Old 31st March 2003, 06:54   #1
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Some .ogg files won't play

I dont know if this is a bug of winamp or of the ogg vorbis plugin, but some .ogg files cannot be played. This error only occured when trying to play files that are made with "oggenc.exe" (this is the encoder offered on the vorbis page). I'm using the beta 2 2.9.

I know that the ogg files are correct because I played them with the old Winamp-version. You cant even add these files to the playlist.

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Celeron 466, 256 RAM, WinXP, Creative Soundblaster PCI.

Hopin' that this bug will be killed soon :-)

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Old 31st March 2003, 06:57   #2
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Did you manualy encode them from the command line?
Use a program that used oggenc (EAC, CDex, a front end)?
Did you put ID3 tags in them (That's bad).
What version of the Vorbis plug-in do you have?

Can't add them to the playlist, explain more.
Do they have the proper .ogg extension?
etc...
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Old 31st March 2003, 09:13   #3
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I used the encoder with EAC, the files contain ID3 tags. The in_vorbis.dll is version 1.31.

The files have the extension .ogg, further details:
length : 4:00
average bitrate : 146 kbps
file size : 4,400,380 bytes
nominal bitrate : 160 kbps
channels : 2
sampling rate: 44100 Hz
serial number: 13931
version : 0
vendor :
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717

DESCRIPTION=Exact Audio Copy
title=Open Road Son
artist=Eve 6
..and so on..

When I drag the files into the playlist only the number of the track appears without text, when clicking on the entry Winamp goes to the next track.

I just copied the in_vorbis 1.2 b7 into the plugin directory and it works, I assume that the problem is the vorbis plugin.

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Old 31st March 2003, 09:16   #4
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>> the files contain ID3 tags

The problem is not the plug-in. The files are corrupt. ogg Vorbis DOES NOT support ID3 tags. Adding ID3 tags to a ogg vorbis file does corrupt it. Remove them.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~w.speek/tag.htm
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Old 31st March 2003, 09:45   #5
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Thanks a lot,

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Old 3rd April 2003, 02:40   #6
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yeah, this is bad. I had a whole vorbis album with id3 tags that refused to play. Timmy gave me some assistance, then I saw this thread, ran tag.exe --remove *.*, and now it works. thanks for the utility, Sawg.
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Old 6th April 2003, 20:46   #7
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Thanks a lot, sawg and all you others. Great post.

However, is it the EAC that is the "bad guy" here? Does any of you know if it is possible to disable this id-finction in EAC, but still keep the vorbis-tag-naming=
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Old 6th April 2003, 20:57   #8
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Just disable adding ID3 tags all together in EAC, it will still add the Vorbis Comments.
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Old 19th April 2003, 12:16   #9
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But it worked in winamp 2.8x, why not in 2.9x ?
ok, ill remove those tags...
thx for all
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Old 19th April 2003, 19:07   #10
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Because the decoder in 2.8X was wrong. This is recomended implementation by Xiph.
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Old 5th December 2003, 16:50   #11
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bloody hell!

I must have at least a GB of files I encoded this way !!! Argh, at least you guys helped me out, was pulling my hair out over this one.
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Old 5th December 2003, 19:48   #12
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crud

More like 5 gigs of files affected! I just did a remove all tags on practically my entire MP3 directory, would have taken too long the other way. It still took a few hours this way.

I don't know who's to blame, EAC or Winamp, since they both screwed up.
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Old 5th December 2003, 20:08   #13
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Winamp is following the standard...

tag.exe --recursive --removeid3v2 *.ogg
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Old 5th December 2003, 21:02   #14
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whoops sorry, I meant to say I encoded these back in the 2.8? days when they had the ogg codec all wrong. My files used to play back then, so thinking nothing was wrong I went ahead and did my whole collection.

Sorry to keep posting, but TAG.exe has some problems with weird file characters, like Japanese song names. It just stalls and won't remove the tag. Anyway to get around this?

Nevermind, it was freezing on ogg files with foreign names, but the ogg files already had the tags removed. Works fine on foreign file names that still have the wrong tags.

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