Winamp 2 Skin Needed

[Knux]

If anyone here can help me out i need 2 winamp to skins for my 2 sites. Could anyone help me out. I dont need nething huge or good just need them to be pretty good, and good to look at. Can anyone help me out?

Msn- Webmaster@adept-art.com

Aim- KnuxOwnsAeox

Contact me if yoru interested. Thanks
Ryan

[Xerxes]

You won't get anywhere here without first dangling a suitable carrot.

Its just the way the world works.

[dimichan]

And it might help if you provided links to said sites... people want anh idea of what would be expected, what they'd be making something for and all

[Knux]

Its just something ez, i got no idea what to expect, just wanted something pretty ez, i just dont no how to do it. Why would they need to see the sites if they arent doing it. If they want to do it contact me and i would give hem all the info. Like the money id give to them for each and stuf..

[Wildrose-Wally]

Why the secrecy?

http://www.adept-art.com

[Knux]

LoL, you almost had it. Thats one of the 3. But i dont want that one to have a winamp skin.

[StillWater]

just give the links. I'll tell you why we would want to see the sites: Since it seems we would be doing it for free, and since winamp skins take a lot of time to make, no one will do it unless they happen to think that they'd enjoy it. If someone sees your site and decides that they like the look of the site, and would enjoy making a skin that matches - or if seeing the site gives them a few good ideas for the skin, then they'll be much more likely to say yes to the whole thing.

[dimichan]

Yup - people are much more likely to donate 20-80 hours or so of their time if they get a looksee first and either it's 1) an interest they already have, like a musically-oriented, art-oriented, or even a particular hobby they are already interested in and want to see good advertising and treatment for, or 2) the site itself and idea behind it is something that peaks the interest/brings ideas to mind we want to get down "on paper". Anyone interested could contact you for specific logos or images you wanted included, easy enough

[Knux]

Who said i want paying?

[StillWater]

If you want to be taken seriously, then stop being so ambigous. Your ambiguity only makes you sound like you don't really know what you want yourself.

What does the site look like?
What is/are the predominant theme/s of the site?
What is it about your site that you most want represented/accentuated/highlighted by the skin?
What else do you expect from your skin?
Do you wish for someone to make the complete skin/s, or just help you make your own?
If you're paying, what are you paying?
Are your sites up and running?
If not, when will they be?
When do you want these skins made by?



Personally, I've been thinking of making a website skin for a while, because I made one once, and found it quite easy, fun, and hence satisfying. But I, for one, won't bother following this up until I see less ambiguity and dicking around.

[Knux]

Ok see i like it up to the ppl. It doenst need to look like my site, just need the colors. A little blue, and Whites,grays, little black. I can pay in nething money, hosting, space, domains, subdomains. Thats why i left it open. I dont have a set date made by. and my sites running.


If you dont want that. I can do gfx damn fine my self. If someone would just help me do the skinning part, i dont understand it and i dont understand that help crap on the site.

[StillWater]

So, are you fine with someone making the entire skin, or do you want to do some/all of the graphics yourself?

As for learning how to do the skinning part, it's very easy.

[Mr_007]

Please first get authorizated of all nice skinner!

[Knux]

I just dont understand skinning, it seems like i keep messing up on shit. cuz it doesnt work together.

[StillWater]

So I repeat: Do you want someone to show you how to do it properly and help you with it, or do you want somebody to make the whole thing themselves?

By the way, what's the friggin' point in making a website, which is going to be available to people over the entire globe, when you're so secretive that you don't even want the people who would potentially be making a skin for it to see it?

[Knux]

I never said they couldnt see it, but no1 here is interested or they would have added my contacts. WHats the big deal of that? If you were interested you would probly added me, i would show you the site. but nvm, i got someone from a good cominuty called devart, im sure uve heard of it, atleast the ppl thre are not dicks like u stillwater. Im not exactly sure what iwant right now so thats why its all not clear.

[xenosomething]

Originally posted by Knux
WHats the big deal of that? If you were interested you would probly added me, i would show you the site.

how could anyone be interested in the first place when we dont even know what the site looks like?..especially if its gonna be for free.

we tried to help, and if you dont want it then fine, but there is no need for name calling.

.....and if you think winamp has more "dicks" then devart, then you are completely blind my friend.

[StillWater]

Originally posted by Knux
I never said they couldnt see it, but no1 here is interested or they would have added my contacts. WHats the big deal of that? If you were interested you would probly added me, i would show you the site. but nvm, i got someone from a good cominuty called devart, im sure uve heard of it, atleast the ppl thre are not dicks like u stillwater. Im not exactly sure what iwant right now so thats why its all not clear.

The point is that if you want someone to do you a favour, and you approach it in as half-assed and disorganised manner as you did, you make yourself look like some kid that doesn't know what he's talking about nor what he wants. If, after repeated requests and enquiries, you still can't be bothered to clarify what you are actually asking, for the people you are asking it of, no one is going to bother to go out of their way to try and find out themselves. Which is why no one from here bothered.

I'm a dick because I tried to squeeze all the relevant information out of you? How the hell is anyone going to know if they're interested if they have no idea what you're asking of them? I mean, you never ended up even telling us whether you wanted us to make a skin or to teach you how to skin - two completely different things. Instead, you expected us to come running to you begging to find out just what sort of favour it was that we were going to have the privelege of doing for you. Come off it.

[Knux]

How is doing something for 180$ a favor and non the less a buisness thing. Of course noone is going to want to do it to a site they never seen. But half or more of winamp skins are just abstract, not for a site or anything but have a reason, you cant really see it but you just go with the flow. So just think of it as something for fun. Also, devarts ppl are awesome. You just need to establish respect in your artgroup then noone will give you beef.

[flatmatt]

Up until your last post, the thread has basically gone like, "Hi, I'd like someone to make two skins for me based on my websites. I might be willing to pay somewhere between 1 and 1000 dollars if someone agrees without knowing anything about the websites. For all they know, they could be porn sites and quite illegal for half the members here to even look at, much less make a skin about. Thanks! StillWater's a dick!"

No offense, but you haven't really made the effort to get out any information that people would need to know before even considering making you a skin. Telling how much you're willing to pay in the last post was good, but perhaps it took a bit too much pushing to get even that out of you.

[zwylle]

Originally posted by Knux
How is doing something for 180$ a favor and non the less a buisness thing.

Depends on what hourly rate you are used to get.
If you want to make it appear a little more serious, go together with the host of a skin publishing site, and donate them some money to organize a contest.
That way you would get a couple of skins to collect from.
180$ still sounds a little too low for that.

[StillWater]

The reason I didn't respond - and I'm not trying to offend you, I'm merely telling you the truth - is that you seemed so vague and non-specific about the whole thing, and it was so hard squeezing just the basic information out of you, that I thought there was a reasonable chance that it would be even harder getting any money out of you once the skin was finished. The internet is an uncertain place to do business in at the best of times, so you really should come across in a direct, organised, and lay-your-cards-on-the-table way. A stranger who vaguely mentions that there might be some kind of payment for a task that he describes in an equally vague way definitely won't win much trust with me, and I daresay with many people.

[Knux]

Ok, close the topic, i already have found someone to do it. It was a hosting site, i didnt want ppl to see it because im awaiting its big v.2 arival. I just want alot of things to bring the members in and right now the site is down. Just close topic thx.

[StillWater]

Originally posted by Knux
It was a hosting site, i didnt want ppl to see it because im awaiting its big v.2 arival.

If you'd said that earlier, people probably would have been less reluctant to contact you on their own. Anyway, good luck with your site.