Removal of `rm

steve · 7th January 2003, 03:20

I just want everyone to know that after a lot of thought and consideration, I've come to the the conclusion that rm` and any of his other alias' are no longer welcome in the Winamp Forums.

I personally have had several long discussions with him regarding his behavior and about his beliefs and why he's trying to do what he's trying to do. He believed he was fighting for a cause, one greater than himself. He should have known better than to relentlessly break the rules in hopes of change.

He clearly does not have respect for any of the mods, any of the staff, or the other people within these forums because his behavior has been a great disservice. His destructive nature to bring about change is not appreciated and will no longer be tolerated.

At this point, I have personally taken the steps to delete all his known aliases and have asked all the moderators to delete any posts that he may contribute going forward.

He has complained on many occasions that these forums are not what they once were. His behavior is nothing more than contributing to that problem. Any member who thinks that any kind of disruptive behavior will be tolerated, you are wrong and you too will be removed from these forums.

It is one thing to speak your mind, it's another to test our patience and break our rules. These forums will not be a playground for those who wish to break it's laws. We welcome the opinions and criticisms of any member, but unruly posts geared at up heave will be removed.

Thank you.

-s

P.S. Those of you who feel that this is unjust and out of line, you're welcome to ask for your accounts to be removed. These forums are a privilege, not a right.

pixiefied · 7th January 2003, 03:26

uh oh

Gonzotek · 7th January 2003, 03:27

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

AjStone · 7th January 2003, 03:27

The issue is a controversial one, but I agree. This is what Administrators are for.

Job well done.

Aero Zeppelin · 7th January 2003, 03:27

sit back and watch the discussion unfold

.........

it will be sad to see rm/hester's funniness go, and the good times too.

but I completely agree with -s.

InvisableMan · 7th January 2003, 03:29

the end of an era. have a nice life radioactive man, 'rm, and hestermofet.

[edit]

i forgot to add:

FINALLY.

[/edit]

duet maxwell · 7th January 2003, 03:34

i never thought the day would come when rm would actualy be sent away for real o_O;

dollerspark · 7th January 2003, 03:36

He got what he deserved. I wasn't ever a huge fan of his anyway.

Good job, steve.

ctn|chrisw · 7th January 2003, 03:37

Ill mimic iman's FINALLY

RanDom_ErrOr · 7th January 2003, 03:38

quick question, what did he do exactly to deserve being banned and erased? im not sure weather to be happy or happy...

oh well...

steve · 7th January 2003, 03:39

Arin,

If you read this, which I'm sure you will. Don't bother creating any new accounts either, I have instructed all the mods to ban you on site and remove any new posts you add.

-s

steve · 7th January 2003, 03:46

It was not any one thing he did. He continued to test the system and taunt the mods. Everyone agrees that he got more chances than anyone to redeem themselves, he chose not to.

His actions have consequences, he and everyone who agrees with him will learn the hard way. I refuse to let him be the poster boy for crude and immature members trying to make a point. Enough is enough.

RanDom_ErrOr · 7th January 2003, 03:51

well sometimes u need to test the rules to make new ones. but i guess u learned that...

but i (and maybe others) have a problem with u giving out bans just because they seem to disapprove of how you handled the situation. im not saying u are wrong, but just keep in mind, please use discretion before handing out death sentences.

also, im just pointing out a point, so dont go banning me because i seem to be "deviant".

AjStone · 7th January 2003, 03:52

Amen Steve.

Aero Zeppelin · 7th January 2003, 03:53

Quote:

Originally posted by steve
His actions have consequences, he and everyone who agrees with him will learn the hard way. I refuse to let him be the poster boy for crude and immature members trying to make a point. Enough is enough.

you tell em.

isn't it possible that rm could just create another account from another place, like a library or a friends house? and only use it at other places?

Aeroe · 7th January 2003, 03:53

i was gone for a bit, tell me what i missed.

liquidmotion · 7th January 2003, 03:54

Quote:

Originally posted by steve
These forums are a privilege, not a right.

now i coulda sworn....*goes off to check bill of rights*

whatboy · 7th January 2003, 04:00

another one bites the dust

................WE LOVE YOU STEVE(in a none homosexual kinda way)

InvisableMan · 7th January 2003, 04:05

i dont think steve would mind if it WAS in a homosexual way

*hides*

Gonzotek · 7th January 2003, 04:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Aero Zeppelin
you tell em.

isn't it possible that rm could just create another account from another place, like a library or a friends house? and only use it at other places?

Of course it is. That's life. If he doesn't misbehave that incarnation might not be banned, but what fun would it be for him then?

-=Gonzotek=-

7th January 2003, 04:15

It appears anyone who shows more than an ounce of intelligence or an inch of a spine is leaving this place, one way or the other. Bop, papadoc, watadoo, Chev, rm' and others have left or are extremely unhappy. I'm glad administration made a decision. It shows the direction they want these forums to take.

Have fun chatting about Dragon Ball Z kids. This old man is packing up and leaving. It was fun for 2 1/2 years, and I'll miss many of you. But this is the final straw.

Bye!

AjStone · 7th January 2003, 04:16

meaisl8again · 7th January 2003, 04:18

Randman, I'll miss your wisdom a bunch. You brought numerous smiles to my face. I'm sorry you're gone.

Lots of love,
Mea

InvisableMan · 7th January 2003, 04:18

Bye randman, it's been fun.

RanDom_ErrOr · 7th January 2003, 04:22

well see, im not the only one who is ... disappointed.

Orgone_Man · 7th January 2003, 04:24

Does anyone know of a forum that is like what this place was when rm and bop were around? Holy Jeez, these turns of events have actually bummed me out. I fear that this forum will now turn into thread after thread of bland, unimaginative ramblings and whinings. It seems more and more difficult these days to have an intelligent conversation with another sentient being.

griffinn · 7th January 2003, 04:26

Though unpleasant, perhaps this is the only way we can maintain cohesion in the forums.

Drastic actions result in drastic reactions. Moderation is the key, whatever you're fighting for.

Aeroe · 7th January 2003, 04:28

i dunno, peachy? one day SLK disappeared... after that it became trendy to have your mug on a milk carton.

i really don't remember rm' doing anything, but i disappear for a few weeks at times. (hi, back?) i just found out bop is MIA too. i don't remember if i liked him or not...

i'm sure everyone missed Aly though.

hgnis · 7th January 2003, 04:31

captain my captain.

steve · 7th January 2003, 04:34

Just a couple of comments. I for one am extremely concerned with ban happiness. I don't want members being banned for that which they should not be. However, Arin's behavior has gone unchecked FAR to long.

These forums will NOT be a haven for people looking to make trouble. If you have something to say, you should say it. Be reasonable, use common sense.

I'll be damned if I will allow a couple of bad members corrupt the spirit of this place.

steve · 7th January 2003, 04:38

Also, I keep hearing how things were so different when watadoo was around. You know what, things are what you make of them. Just because you're longing for better times doesn't give you an excuse to wreak havoc. These forums are a reflection of every contribution made to them, good or bad.

It's up to each and every one of you to make this a better place. If you see someone misbehaving or making trouble, tell them that their contributions are not appreciated and to go elsewhere. Notify a moderator and have them take action.

Each of you have a responsibility and a means to make these forums a better place.

liquidmotion · 7th January 2003, 04:39

*tear*

Words of wisdom.

InvisableMan · 7th January 2003, 04:44

wisdom? or blatant common sense.

stttafffy · 7th January 2003, 04:47

i thought it was about time, he was pushing the envelope for too long. i will miss the old radioactive man, though. and randman, you'er the best dirty loser around! even if you are old i dont want to see you go. thats a shame.

InvisableMan · 7th January 2003, 05:02

randman will be back, deep down he loves our antics too much.

meaisl8again · 7th January 2003, 05:06

I personally hope so...

mc^^^^ · 7th January 2003, 05:15

agree with ya steve

"his beliefs and why he's trying to do what he's trying to do. He believed he was fighting for a cause, one greater than himself."
this isnt some new era of online cult is it?

insomniac · 7th January 2003, 05:22

Well, I don't totally agree with your decision, but I respect it. RM was a very intelligent person, and one of the reasons I stayed at this board. His good acts outweighed his bad acts 100 fold.

It is because of this that I won't be visiting these forums half as much. I like these forums, but like randman, this was the last straw. I'll see ya guys. It's been a fun year.

P.S. I think 'rm should at least be able to make a goodbye thread for the legacy he has had. He has been one of the cornerstones of General Discussions, and the entire forums.

WolfieD · 7th January 2003, 05:42

Quote:

Originally posted by InvisableMan
randman will be back, deep down he loves our antics too much.

Somehow I doubt it.

Oh. yeah. Uhm... Yeah.

edited because either ive grown a set, or the codine is kicking in, or something. is the fact that once well known and recognized/respected people are leaving, and have been leaving, in droves, not clue enough that something is wrong?

i couldnt honestly care any less for this place [gen d]. its filled with stupidity, boring redux's of topics discussed millions of times over by members of the past, and when a few people try to bring that to the attention of the owners/moderators, they get shrugged off as if theyre the ones who are getting old and onery. so radioactive man decides to help it out a bit. let a few more people in on the subject than usual. sure, it occured by breaking multitudes of rules, but it got your attention, didnt it? it raised one hell of a shit storm, didnt it? it worked.

people leave, yeah. facts of life. but when i "came back" a month or two ago, and the only people i recognized were the huffy mods and the ignorant clownfucks of yesteryear, i grew depressed. there were maybe 2 or 3 people who i actually felt I could still respect as I did back in the day. this isnt the WA Forums of old, and it never will be again, thanks to your actions.

colin, over and out.

Some1 · 7th January 2003, 06:03

poor rm'...you're going to ban me now because I feel sympathy for him?

7th January 2003, 03:20	#1
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	Removal of `rm I just want everyone to know that after a lot of thought and consideration, I've come to the the conclusion that rm` and any of his other alias' are no longer welcome in the Winamp Forums. I personally have had several long discussions with him regarding his behavior and about his beliefs and why he's trying to do what he's trying to do. He believed he was fighting for a cause, one greater than himself. He should have known better than to relentlessly break the rules in hopes of change. He clearly does not have respect for any of the mods, any of the staff, or the other people within these forums because his behavior has been a great disservice. His destructive nature to bring about change is not appreciated and will no longer be tolerated. At this point, I have personally taken the steps to delete all his known aliases and have asked all the moderators to delete any posts that he may contribute going forward. He has complained on many occasions that these forums are not what they once were. His behavior is nothing more than contributing to that problem. Any member who thinks that any kind of disruptive behavior will be tolerated, you are wrong and you too will be removed from these forums. It is one thing to speak your mind, it's another to test our patience and break our rules. These forums will not be a playground for those who wish to break it's laws. We welcome the opinions and criticisms of any member, but unruly posts geared at up heave will be removed. Thank you. -s P.S. Those of you who feel that this is unjust and out of line, you're welcome to ask for your accounts to be removed. These forums are a privilege, not a right. Steve Gedikian Ex Llama Wrangler

7th January 2003, 03:26	#2
pixiefied Mother Trucker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in the forest Posts: 3,493	uh oh "Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing.... It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...." - Mr.Jones

7th January 2003, 03:27	#3
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	So long, and thanks for all the fish. I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

7th January 2003, 03:27	#5
Aero Zeppelin Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: AjStone's Forums Posts: 928	sit back and watch the discussion unfold......... it will be sad to see rm/hester's funniness go, and the good times too. but I completely agree with -s. Legalize It. Liberate It. Free The People of the United States. Free The Herbs Of The World!

7th January 2003, 03:34	#7
duet maxwell Major Dudette Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boredom Ville Posts: 1,039	i never thought the day would come when rm would actualy be sent away for real o_O; <3

7th January 2003, 03:27	#4
AjStone Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 993	The issue is a controversial one, but I agree. This is what Administrators are for. Job well done.

7th January 2003, 03:29	#6
InvisableMan Ninja Master! (Forum King) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,325	the end of an era. have a nice life radioactive man, 'rm, and hestermofet. [edit] i forgot to add: FINALLY. [/edit]

7th January 2003, 03:36	#8
dollerspark Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wh!te Tr@sh Hell (AZ) Posts: 708	He got what he deserved. I wasn't ever a huge fan of his anyway. Good job, steve. "We are fortunate: we are alive; we are powerful; the welfare of our civilization and our species is in our hands. If we do not speak for Earth, who will? If we are not committed to our own survival, who will be?" -Carl Sagan

7th January 2003, 03:37	#9
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,309	Ill mimic iman's FINALLY

7th January 2003, 03:38	#10
RanDom_ErrOr Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The loony bin, just outside of nutsville,USA. I would visit you, but my room is padded and i cant get out... Posts: 947	quick question, what did he do exactly to deserve being banned and erased? im not sure weather to be happy or happy... oh well...

7th January 2003, 03:39	#11
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	Arin, If you read this, which I'm sure you will. Don't bother creating any new accounts either, I have instructed all the mods to ban you on site and remove any new posts you add. -s Steve Gedikian Ex Llama Wrangler

7th January 2003, 03:46	#12
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	It was not any one thing he did. He continued to test the system and taunt the mods. Everyone agrees that he got more chances than anyone to redeem themselves, he chose not to. His actions have consequences, he and everyone who agrees with him will learn the hard way. I refuse to let him be the poster boy for crude and immature members trying to make a point. Enough is enough. Steve Gedikian Ex Llama Wrangler

7th January 2003, 03:51	#13
RanDom_ErrOr Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The loony bin, just outside of nutsville,USA. I would visit you, but my room is padded and i cant get out... Posts: 947	well sometimes u need to test the rules to make new ones. but i guess u learned that... but i (and maybe others) have a problem with u giving out bans just because they seem to disapprove of how you handled the situation. im not saying u are wrong, but just keep in mind, please use discretion before handing out death sentences. also, im just pointing out a point, so dont go banning me because i seem to be "deviant".

7th January 2003, 03:52	#14
AjStone Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 993	Amen Steve.

7th January 2003, 03:53	#16
Aeroe Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Assembly Hall Posts: 1,446	i was gone for a bit, tell me what i missed. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

7th January 2003, 04:00	#18
whatboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Miami,Fl Post : 2392 Posts: 470	another one bites the dust ................WE LOVE YOU STEVE(in a none homosexual kinda way)

7th January 2003, 04:05	#19
InvisableMan Ninja Master! (Forum King) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,325	i dont think steve would mind if it WAS in a homosexual way hides

7th January 2003, 04:15	#21
randman Guest Posts: n/a	It appears anyone who shows more than an ounce of intelligence or an inch of a spine is leaving this place, one way or the other. Bop, papadoc, watadoo, Chev, rm' and others have left or are extremely unhappy. I'm glad administration made a decision. It shows the direction they want these forums to take. Have fun chatting about Dragon Ball Z kids. This old man is packing up and leaving. It was fun for 2 1/2 years, and I'll miss many of you. But this is the final straw. Bye!

7th January 2003, 04:16	#22
AjStone Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 993

7th January 2003, 04:18	#23
meaisl8again Goober (Major Dudette) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Mexico, baby :) Posts: 697	Randman, I'll miss your wisdom a bunch. You brought numerous smiles to my face. I'm sorry you're gone. Lots of love, Mea A foolproof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then chip away anything that doesn't look like an elephant.

7th January 2003, 04:22	#25
RanDom_ErrOr Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The loony bin, just outside of nutsville,USA. I would visit you, but my room is padded and i cant get out... Posts: 947	well see, im not the only one who is ... disappointed.

7th January 2003, 04:24	#26
Orgone_Man Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 1,235	Does anyone know of a forum that is like what this place was when rm and bop were around? Holy Jeez, these turns of events have actually bummed me out. I fear that this forum will now turn into thread after thread of bland, unimaginative ramblings and whinings. It seems more and more difficult these days to have an intelligent conversation with another sentient being.

7th January 2003, 04:26	#27
griffinn Court Jester (Forum King) Join Date: May 2000 Location: Your local toystore Posts: 3,502	Though unpleasant, perhaps this is the only way we can maintain cohesion in the forums. Drastic actions result in drastic reactions. Moderation is the key, whatever you're fighting for. The smiley slot machine! \| Quotable Blog

7th January 2003, 04:28	#28
Aeroe Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Assembly Hall Posts: 1,446	i dunno, peachy? one day SLK disappeared... after that it became trendy to have your mug on a milk carton. i really don't remember rm' doing anything, but i disappear for a few weeks at times. (hi, back?) i just found out bop is MIA too. i don't remember if i liked him or not... i'm sure everyone missed Aly though. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

7th January 2003, 04:31	#29
hgnis Hobbit Humper Forum King Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: banned camp Posts: 4,098	captain my captain. I am so important I feel the need to let it be known like a liberal discovering the internets for the first time. Uh hur hur hur. I also wash myself with a rag on a stick. Reality bites <3

7th January 2003, 04:34	#30
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	Just a couple of comments. I for one am extremely concerned with ban happiness. I don't want members being banned for that which they should not be. However, Arin's behavior has gone unchecked FAR to long. These forums will NOT be a haven for people looking to make trouble. If you have something to say, you should say it. Be reasonable, use common sense. I'll be damned if I will allow a couple of bad members corrupt the spirit of this place. Steve Gedikian Ex Llama Wrangler

7th January 2003, 04:38	#31
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	Also, I keep hearing how things were so different when watadoo was around. You know what, things are what you make of them. Just because you're longing for better times doesn't give you an excuse to wreak havoc. These forums are a reflection of every contribution made to them, good or bad. It's up to each and every one of you to make this a better place. If you see someone misbehaving or making trouble, tell them that their contributions are not appreciated and to go elsewhere. Notify a moderator and have them take action. Each of you have a responsibility and a means to make these forums a better place. Steve Gedikian Ex Llama Wrangler

7th January 2003, 04:39	#32
liquidmotion Smokes Two Joints Beta Team Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SFBA Posts: 3,680	tear Words of wisdom. For a good time: shup \| stashbox \| my homepage

7th January 2003, 04:44	#33
InvisableMan Ninja Master! (Forum King) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,325	wisdom? or blatant common sense.

7th January 2003, 04:47	#34
stttafffy Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the ether Posts: 1,059	i thought it was about time, he was pushing the envelope for too long. i will miss the old radioactive man, though. and randman, you'er the best dirty loser around! even if you are old i dont want to see you go. thats a shame. In space no one can hear you scream.

7th January 2003, 05:02	#35
InvisableMan Ninja Master! (Forum King) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,325	randman will be back, deep down he loves our antics too much.

7th January 2003, 05:06	#36
meaisl8again Goober (Major Dudette) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Mexico, baby :) Posts: 697	I personally hope so... A foolproof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then chip away anything that doesn't look like an elephant.

7th January 2003, 05:15	#37
mc^^^^ Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Perth, Australia MSN: mcbriar@ii.net Posts: All your posts are belong to me!!!! Posts: 2,607	agree with ya steve "his beliefs and why he's trying to do what he's trying to do. He believed he was fighting for a cause, one greater than himself." this isnt some new era of online cult is it?

7th January 2003, 05:22	#38
insomniac Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 58,409,042 Posts: 1,614	Well, I don't totally agree with your decision, but I respect it. RM was a very intelligent person, and one of the reasons I stayed at this board. His good acts outweighed his bad acts 100 fold. It is because of this that I won't be visiting these forums half as much. I like these forums, but like randman, this was the last straw. I'll see ya guys. It's been a fun year. P.S. I think 'rm should at least be able to make a goodbye thread for the legacy he has had. He has been one of the cornerstones of General Discussions, and the entire forums.

7th January 2003, 06:03	#40
Some1 Forum King Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 14th Street Posts: (-1)^ï¿½ Posts: 2,236	poor rm'...you're going to ban me now because I feel sympathy for him? some1 grew up, published a book about being young and stupid, got married, and moved to Australia.