for your help!

It's certainly possible, that i have few of my files corrupted. Maybe there is another way for winamp to detect this files and just ignore them during scaning rather than crashing down? Since it's hard to find all these files in the library with 9000-10000 files.

PS - I've tried to play all these files - they played perfect. Also check their tags - they seems good. It crushing during library scan for playlist generator - the message says:

"Winamp client version: 5.57 build 2765 Beta
winamp caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module CddbPlaylist2Winamp.dll at 001b:0e9d0c74.

Exception handler called in Winamp."

Now it happened again - and there are already another filenames in log.

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Ok Eggy, this is for you:

1) Problem with VU-meter in Bento:
Download the rar-file below and unpack it. There are two songs there + a screen (you can see how it looks for me, even though that doesn't help you much :P). Try the ACDC song; the first seconds its ok, but from 0:05 -> the VU-meter stays at the ends. It doesn't move until the bass gets lower. It stays there. Now, with the Winamp Modern skin this does not happen. I'm not saying it works flawless and perfectly there (cause it doesn't move THAT much there either), but at least it moves a little bit with that skin. If you can reproduce I hope you can fix it, for BOTH skins that is. As I said its not perfect in the Winamp Modern skin either. A thought I had was that this happens with .wma files only but I dunno.. I've got it for some .mp3 files too but mostly for .wma files so far..

2) The normal spectrum analyzer:
This one feels a bit slower for me with 5.57. Is that intended? Now, I know that for modern skins I can change the falloff speed etc, but WITHOUT doing that (and therefore having the default settings, same as in 5.56), it feels a lot slower than with 5.56. Maybe its just my imagination but I dont like it..

3) Llama head-bangin:
Yes I know its an easter-egg, but still... are you saying you cant make it stay when restarting because of that? C'mon..

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@Kn0tte - the reason we don't keep the easter egg on after winamp relaunch is because users might turn it on by accident and not know how to turn it off.

also, VU calculation is the same for all file formats. if you have a really loud song and don't use replay gain, it might exhibit the behaviour you are describing. It's the same calculation for all skins, but how each skin might have different images for the different loudness levels which would explain the difference you are seeing.

nothing changed vis-a-vis the spectrum analyzer
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Old 10th December 2009, 16:59   #49
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@Kn0tte - the reason we don't keep the easter egg on after winamp relaunch is because users might turn it on by accident and not know how to turn it off.
Holding Shift + Left Ctrl + Alt and clicking in the middle of the VU-meter -> doing that by accident? Yeah right..
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Can't reproduce any of the other issues (no uac prompt when entering reg key, etc)
I can reproduce it.

a) Windows 7 (tested with ultimate 32/64bit german)
On difference PC's / VM's

b) Winamp was never installed before

c) UAC is set to:

or


d) starting: winamp557_2765_beta_pro_all.exe
(default installation)

e) after the setup finished
(I use copy&paste to insert the key)


f) after the first start of winamp (without admin rights)


g) restart winamp and then it works

So it is only at the first start of Winamp

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3) Llama head-bangin:
Yes I know its an easter-egg, but still... are you saying you cant make it stay when restarting because of that? C'mon..
why not just swap the images over or recompile the skin so it's set 'on' rather than 'off' as it's default - that way you get what you're looking for (just have to remember that any install will otherwise replace the modifications). this way you get what you want... yes?

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Old 10th December 2009, 17:57   #52
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2) The normal spectrum analyzer:
This one feels a bit slower for me with 5.57. Is that intended? Now, I know that for modern skins I can change the falloff speed etc, but WITHOUT doing that (and therefore having the default settings, same as in 5.56), it feels a lot slower than with 5.56. Maybe its just my imagination but I dont like it..
Its not your imagination. I can confirm it. I have 5.56 and 5.57 beta (clean install), first and the second one have the same settings and even with that, that lag is.

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why not set vista_thumbnail=0 in the [winamp] section of winamp.ini as that may work to resolve in the incompatability still as i had to remove that when i installed the beta on my Win7 machine). though obviously no idea as i'm not in a position to try it out...
well i finally gave it a go and that doesn't seem to do it from what i can see. plugin will need to be updated to override Winamp's output (the fun of being a 3rd party developer, heh)

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Old 11th December 2009, 02:10   #54
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I can reproduce it.

a) Windows 7 (tested with ultimate 32/64bit german)
On difference PC's / VM's

b) Winamp was never installed before

c) UAC is set to on (2nd or 3rd level)

d) starting: winamp557_2765_beta_pro_all.exe
(default installation)

e) after the setup finished
(I use copy&paste to insert the key)
[invalid registration key]

f) after the first start of winamp (without admin rights)
[invalid registration key]

g) restart winamp and then it works

So it is only at the first start of Winamp
Hmm, I just tested this on my Win7 64-bit pc (not VM)

As soon as I open the installer I get a UAC prompt.
I click Allow/Yes/Continue (or whatever it is) on the UAC prompt,
then the Choose Language dialog appears
then the installer runs
then Setup runs
then I get the Enter Reg Key dialog...

It works perfectly ok
and Winamp opens, fully registered.

Are you not getting the UAC prompt as soon as you double-click/run the installer (winamp557_2765_beta_pro_all.exe)?
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Old 11th December 2009, 04:19   #55
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as ujay said earlier the separate task bar integration plug-in will cause a crash

in my opinion this is caused by the internal function on the new winamp function to show its own task-bar picture

and of course winamp does not want to compete with itself over default

the only way to bypass the problem is to uninstall the separate task-bar integration tool before installing the 5.57 version and then reinstall it

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Hmm, I just tested this on my Win7 64-bit pc (not VM)

As soon as I open the installer I get a UAC prompt.
I click Allow/Yes/Continue (or whatever it is) on the UAC prompt,
then the Choose Language dialog appears
then the installer runs
then Setup runs
then I get the Enter Reg Key dialog...

It works perfectly ok
and Winamp opens, fully registered.

Are you not getting the UAC prompt as soon as you double-click/run the installer (winamp557_2765_beta_pro_all.exe)?
I get the UAC promt and click on "Ja"(=yes):


And later I leave it checked:


I have tried it to install from a network place and locally.
Both are the same result.

Nobody out there with the same result???

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Still surprised no one has mentioned the speed increase in the Media Library, considering the complaints there used to be

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Sorry UJay. I have been so busy trying to test out the Video parts that I didn't even notice the media library. It was never what I considered slow... but you are right. Its very fast now. The Winamp Devs never let me down. This version works great, I cant wait to see when it is out of Beta.

The only issue I have (and it was a known issue with the last release) when you enable the playlist tab. Switch over to it and it makes the playlist pane go away as it should. However, when you switch back to the media library tab it doesnt bring the playlist pane back. Minor although I am surprised Kn0tte hasn't said something about it.
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The only issue I have (and it was a known issue with the last release) when you enable the playlist tab. Switch over to it and it makes the playlist pane go away as it should. However, when you switch back to the media library tab it doesnt bring the playlist pane back. Minor although I am surprised Kn0tte hasn't said something about it.
I'm surprised you haven't noticed by now that I use the "Winamp Modern skin" and not "Bento"...
But anway, I noticed the issue a long time ago while testing stuff and YES, I did post about it back then.

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2) The normal spectrum analyzer:
This one feels a bit slower for me with 5.57. Is that intended? Now, I know that for modern skins I can change the falloff speed etc, but WITHOUT doing that (and therefore having the default settings, same as in 5.56), it feels a lot slower than with 5.56. Maybe its just my imagination but I dont like it..
Its not your imagination. I can confirm it. I have 5.56 and 5.57 beta (clean install), first and the second one have the same settings and even with that, that lag is.
I knew it. I noticed on first 5.57 start-up that it was slower than before with the same settings as before..
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Great to see a new Winamp version. Testing and sharing, thanks.

BTW for the change log: Firefox is abbreviated Fx, not FF (FireFox?!).



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Great to see a new Winamp version. Testing and sharing, thanks.

BTW for the change log: Firefox is abbreviated Fx, not FF (FireFox?!).
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FF

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Whoever fills that dictionary is simply wrong.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox...s/1.5.html#FAQ



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The preferred abbreviation by Mozilla is "Fx". Though that doesn't stop people from using "FF".

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/393425?s=Fx
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"FF" is barely wrong, though, as there is no second F in Firefox.



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Everyone I know uses FF.
When you pronounce Firefox you do say it like Fire-Fox and when someone reads FX they generally think of special FX etc.
Also how often do people still call it WinAmp rather than Winamp?

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To avoid any further argument/confusion, I've changed it from FF to Firefox for 5.57F :-)
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New: Winamp detection browser plugins for IE & FF
What is the browser detection supposed to do and what happens after it detects my browser?
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hungapp

Hello

Sometimes I have a buffering problem (stops at 95%) and Winamp hung (on different systems) if I start Shoutcast TV streams.
I can't reproduce it with the same stream.
I hope these files help.

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Great work with the new version, been on the beta a few days now, seems to be holding ok.

I do have to agree with Knotte about the vu meter, most of my tracks now have it maxed out with no movement, whereas before it would be all over the place.

Also, seem to be having some problems with milkdrop now, used to run fine on my 8600GT but now all i get is a dark gray screen, and winamp locks up. have the newest drivers available installed.
I did back up the old winamp installation, so i'll just make sure the old dll still works, if it should that is?

Also, playlist context menu still locks windows 7 solid if i have a alcohol 120% virtual drive active, unless i remove in_cdda.dll & ml_disc.dll from the plugins.

And as stated before in this thread, the media library speed is now AWESOME! it was quite cumbersome dealing with 45,000 tunes before, but now its slick..nice work.

And can you clarify the purpose of the Firefox winamp application detection plugin? what benefits will it bring? what info is transferred, if any?

Thanks for your efforts.

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I do have to agree with Knotte about the vu meter, most of my tracks now have it maxed out with no movement, whereas before it would be all over the place.
Thanks for the support so I'm not the only one. As yoy say its almost maxed out all the time now, and thats especially with the Bento skin but also with the Winamp Modern skin. In fact it looks really REALLY bad in Bento. Completely maxed out and doesn't move AT ALL for a long time.

And dont forget the normal Spectrum Analyzer (in the Modern skins at least). It IS slower than before. I use the standard Winamp Modern skin and it is slower than before with the same settings. With Bento its EVEN slower, but that was the case in 5.56 too. Its always been slower in Bento for me. Anyway, the point is that its slower in every skin with 5.57. Thanks to Serpher btw for confirming this issue.
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Hello

Sometimes I have a buffering problem (stops at 95%) and Winamp hung (on different systems) if I start Shoutcast TV streams.
I can't reproduce it with the same stream.
I hope these files help.

Microsoft Crash Report + DxDiag + ListOfPlugins:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2y2jzn..._2009-12-13.7z
Already been fixed for the final version, thanks
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If you are still having issues with MilkDrop, can you contact me (send me a PM and let me know if you've got an AIM/icq/msn/skype/whatever acct) and we can try to work it out. There's so many combinations of video cards, drivers, and directx installations that it's tough to reproduce every scenario in the lab. Would be appreciated.

The "application detector" lets websites (well, really probably only winamp.com) know if Winamp is installed. We also added "winamp://" links to perform a limited number of "open such and such in winamp" kind of actions (similar to other programs that do similar things with protocols e.g. emule, aim, itunes). The browser plugin is simply a means of making sure it's actually going to work before launching winamp://whatever in the browser. It really doesn't do anything else - no information transferred besides the installed version. As for the benefits, umm, let me get back to you on that

I'll tweak the VU meter a bit more before final release. The prior incarnation of the code, while visually interesting, was a CPU hog (relatively speaking). I'm hoping to be able to get something reasonably similar with less CPU.

Although a VU meter in real life is actually pretty boring (I seem to remember from my FM days that it would sit fairly stationary on "loud" tracks). But Winamp's implementation is meant to be more of a beat visualizer than a true VU meter so I'll make it a little more like it was before

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Great work with the new version, been on the beta a few days now, seems to be holding ok.

I do have to agree with Knotte about the vu meter, most of my tracks now have it maxed out with no movement, whereas before it would be all over the place.

Also, seem to be having some problems with milkdrop now, used to run fine on my 8600GT but now all i get is a dark gray screen, and winamp locks up. have the newest drivers available installed.
I did back up the old winamp installation, so i'll just make sure the old dll still works, if it should that is?

Also, playlist context menu still locks windows 7 solid if i have a alcohol 120% virtual drive active, unless i remove in_cdda.dll & ml_disc.dll from the plugins.

And as stated before in this thread, the media library speed is now AWESOME! it was quite cumbersome dealing with 45,000 tunes before, but now its slick..nice work.

And can you clarify the purpose of the Firefox winamp application detection plugin? what benefits will it bring? what info is transferred, if any?

Thanks for your efforts.

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Old 14th December 2009, 01:49   #76
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Winamp Taskbar Plugin

Another very handy feature of the latest winamp win7 taskbar plugin is the ability to set the mouse wheel to adjust the program volume on hover, no click or open windows are necessary to do so and thats very handy for music lovers like myself who are always multitasking with other programs.

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Old 14th December 2009, 09:44   #77
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playing flv files issues:
- opening a flv file doesn't automatically open the video window, stopping the playback doesn't automatically close the video window; by closing the video window while playing, it does not stop the playback; video window does not resize to fit the video; half/full/double resizing the video window and full screen do not work; it doesn't matter what are the "video playback" settings (by default, all are active)
- an old issue, reported before by me: some flv files do not play audio through winamp's designated output plugin; that means all output plugins have a "not active" status, volume control is weird (details here ), and audio dsp plugins do not affect the output; I can provide a sample file, 9-15MB in size

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Old 14th December 2009, 14:06   #78
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Re: Re: hungapp

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Already been fixed for the final version, thanks :)
So after the beta comes directly the final?
No RC first?


By the way.
Could it be that this time was given very little feedback?

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Old 14th December 2009, 14:10   #79
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Re: Re: Re: hungapp

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So after the beta comes directly the final?
No RC first?

By the way.
Could it be that this time was given very little feedback?
well, according to the blog the final is supposed to come out this week.

And I disagree, I don't think that there is a lack of feedback, I think that there are a lack of problems. This version has been pretty solid as beta versions go. I am impressed.
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Old 14th December 2009, 14:53   #80
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MrX_1980: most of the 'public betas' go straight to a final release after a single public release. it has only been for a few specific builds (like 5.0 and i think 5.5 as well) that a release candidate is also released and additional beta builds are also rare.

Juanus pretty much has hit the nail on the head with 'I think that there are a lack of problems' or maybe it's just because people don't use Winamp anymore so aren't testing it (is strange to still be on the second page).

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