Old 18th February 2003, 12:57   #1
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Pictures

We organized a wonderfull Goa Party last WE
I thought i'm gonna post the pictures of my AVS-Projections here so you can all see 'em.





We had a 2400 Ansi Lumen Beamer, so it was quite impressive.

If you want to see the other Partypics look here
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Old 18th February 2003, 13:59   #2
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SWEET ! I await the day when i`ll be able to project presets on a wall...Did you know the organisers or what ?
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Old 18th February 2003, 15:11   #3
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Ich glaube daß es ein groovy party war .
(so much for my crappy German)

Nice pics, someone should make 3D SSC's out of those wireframe objects hanging there... any on-party reactions to AVS?

Oh and judging by the amount of people rolling and smoking, I think the air in there must've smelled pretty spicey

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Ich habe gehoert dass es ein sehr groovy party war.

Looks nice. Not many AVS pics though. Try taking a few more next time.
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Old 19th February 2003, 05:48   #5
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@ Phaze:
Organiser = me

@ UnConeD:
I already tryed to rebuilt those Stringart Objects but i only got a
2D Preset out of it - pretty nice tough. I attached it maybe you
can add a third dimension. What concernes the On-Party Reactions,
Translated Quote: "DAMN COOL!!!"

@ Anubis:
there are more Pics to come from this Party To give your hungry
eyes some more food, here are the Projection-Pics from the other
Party's we organized / took part at:

















And here the LINK if you want to see the rest of the Partypics
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Old 19th February 2003, 05:53   #6
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Nice pictures. Looks like a real nice projector.
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Old 19th February 2003, 06:17   #7
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Yeah how about this one ?

Would be a nice Present for my Birthday...
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Old 19th February 2003, 06:59   #9
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Yeah, super high res, but who is insane enough to run AVS at 1920 x 1080???

As far as i experienced it, Brightness is all that counts.
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Old 19th February 2003, 09:43   #10
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That preset is pretty cool.

Stoke me a clipper. I'll be back for Christmas.

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Old 19th February 2003, 10:42   #11
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magix: did you publish your presets somewhere? screenshots dont say much
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Old 19th February 2003, 12:49   #12
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No, i havn't puplished any packs.

The thing is, as i do VJing with a Freeware Programm, i kept most of my works to myself to prevent someone copying my set, which could easily be done if i published My Presets and my selfmade VJ-program.

I dont know, maybe it's a Childish way to think about it, but i've seen many guys playing randomly downloaded stuff from UnConeD and others and they keep calling themselves VJ's.

I would never dare to use someone elses Presets anyway.

Let's see, i'm gonna check my Stuff and make a Pack, lets say about 20 Presets for the Community in the Forums, i dont think any of you is gonna abuse it.

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Old 19th February 2003, 14:58   #13
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I would never dare to use someone elses Presets anyway.
what other purpose do published presets have than getting played?
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Old 19th February 2003, 19:59   #14
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Dude...In the summer im coming to germany I propose a meeting and a party!
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Old 19th February 2003, 20:15   #15
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Most of us here would like for you to use our presets at parties. As long as we get some recognition and it isn't passed off as your own, we would love to have you show our stuff. And if you posts pictures of our presets and the reactions people have, nearly everyone will be happy.
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Old 19th February 2003, 20:54   #16
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"Extremely high picture brightness of 7700 ANSI lumens"

farken oath! Thats ridiculously powerful shit man... thats a $30,000
projector (at least) in Australia. Wish I had those toys!!!

By the way magic - whats polymorph?
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Old 20th February 2003, 05:39   #17
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what other purpose do published presets have than getting played?
No, that's not the point. Of course everyone should use published presets. But as i see it, this should be not the case when you want to do VJing with them (unless you give credits to the author which nearly no VJ does ).

Example: Legohead (sorry i had to use someone) downloads a load of presets, takes is PC to a Party turns it on, leans back and gets paid afterwards.

I just think thats not fair because he has'nt even done a real VJing - and unfortunately most of the so called VJ's that i know work exactly this way.

In my opinion, the set of Presets and the way you arrange them according to music has to be an unit.

So you gotta know:
- Your set in detail (how the presets look like and behave)
- Your DJ's set and the music he plays to react properly
- Your tools (in my case AVS and Hotlist for VJing)

So far for my Point of View. The Pack is still to come...


@Anubis i alraedy knew that but the other case is that i try to differ from the other "VJ's" by using only my presets. But if the Day comes when i run out of ideas, i'll think back what you said...


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So you're coming the long way from Mordor just to party with us?Yeah!


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By the way magic - whats polymorph?
Polymorph is a Forum from many Underground Websites in Leipzig (the city where i live). Most Members are crazy guys just like me. Btw, thats where i took the extraordinary smilies from that i use.


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Im coming to work at an ice machine factory."Work" lets say because im 15 and my parents know the owner and just want to get rid of me I`ll take a CD with all the presets i have and try to work some there(if i find a computer).Anyway u think i`ll pay u a visit.Where is Leipzig ? Im going to southwest germany.
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So and now, as promised, my (very first!) AVS-Pack release

After all 40 Presets of my best Stuff.
Unfortunately i couldnt add my latest ones (forgot them at home) and i also had to leave out some very cool ones because they use very large avi's and bmp's. Nevertheless it' pretty good for a first Pack

And here are the APE's you'll need:

channelshift
amoeba
amoeba3d
flame
flock
fyrewurx
metaballs3d
screenreverse

Have Fun
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We've had a few discussions about it, and almost everyone agreed that if you show their presets at a party, they'd love you for it.

Most preset authors aren't VJ's and don't have powerful beamers, so more exposure is better .

Last big party I was at used some sort of Geiss/Milkdrop clone (I don't think it was Milkdrop itself, I didn't recognize any presets), Wildtangent dancing babes, video-loop and a live feed of the audience.

I've also observed people's reactions to visuals at parties. While Wildtangent visualisers usually capture people's attention at first, they get boring quickly. After all, at a rave, there are dancing people everywhere, and usually wildtangent dancers are not in perfect sync anyway.

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We've had a few discussions about it, and almost everyone agreed that if you show their presets at a party, they'd love you for it.
I even think we had a talk about that hlf a year ago, but i'm too lazy to search it.

Have you already had a look at my Pack? Maybe you could propose some presets that would fit my Style...


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Old 20th February 2003, 21:03   #22
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Rationalise it this way - how many DJ's have told you who's song they are playing???????
A VJ is the same - only visual. However if its one thing I've learn't - theres alot more to VJing than chucking on a few presets (like magic says).

At the end of the day it has to have meaning, has to flow, has to take the viewer somewhere. A VJ has a hard job because he has to match the musics mood (which can be quite hard).

This weekend Im starting out with some OPENGL picture candy, then Im doing a kaleidascope set (using picture loader for more interesting textures) because its MUSHROOM season - and the crowds gonna go fkn sick at seeing morphing crazy shit.
Then I might do a completely different set when the morning DJ's come on and get into some psycadellic/dimensional stuff.
Making presets is one thing - making it work is an entirely different ball game.
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Rationalise it this way - how many DJ's have told you who's song they are playing???????
A VJ is the same - only visual. However if its one thing I've learn't - theres alot more to VJing than chucking on a few presets (like magic says).
Several DJ's have, as a matter of fact. Many will announce what song they are playing(at least sometimes). VJ'ing is a lot different, though, because a large population of people seeing them would assume that the VJ made them. Very, very few people would recognize AVS presets, and most don't know what AVS is. just a title AVS that you play at the beginning and end of the party that mentions those whose presets you are using. I have heard about instances of VJ's taking credit for presets that aren't theirs. As long as you don't do this I don't mind that much, but I would like to have recognition(not that you'd use any of mine).
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Thats fair. I wouldn't think much of a vj who 'assorts' other peoples work. Although I do use remixes which is ok (as defined by copyright I can modify content by 25% and it becomes my intellectual property - how do you quantify 25%..hmmmmm...).

But then again, at the end of the day no-one really cares. VJ's are usually the unsung heros.
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VJ's are usually the unsung heros.
singing: a VJ's life is a hard life...


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singing: a VJ's life is a hard life...
True.

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Old 23rd February 2003, 21:01   #27
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I hate people who hate AVS!

Magic.X: It's great projecting AVS presets on the wall, but you need to have a fast pc for high res. My school has got a p4 2ghz pc and I begged my principal to project some AVS prests for the Annual day before the actual entertainment programme, but she just wouldnt listen.
I hate people who hate AVS
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Re: I hate people who hate AVS!

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you need to have a fast pc for high res
Well, you can do well with a middle class PC!
I'm using a 1 Ghz Athlon @ 400*300 res and it's fine because the Beamer does a lot of smoothing for you.


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You only need to output @ 800X600 - even on xga projectors it doesn't make too much difference (whos gonna notice). Upgrade your ram (higher fsb=more juice), close background apps, set thread priority to high, shrink screen hight to 80% (if all else fails), use pixel doubling and 32 bit colour modes. If you want that extra bit of speed reinstall windows and then install winamp first. 2ghz is plenty.
Most of my preset peak out at about 30fps now (anything above 24fps is pretty much seamless).
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