Old 1st September 2002, 18:24   #1
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Ogg Vorbis CEO Open Letter

The Ogg Vorbis CEO created an oppen letter to Thompson, telling how gratefull he is with the change on the licence. It's something you shoud read!

O CEO da Ogg Vorbis não perdeu a oportunidade e fez uma carta agradecendo a Tompson por ter modificado sua licença :)

here: An Open Thank-You Letter.
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Old 1st September 2002, 18:40   #2
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wtf? Did Thomson make mp3pro free or something?
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Old 1st September 2002, 18:48   #3
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damn, i wanted free licensing!@

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Old 1st September 2002, 19:45   #4
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We all wanted it. Oh well, good link.

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Old 1st September 2002, 21:20   #5
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There really was a change on MP3 license. The line: "No license fee is expected for desktop software mp3 decoders/players that are distributed free-of-charge via the Internet for personal use of end-users." was removed from the licence.

Old Licence | New one

There is a news here about the answer from Dave Arland, a U.S. spokesman for Thomson Multimedia.

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Old 1st September 2002, 22:27   #6
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They might have removed that line but according to a spokesperson, Fraunhofer is still exampting free distributions from fees.

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Old 1st September 2002, 22:37   #7
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it was a humorus response to the susposed change in Mp3 licensing that didn't actually happen.
lol.. i could of SWORN at first it seemed like he was kinda jokingin an insulting manner.
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They might have removed that line but according to a spokesperson, Fraunhofer is still exampting free distributions from fees.
But now they aren't under any legal obligation to do so... trivial distinction or not, thank Ogg for Vorbis.

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The question is we can't trust that copyrighted technologies will aways be free. Now we're dependent of MP3, it's popular. Ogg Vorbis is free and will aways be. What if AOL starts demanding money to use some funcionalities of ICQ?

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Old 2nd September 2002, 04:02   #10
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But now they aren't under any legal obligation to do so... trivial distinction or not, thank Ogg for Vorbis.
I think you'd have a hard time getting a court to agree that a free software copmany owed a single penny to Fraunofer. It's sort of difficult to take the rights away once you've made them free. That's like placing software into the open source community and then trying to take it away. You just can't do it.

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If you have the copyright of something, like a drug for example, but you allow other companies to manufacture it due to a epidemy, you could just someday say that you will start demanding royalities for the production of the drug.

If an artist puts in his website a song from his new album, it doesn't mean that you can rip that song from the CD and distribute it freely.

Yahoo Mail is not free any more (with pop access) and StarOffice for Linux was free and now isn't any more. For Yahoo there's other web-mail toos, as for StarOffice there is OpenOffice and for MP3 there is Ogg Vorbis.
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Old 5th September 2002, 19:35   #12
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It's capitalism. And it Sux!
Well, after you finish writing this post on your Cuban computer, check your North Korean watch and get into your Russian car - I'm sure you don't use the products of capitalist countries, because they are no damn good.

I don't know about you, but I need money to live, so I work at a place that produces a product, and we don't give it away for free.

Many of the wonderful things we use each day are made by people who, god forbid, want to make a lot of money! That's capitalism, and non-capitalistic countries don't produce many innovative things because there is no incentive to.
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Debian and Conectiva are both Linux distribution. Both are free. Both are open source companies. Both raise a lot of money each month. They send copies of Linux, they charge for the services of instalation and configuration. Even gaining lot of money, they continue to allow free copy, free download and never ask you a cent for the use, the copy, the reselling.

It isn't because I live in capitalism I can't offer a free product and charge other things related to that product. Fraunhofer and Tomsom Multimedia are strong companies, never lost money because the dissemination of free MP3 and now when MP3 is agregated to the society, they change the rules. I didn't like their iniciative. That's why I like Ogg Vorbis, they'll never charge you.
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Old 5th September 2002, 19:57   #14
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I was reacting to your statement that "capitalism sux". As you point out, there are some companies that have found a way to make money by offering a "free" product. That is still capitalism. Very few things are actually free - sometimes it's just harder to see what the price is.
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Old 5th September 2002, 20:09   #15
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I aggree with you. I didn't see your quote and thought that you where repling the post I did today.


About 'Capitalism sux'. I really think it sux. All the pressure to get money, more money, be rich, the stock, the market, taxes... I live in capitalism, so, I do allllll this things, but I would like to live in a perfect world where money don't exist. A world where you don't work to YOU grow up, but you work to the society you live grow up. I know it's utopic and it'll never happen, but the idea is good.

PS: This perfect world is far from be the socialism, comunism, facism, capitalism or any other government or economical system that exists or existed.
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